Yes, yes and usually.
BluRay wins?
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Yes, yes and usually.
Oh it is something to marvel at. I wont be separated from my PS3 and 1080p television, i wont, i cant and i never will be able to accept anything less ever again. Its completely destroyed my love for grainy vhs.
Something better than BlueRay will come out in the next five years
If they bring Super HD to market, then it will have to do so as Blu-ray will not have the bandwidth. If they finally just stop fannying around for once, only use Super HD and beyond as a research tool, and let HDTV have a mass market lifespan of at least 15 years then it should suffice. It will be a long time IMO until HD video on demand becomes mass market viable, and even then, a lot of people like hard copies.
it will all eventually be online
long way off over here but korea have started to install a 4.5 GB per second plastic fiber broadband infastructure
that is amazingly quick and alot cheaper and easier to use than glass fiber or copper
long way off over here but korea have started to install a 4.5 GB per second plastic fiber broadband infastructure
that is amazingly quick and alot cheaper and easier to use than glass fiber or copper
You need a situation where everyone has a constant and stable 100Mbps, and then you need data servers outputting that amount of data per customer all of the time. If you have 5000 subscribers in your local area, you would need severs with massive storage capable of pulling data off hard disks and sending it down routed lines at 62GBps. Most people in the UK are lucky to get 4Mbps over DSL.
Yes let's deliberately stagnate the market so that Blu-ray can enjoy some success.
It seems to me that if Sony launched a technology the sole purpose if which was to go around killing small children, you'd be on here singing its praises and telling us why it was the best thing ever.
Stagnate the market for Blu-ray success? It has nothing to do with that, it's about giving the consumer stable choice for a reasonable period of time. Not everyone, in fact the vast majority, cannot afford to be constantly shelling out cash every five years to change their entire set of entertainment electronics devices. If HDTV is not given at least half the life span of the CD, then it will never take off, and if it doesn't take off, then prices will always remain high. What the audio/video industry needs is to take a little time for reflection and let HD technologies as they are now build into a mass market vehicle.
Totally agree.
As do I.
On another note, why do you think that Blu-ray is a Sony technology?
I haven't got one as yet (just bought a flat and got through Christmas, but I think I'll take the plunge when the next GTA comes out - I'm always a sucker for that game.
It is primarily. Sure, eight others were involved but it's Sony's child.
And DVD has been around, what, 12 years? This is the next step up from that. You seem to think that large companies should make a deliberate effort to ensure that HD lasts that long.
I disagree. If better technology comes available, then release it. It's progressive, after all. BluRay/HD-DVD are the current standard, but I bet you 90% of people are still going to be using regular DVDs for at least another three or four years, so just because new techonology appears it doesn't mean regular people have to bankrupt themselves trying to buy it.
If you can't afford it, don't. If enough people can't afford it, then there'll still be a market for them. But to not release newer technology when it develops in order to ensure this status quo is, in my eyes, totally ludicrous.
That'd be pain in the arse. What if they brought out something new every five years? Wouldn't be fair on consumers.
Not bringing out new technology is just as unfair since it's essentially depriving people of a better experience. Using that argument we could all still be listening to cassettes, or even records, because for the consumer it makes more financial sense than upgrading their technologies. The old ones worked fine. I could listen to a song on a cassette, after all, it's just that CDs are better.
It's a trade-off between finance and progress, and I side with progress. Newer technologies don't have to be bought, but if they are they're better, more effective and more enjoyable.
For what it's worth my family can't afford an HD television or its accoutrements, before I get accused of being rich and therefore not caring about the cost. We're stuck with a twenty-five inch non-widescreen television and a five-year old DVD player that we don't look like replacing for a long time. Doesn't mean I want everyone else to have to be.
Will this mean cheaper ps3s, cheaper ps3 games and cheaper blu-ray discs?
Probably the opposite sadly
These format wars are never good for the industry imo it is good that it will be over soon.
Surely HD has already taken off.
The entire HD disc market is around 3% - DVD still holds on to the rest, that is not what I regard as taking off.
Very odd thing to say when considering what the PS3 is up against.
I'll keep my response to these parts of your comments at this for the moment. What new technologies do you think that are going to come to the table to provide a better experience exactly?
