BluRay wins?

That has just confused the hell outta me! :lol:

I'll take it as the laptops are sound enough to buy now! What are the minimum specs I should be looking at? In layman's terms! I know how to use the technology, but how it works I'm completely baffled!

Just go for a decent laptop. At this time, don't bother about it having Cell technology, it's not ready for that yet. ;)

Toshiba are still trying to get more software support. It's damn impressive though.
 
It'll definitely be a viao I'd get, probably got a budget of £600-800...

I'm tempted to get one with Blu-ray..
 
I'm tempted to get one with Blu-ray..

Yes, that would be a sensible move. Within a year from now, I do not see any new PCs being shipped without a BD drive. Get one with a DVI or HDMI out, and you can plug it into your TV, although I've never seen a PC attempt to play a Blu-ray movie, modern ones should be able to cope with it. ;)
 
I sold this guy a PC with a Blu-Ray/HD-DVD player in it the other day. He said he wanted something that will be still relevant and play and do everything in 5-10 years.

I gave him the tip I said "Mate you're looking at an expensive piece of machinery but this bugger will sort you out good and proper"

He was chuffed with his purchase. And Weaste you'll be pleased to know I threw in Microsoft Office for free. Didn't want to rip him off by making him pay for it did I?!
 
People take me for being a PS3 fanboy and anti-Microsoft. Well, part of that is correct, I do have a strong dislike for Microsoft, but that's a different matter.

What it boils down to is that I'm a fan of Cell technology and what it has brought to the table. People actually do not realise how groundbreaking it actually is, and how it will have wide reaching permutations over the computing industry as a whole. The only reason that PS3 comes into this is that it is currently the only consumer centric device that uses it.

For those that are interested, google "Larrabee", or click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larrabee_(GPU)
 
Hmm..It'll be a few weeks/months before I buy so I will do a bit of searching around and research beforehand.
 
id's post-apocalyptic open-world shooter Rage (PC, PS3, 360, Mac) will look worse on Xbox 360 due to the compression needed to fit the game's assets on two DVDs, programmer John Carmack revealed at tonight's QuakeCon keynote.

According to Carmack, the royalty fees to include a third disc in the Xbox 360 version would be so high that it simply isn't a feasible solution, with the programmer hoping for Microsoft to make a concession. He stressed that the issue has nothing to do with the Xbox 360 hardware itself, and is merely a storage problem.

Carmack also noted his belief that neither Doom 4 or Rage will be digitally distributed, as is just isn't looking into it at this point.

During last year's QuakeCon talk, Carmack stated that the PlayStation 3 edition of Rage would ship on a single Blu-ray disc, with the PC and Mac versions likely to arrive in both Blu-ray and DVD form.

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God help FFXIII.
 
I'm just hoping that we'll see a price drop in BluRay discs now. £20-25 quid is to expensive.

I bought Batman Begins a week or two back and it looks incredible.
 
New version/cut and a couple of versions that aren't available on DVD as well.
 
It's hard to imagine now, but when DVD first launched, its success was far from guaranteed. Back in 1996, there were even anti-DVD fanboys, and recently we ran into a rant--sarcastically retitled as "Why DVD would fail"--that struck us as eerily familiar to the current arguments against Blu-ray. Considering that DVD was such a huge success, it's worth looking at exactly how similar the two formats are at this early stage, and what that means for the future of Blu-ray.

1. Consumers aren't willing to rebuy movies

They will be the same tired movies that everyone already owns and will be loathe to buy again. [...] Because the titles available will be ones that people already own, they will naturally sell less than a new release that is still hot from the theaters. This will result in even a bigger cost for companies because the less they sell, the more each feature costs to implement on each title.

Right. Just like nobody repurchased their albums on CD or VHS tapes on DVD. This one seems to get dragged out for every new format and is quickly ignored once it takes off. We're not saying that people will rush to replace their DVDs with Blu-ray discs, but it seems obvious consumers eventually give in and repurchase media if the new format is worthwhile. The only difference we'd note is that well-kept DVDs don't deteriorate after use like VHS tapes did, so perhaps consumers will be somewhat less likely to replace their DVDs that still look as good as the day they bought them.

Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.



2. Not enough movies

All the companies involved with DVD are promising a catalog of 250 titles at the launch with maybe 50 to 100 actually available in the stores in the beginning. [...] And even if they do manage to finish 250 movies in time for the launch, what will those movies be? Top Gun? Rocky?

When any type of new format launches, early adopters are stuck with a pretty limited initial selection. It happened with DVD, and it happened with Blu-ray, which still only has about 650 titles available two years after its release. And we're seeing it all over again with criticism of the selection on online movie services, such as iTunes, Vudu, and the Netflix Player. This argument seems pretty shortsighted overall--if a new format offers a new compelling experience, the content will follow.

Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.



3. Can't record

Consumers will look at DVD and see that it doesn't record. That will instantly arouse suspicions in their mind that if the movies they want to watch are not available on the DVD discs, then the machine will be useless to them and a waste of money.

DVD recorders are old technology now, but when DVD first came out one of the knocks against it was that it didn't record like VHS--which was a killer feature before DVRs became ubiquitous. Blu-ray recorders are available now in Japan, but we haven't seen any signs of them coming to the U.S. in the near future. But the real issue is that Blu-ray recording just doesn't matter as much with high-def DVRs and so many TV series being released on high-quality DVD and Blu-ray sets.

Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray, but less people care.



4. Nobody cares about special features


Another question is, how many consumers actually want and use all the special features that DVD might offer? CD players offer all kinds of special programming and playback options, yet most people never touch these features. A cheap VCR is seen as too intimidating to most Americans. They just want to watch the movie, not select different versions, languages, and such. The LD market has proven that these extra features are desired, but only by a small segment of the population.

