Maybe that's what the three stars represent.
Bluemoon goes into Meltdown
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Maybe that's what the three stars represent.
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I just found out that juventus fans on juventuz.com are equally if not more deluded than the rags,
they are obviously not happy about Dzeko joining usand they cant understand how anyone can support or join a club "with no history" funny as feck
Whats funny about it? thats how every fan of every major club around the world sees City, a small insignifcant club with money, City's history is a renound laughing stock across europe, no wonder Juventus fans think the same, they are one of the few genuine major european houshold names, a massive club, something City will never be no matter how much oil money you spawn off some arab, youll always be that small little club in the shadow of Manchester United, players play for you for money nothing else, players play for clubs like Juventus and United for the honour.
And thats what really grates them...
they know they will never be anything like us or Madrid or Barcelona etc, they know their clubs full of mercenaries who couldn't give a shit about them, i doubt David Silva had heard of Manchester City 2 years ago! 
They wouldn't let me post this picture on bluemoon so I'll post it here instead, they'll all see it anyways
What you should've posted:
Manchester: 1977-2010
One of the above does not belong to United
Dave, I don't think you've overstayed your welcome. If you're feeling heated or whatever, then yeah, a break may be in order, but I don't think anyone has suggested they want you to leave, so come back, eh?
And Dave, if people like Dumpstar are still here, who offer nothing other than retarded one-line quips, then it's fair to say you can't have outstayed your welcome.
What is wrong with signing up on a rivals forum? Because the world support different teams are we not allowed to speak to each other? What's odd to me is some supporters attitudes which are abysmal. What you want, what you're interested in and what you know isn't gospel and doesn't govern anyone elses decisions. If a rival fan wants to sign up on here and make 250,000 posts then let them whether it's odd in your eyes or not. I'd rather read a 100% bollocks post from someone who is polite and has taken the time to write something they believe to be right even if it's wrong (as opinions can be wrong) than someone who just throws their attitude at them constantly because they've been wound up or they've picked up on a part of their post they laugh at and try to crucify.
As has already been said, it's good to have a rival fans perspective.
To Dave, you haven't overstayed your welcome and don't let some people acting like cnuts towards you make you feel that - your only issue is, you need to understand in advance the ramifications of coming before a group of people who are understandably biased towards United as we support them, and coming across with the 'your wrong' approach. It's going to immediately get peoples backs up. You're also always (whether you're right or wrong) going to get people disagreeing with you because you're a City fan. That's natural. Don't take that personally. I would never expect a City fan to accept I'm right on anything, but it shouldn't mean I'm not allowed to express my opinions to them or heaven forbid, talk to them about football because I'm a rival fan.
zeven said:Indeed. Excal is our own "newtonheathdave" here on blue-moon from now on, hopefully
Oh feck no.
Don't let some of the people here get to you Dave most of the regular posters here including me enjoy a different view on this forum
You definitely haven't outstayed your welcome Dave, you're a good bloke who likes to talk about football. The different perspective is always appreciated.
So on the one hand we've got a generally polite and knowledgeable City fan, hugely outnumbered and often irrationally disliked on an opposition board who has an openess and lust for learning about many things football and a good and contributive thirst for debate...
and on the other a slightly ranty United fan who slags off Brian Kidd and openly declares he has no desire to learn anything about the history of anyone other than United, of which he knows everything anyway and thinks it's a disgrace to be told otherwise (despite the rather baffling aforementioned slagging off of Brian Kid) and despite "not giving a shit" takes great pleasure in winding up oppo fans with his declarations on the clubs he "doesn't give a shit" about knowing anything about...
...and we're supposed to be rooting for the United one are we?
and on the other a slightly ranty United fan who slags off Brian Kidd and openly declares he has no desire to learn anything about the history of anyone other than United, of which he knows everything anyway and thinks it's a disgrace to be told otherwise (despite the rather baffling aforementioned slagging off of Brian Kid) and despite "not giving a shit" takes great pleasure in winding up oppo fans with his declarations on the clubs he "doesn't give a shit" about knowing anything about...
...and we're supposed to be rooting for the United one are we?
That just about sums up my feelings about that, too.
As per that discussion, Gary James sent me a free copy of that book and it is fantastic. Why any fans of either United or City would say that they are not interested in the history of their own club or of the general development of football and rivalries in Manchester is baffling to me.
Anyway, five words for Allforone: John Henry Davies, James Gibson.
sums up that little spat very well.
It would be a shame if you did not post back again.
I find you one of the more sensible City fans , most are idiots and think they will win everything in sight.
One of the thinks I like about Redcafe is that rival fans can come on here and debate what ever they want.
Not many football forums would do the same RAWK would ban you before a second posting and I dont thin Bluemoon would take it to well.