I'll point you in one direction with the size of TV required that supports 1080p and how close you need to be to it to actually notice it over a 720p TV. Not everyone, in fact very few, wants a TV the size of an entire wall.
I have a 50 inch plasma and watch it from about 7/8 feet way. Is that good?
Another format!
Want to bet it won't be long before another format is introduced again.
Excellent. So at the distance I watch my screen from I'd get little or no extra benefit from 1080
This pleases me.
This pleases me.
Checked out a few plasmas yesterday. Panasonic's top models were amazing, followed by Pioneer's Kuro. I want one.
Excellent. So at the distance I watch my screen from I'd get little or no extra benefit from 1080
This pleases me.
It's an approximation, but essentially, yes, you wouldn't get much benefit from having a 1080p display. It's all to do with the eye being able to notice the difference between two adjacent pixels. This is why they don't generally produce 1080p displays less than 42" apart for computer monitors where you are right on top of them. There is very little need to go beyond 1080p for the vast majority of household use.
I'd expect the Pioneers to edge slightly on the burn a hole in your pocket side. How much were they?
Here the 42" 1080p LCDs from the medium sized companies like Sharp have now dropped below €1000, so they are approaching the 650 quid level.
I just got a 42" Sharp LCD a bluray player and black glass stand for just over a grand. Being delivered in the morning and Sky coming in the afternoon to set up HD box. Just had the Planet Earth bluray discs delivered. Can't wait for tommorrow.
I just got a 42" Sharp LCD a bluray player and black glass stand for just over a grand. Being delivered in the morning and Sky coming in the afternoon to set up HD box. Just had the Planet Earth bluray discs delivered. Can't wait for tommorrow.
Nice to see the older generation getting in on this as well!
You'll love Planet Earth Bob, enjoy it. And I suppose you'll get the football in HD as well.
Both around the same price, I think, Weastelad. Both excellent plasmas. Just thought the Panasonic edged it in picture quality. Very sharp, crisp and great contrast levels. I'm convinced it's the one for me.
I thought you were gonna buy that Samsung LCD with LEDs? If not save up for a few more years and buy one of theses
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/pioneers-project-kuro-the-9mm-thick-infinite-contrast-50-inch/
That is a fecking mint screen but no idea on when it is out, probably 2010 or 2011. The current Kuro's have amazing black levels but this one puts those to shame! http://www.engadget.com/photos/hands-on-with-pioneers-extreme-contrast-concept-plasma-1/562625/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/pioneers-project-kuro-the-9mm-thick-infinite-contrast-50-inch/
That is a fecking mint screen but no idea on when it is out, probably 2010 or 2011. The current Kuro's have amazing black levels but this one puts those to shame! http://www.engadget.com/photos/hands-on-with-pioneers-extreme-contrast-concept-plasma-1/562625/
Samsung's not meant to be great for Freeview. Apparently the Panasonic is the best overall.
and that Kuro looks mental.
The football was the main reason for getting it.Nice to see the older generation getting in on this as well!
You'll love Planet Earth Bob, enjoy it. And I suppose you'll get the football in HD as well.
Its not that I am selfish. I told the missus that loose women would look great in high def!!!Plasma's generally are usually better quality but come at a price. If you want a plasma I wouldn't go for anything other than a Pioneer or Fujitsu but they carry large price tags. Haven't looked at Panasonic's recently but their Viera range was suppose to be decent. Haven't they just announced some new ones?
I've always kept away from Plasma screens myself.
A mate of mine a few years back came home from the pub a little worse for wear and started playing his PS2 via the Plasma screen. Anyhow as expected he fell asleep (Passed out) leaving the PS2 and tv on. When he woke up the next morning he found that the video game image had burnt into the screen of the Plasma!
I'm sure that they developers have probably rectified the screen burn issue with Plasmas now but i'm still a little apprehensive.
A mate of mine a few years back came home from the pub a little worse for wear and started playing his PS2 via the Plasma screen. Anyhow as expected he fell asleep (Passed out) leaving the PS2 and tv on. When he woke up the next morning he found that the video game image had burnt into the screen of the Plasma!
I'm sure that they developers have probably rectified the screen burn issue with Plasmas now but i'm still a little apprehensive.
Burn in has been more or less eliminated especially if you are kind to your screen for the first 100 hours or so. I still wouldn't leave a bright static image on there overnight though.