This point has been made about Blu-ray right here on CNET, in Executive Editor David Carnoy's Fully Equipped column. While I tend to agree that special features aren't a big draw for DVD or Blu-ray, it tends to be the icing on the cake, rather than the main draw of the format. DVD didn't succeed because of special features--and neither will Blu-ray--but they're a nice extra.

Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.



5. Picture quality isn't that much better

And now we get into the most controversial aspect of the entire DVD debate. Picture quality, or the lack there of. When DVD was first announced, it was claimed to offer D1 Master Tape quality. A short while later, the companies said it was much better than VHS but worse than LD. Now they have swung the other way again and are claiming D1 quality again. Quite simply, this will be impossible on commercially prepared, feature-length films.

It seems insane to argue that DVD isn't a huge leap over VHS in terms of image quality, but it's less crazy than you think. It takes content makers a while to fully understand how to use new technology, which is why many first-run CDs and DVDs are surprisingly mediocre. The same thing happened with Blu-ray--anyone who saw the first version of The Fifth Element on Blu-ray can attest to that. But now that we've seen a steady flow of exceptional looking Blu-ray discs, it's going to be harder to find people who aren't impressed by the image quality of Blu-ray on a big-screen HDTV.

Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.



6. The industry is just greedy

DVD is just a bad idea. It is being forced upon a uncaring and unwanted public and is an inferior product that simply isn't needed or desired. DVD exists only for one reason. Greed. Motion picture studios are always looking for a way to sell the same stuff over and over again and they think DVD is the answer.

More cynical observers might characterize Blu-ray as just the industry's latest attempt to make money on the same movies yet again. But the industry didn't introduce DVD out of the kindness of its heart--it did it to make money--and few people look back on successful formats like DVD and CD as a devious scheme by motion picture studios.

Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.



So, since the same arguments that didn't matter with DVD are now being used against Blu-ray, does that mean Blu-ray is destined to be as successful as DVD? Not quite. The simple fact is that Blu-ray's main draw is that it offers significantly better image quality than DVD, and whether consumers think that's a worthwhile upgrade will make or break the format. All the other arguments essentially don't matter, just like they didn't with DVD.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10013891-1.html
 
London, UK (PRWEB) December 21, 2008 -- Despite the gloomiest of financial forecasts, sales of Blu-ray disc movies are defying the odds and bucking the credit crunch - with record figures reported in the run up to Christmas. And it's not just films flying off the shelves, Blu-ray disc players are also following suit, with a strong upsurge in European sales that is expected to continue into the New Year. In fact, overall sales are predicted to more than triple in 2009, reaching 2.5million units Europe wide (and that figure does not even include the millions of Playstation 3 consoles, with their in-built Blu-ray players, that will be sold over the next few months).

The high definition format, which offers up to six times better picture quality than current standard definition, as well as a superb surround sound experience with its 7.1 channels, is establishing itself in Europe at a rapid rate - far faster than DVD did more than a decade ago. In its first three years, Blu-ray (including PS3 sales) has outsold DVD by about five times over the equivalent period.

British consumers bought 462,500 Blu-ray discs in November, an increase of 165 per cent from October, Figures released in December from the British Video Association (BVA), show that block-buster Hollywood titles such The Dark Knight sold a staggering 513,000 units in one day with Blu-ray disc representing 21 per cent of all discs sold. In France, Blu-ray's share of the optical disc market is expected to double next year to 6 per cent. Across Europe as a whole, over 6.5 million units of software have been sold to date, with year on year growth up 320 per cent.

2008 has been a breakthrough year for Blu-ray, with the format gaining support from the entire Consumer Electronics industry and all Hollywood Movie Studios. Features such as BD-Live mean exciting interactive content is now available on the latest titles, while more and more classic films are being released each week as Blu-ray's back catalogue continues to grow. New advanced BD players by all major manufacturers represent even greater value for money, while the format itself has still not reached its full potential.

"The Blu-ray disc format offers an unparalleled home entertainment experience, something all those involved with this technology have always known," says Jim Bottoms, Managing Director, Corporate Development, at Futuresource. "Once people see the benefits of Blu-ray for themselves, they soon realise the difference it can make. Seeing is believing after all! We fully expect Blu-ray to keep on bucking the current economic trend and continue its rapid growth over the next few months and beyond, stimulated by falling prices and even more bundling deals with large screen TVs."

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And people said Blu-Ray would fail in the wake of a recession.
 
Blu-Ray sales have increased massively in Europe, despite the credit crunch and a world-wide recession.

The article isn't even that long you lazy cnut!
 
Well, the stand-alones have really come down in price to the point where it is now quite tempting to buy. You can get them for less than 200 now, which is about the price my CD separate cost in 1987.
 
Well, the stand-alones have really come down in price to the point where it is now quite tempting to buy. You can get them for less than 200 now, which is about the price my CD separate cost in 1987.

Exactly, and as more people buy them they can reduce the price further still.
 
Just go for a decent laptop. At this time, don't bother about it having Cell technology, it's not ready for that yet. ;)

Toshiba are still trying to get more software support. It's damn impressive though.

I ended up getting an ACER with Blu-Ray, was £200 cheaper and the guy in the shop told me Sony were having problems with their BD drives.

The pictures fantastic, and I wouldn't mind getting a stand alone player soon, but may just wait for the PS3 to have a price drop.

Oh and The Dark Knight would be fantastic on BR.
 
From a store in Belgium apparently...

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Retailer going potty, a mistake, sign of things to come?
 
We were selling our 80gb PS3's at around that price ($618 AUD) with a free game. It's about a $100AUD loss. After Christmas now it's going to be $645 with a game & extra controller.
 
PS2s are now available for A$100 or about 40 quid. For those who care about backward compatibility.