Dave's a top poster, and would be sorely missed. Since City are becoming title challengers, the Caf needs a representative of them, and he's the best/most reasonable you're going to get. I didn't vote him newbie of the year for nothing.
We welcome rival supporters here because broader opinions make for better discussions and ultimately make the CAF a better place.
You can accomplish much the same thing by making everyone wear hats though in fairness
I like Dave and think he brings a lot to the Caf but he's got to expect a bit of banter in return, afterall, we support United and he supports City.
I think Allforone's ban is a bit harsh, I hope it's not permanent?
I think Allforone's ban is a bit harsh, I hope it's not permanent?
Various people on the site have complained about his user name reminding them of the theme music for Dogtanian, which has since been looping round their heads incessantly. It had to be done.
This is not in fact the real reason.
This is not in fact the real reason.
DTguardian
Fight club part 6374 -> RT @DiscoMirror Kolo Toure and Adebayor in training-ground fracas today. Eight players piled in to break it up #MCFC
Fight club part 6374 -> RT @DiscoMirror Kolo Toure and Adebayor in training-ground fracas today. Eight players piled in to break it up #MCFC
This thread has been heavily censored...
You're such a conspiracy theorist Colin!
The expansion of the "Manchester City brand" is basically doomed. It will always be a me too brand. It will always be in the shadow of United. The whole freakin World associates Manchester with United. Hell, most casual fans I know call Manchester United just "Manchester". Man City is the Atlantic City or the Pepsi of football clubs.
That's giving them too much credit. They're the RC Cola of football clubs.
How do they feel about letting Adebayor come to us?
They banned me for some reason so I guess that's the end of my wee holiday. Though, I had somehow managed to work my way up to that magical 100 posts.
It's not that bad on there, some good posters and decent discussion to be found.
It's not that bad on there, some good posters and decent discussion to be found.
Give it up Alwyn, they aren't going to unban you.
No, seriously, they're all really cool people. Honestly.
we need the kippax kid back pronto!
For all that some of them seemed to like me well enough after my five posts there, I could not spend any great amount of time there without wanting to clatter one of them upside the head. A quick scan around saw an argument that "34 years" was wrong due to their First Division trophy in 2002, (followed by a general agreement with the OP and an apparent blindness to the fact that that's proof-positive of the small-time nature they so fervently deny,) and then this gem:
Yes, it will be dreadfully difficult for us to cope when City "eventually win something". (No one tell them the FFP clock is ticking.)
Yes, it will be dreadfully difficult for us to cope when City "eventually win something". (No one tell them the FFP clock is ticking.)
What about that bust up... Will it cost them the title ?
OK listen you hatless bumwits, I'm not saying dave is the second coming or the greatest thing since sliced Jesus in a sombrero, but (in response to all the posts that have now been deleted - thus making this post seem incredibly out of place and slightly nonsensicle in retrospect) that I'm far more willing to cut a sensible oppo fan some slack on here, and a degree of respect than I am a tardy (Adverb: to be a 'tard, or particularly tardish - usually in a hatless capacity) United fan acting billy big bollocks on a United board.
I find it a bit rich that posters like Pogue rubbished my other post by claiming to find dave (and Glaston's) "agenda's" annoying, when posters like Pogue are often the chief proprietors of the "I'm going to rebuke every criticism of our inconsistent fringe players with scorn and patronising authority" school of red biased agenda posting ....Which is perfectly understandable on a United forum, and wholeheartedly needed in an internet world replete with knee-jerk hatless gimps, but which never the less is a very biased United heavy "agenda" of it's own, which if taken to an opposition board would come across just as, if not far more annoyingly biased and agenda driven than nationalhealthdave and Glastonspaz do on here...(I realise i seem to have been singling you out a lot recently Pogue, this isn't actually intentional, you just seem to be taking stances I disagree with quite frequently, plus I have a deep rooted suspicion you despite hats)
Now, you could all respond by saying "well yes, but I wouldn't go on an opposition board cos I have no interest in it"...and that would be exactly my point. You wouldn't. I wouldn't. Most of us wouldn't, so I actually find myself having a greater deal of respect for these oppo fans who do spend a considerable amount of time on here debating the merits of their clubs against a sea of opposed thinking, than I do for a United fan in the same position, being biased and agenda driven in the safe haven of a sea of biased and agenda driven (and often it must be said, deeply humourless) posters. They're swimming against a tide, and leaving their comfort zone and are essentially the ethnic minorities of the forum, and I'll stick up for them anyday over their white-middle class 18-35 year old male counterparts laughing at them for being "not from round here" whilst comfortable in their likeminded surroundings.
.....Some might well then say "well they should at least respect the forum they're on and accept our way of thinking, and deserve everything they get if they come here and tell us differently"...to which I'd reply "Hello Richard Littlejohn, would you mind awfully fecking off and dying painfully"
In short, I actually prefer chatting to oppos, and wouldn't post on here nearly as much if there were less of them. I often think we have far too many fans who've no idea what it's actually like to be a football fan at all. We've had so much success that some people really don't understand what it's like to be a regular fan of a regular club. Some of the crowing at other fans of clubs who don't have the same constant stream of success as we do (which is pretty much every fecking club) and how they react to that often strikes me as a bit sad and pretty classless (Rafa poetry notwithstanding, cos that's just fecking funny) and I will doth my cap and offer my respect to any fan of any club that takes an interest in the history of other clubs and other teams and generally seeks out knowledge and understanding of football and it's fandom and stirs debate.... Rather than just thinking being the most militant "my way or the highway" red (or blue) makes them some kind of uberfan, when all it is really is the mentality of a hooligan....
..And hooligans never looked good in hats.
EDIT: Now of course having said that, my first cursory look at that site and everyone on it's chronic inability to go half a sentence without using the word rag or being farcically insulting reveals they're clearly a pretty spasticated bunch....Which is what happens when your attitude is so insular...The irony being their singling out of Allforone, when pretty much every alternate poster in that thead seems to share his mentality.
I find it a bit rich that posters like Pogue rubbished my other post by claiming to find dave (and Glaston's) "agenda's" annoying, when posters like Pogue are often the chief proprietors of the "I'm going to rebuke every criticism of our inconsistent fringe players with scorn and patronising authority" school of red biased agenda posting ....Which is perfectly understandable on a United forum, and wholeheartedly needed in an internet world replete with knee-jerk hatless gimps, but which never the less is a very biased United heavy "agenda" of it's own, which if taken to an opposition board would come across just as, if not far more annoyingly biased and agenda driven than nationalhealthdave and Glastonspaz do on here...(I realise i seem to have been singling you out a lot recently Pogue, this isn't actually intentional, you just seem to be taking stances I disagree with quite frequently, plus I have a deep rooted suspicion you despite hats)
Now, you could all respond by saying "well yes, but I wouldn't go on an opposition board cos I have no interest in it"...and that would be exactly my point. You wouldn't. I wouldn't. Most of us wouldn't, so I actually find myself having a greater deal of respect for these oppo fans who do spend a considerable amount of time on here debating the merits of their clubs against a sea of opposed thinking, than I do for a United fan in the same position, being biased and agenda driven in the safe haven of a sea of biased and agenda driven (and often it must be said, deeply humourless) posters. They're swimming against a tide, and leaving their comfort zone and are essentially the ethnic minorities of the forum, and I'll stick up for them anyday over their white-middle class 18-35 year old male counterparts laughing at them for being "not from round here" whilst comfortable in their likeminded surroundings.
.....Some might well then say "well they should at least respect the forum they're on and accept our way of thinking, and deserve everything they get if they come here and tell us differently"...to which I'd reply "Hello Richard Littlejohn, would you mind awfully fecking off and dying painfully"
In short, I actually prefer chatting to oppos, and wouldn't post on here nearly as much if there were less of them. I often think we have far too many fans who've no idea what it's actually like to be a football fan at all. We've had so much success that some people really don't understand what it's like to be a regular fan of a regular club. Some of the crowing at other fans of clubs who don't have the same constant stream of success as we do (which is pretty much every fecking club) and how they react to that often strikes me as a bit sad and pretty classless (Rafa poetry notwithstanding, cos that's just fecking funny) and I will doth my cap and offer my respect to any fan of any club that takes an interest in the history of other clubs and other teams and generally seeks out knowledge and understanding of football and it's fandom and stirs debate.... Rather than just thinking being the most militant "my way or the highway" red (or blue) makes them some kind of uberfan, when all it is really is the mentality of a hooligan....
..And hooligans never looked good in hats.
EDIT: Now of course having said that, my first cursory look at that site and everyone on it's chronic inability to go half a sentence without using the word rag or being farcically insulting reveals they're clearly a pretty spasticated bunch....Which is what happens when your attitude is so insular...The irony being their singling out of Allforone, when pretty much every alternate poster in that thead seems to share his mentality.
If the first division trophy counts, then so would the Second Division trophy, which we won in 1936, meaning we went one year less than them (25 as opposed to 26) without a trophy.
Seems a bit self defeating, as they don't get to do that bizarre bit where they pretend that the two World Wars didnt happen, just the first one, and they still end up on the short shrift.
Seems a bit self defeating, as they don't get to do that bizarre bit where they pretend that the two World Wars didnt happen, just the first one, and they still end up on the short shrift.
Strange you should mention preferring to talk to opposition fans Mockney, for some strange reason I prefer talking about other clubs and other issues in football rather than United. Still not really sure why though!
I've just always been like that when it comes to football.
I've just always been like that when it comes to football.
I think having oppo fans around provides a bit of perspective, and helps to moderate the natural biases that a group of fans of one team will tend to propagate amongst each other.