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Apparantly they feel that City is a very similar club to Chelsea:
Apparantly they feel that City is a very similar club to Chelsea:
Manchester City is nothing like Chelsea as a club in any way. The only similarity is we have a rich owner who wanted to spend his cash
True, Chelsea are much bigger and better than you could ever dream of being
what do you bass big on? Remember this is a club who did not win a title for 50 years and who have never in their history got crowds as good as City.
Now if you said successful over the last few years then I could not argue with you but I would like to know your definition of big. Becasue I remember days at Stamford Bridge when they used to park their cars behind the goals and the ground was empty.
Also City have beat Chelsea 3 times on the trot so on the pitch theres arguably not much between both teams
Chelsea- 4 times champions, beat Real Madrid in a major final, won a shed load more FA and League Cups than you, CL participants for a large part of PL era. Need I say more?
As for you, a league in the year we won the European Cup, a couple of CC's, and the "true Manc club" and you think you're bigger than Chelsea? Not a chance.
You're both small, insignificant club's as far as history and impact in the football world goes, but they are bigger than you.
That's a bit of a bogus measure IMO.
Liverpool beat us 3 times in a row Sept 08 - Oct 09, yet you'd never argue that our squads were equal or thereabouts.
Yeah tbh i'd say city are as big as chelsea, historically. It's smalltime to use them as an example of being massive though.
Do you feel that city may suffer a crisis of identity in the next few years nhd? Sugar daddy status suited chelsea as they were a flash club on the kings road with a fanbase primarily in surrey. City have always prsented themselves as the anethesis to united and wouldnt a lot of you find it a bit awkward to only have a chance of winning things by winning the sugar daddy lottery? Genuine question and wouldnt blame people if they laid these so called principles to one side, just curious. Most city fans i know have been nothing but positive about the situation, i'd have thought some would have thought you'd just become another united?
Do you feel that city may suffer a crisis of identity in the next few years nhd? Sugar daddy status suited chelsea as they were a flash club on the kings road with a fanbase primarily in surrey. City have always prsented themselves as the anethesis to united and wouldnt a lot of you find it a bit awkward to only have a chance of winning things by winning the sugar daddy lottery? Genuine question and wouldnt blame people if they laid these so called principles to one side, just curious. Most city fans i know have been nothing but positive about the situation, i'd have thought some would have thought you'd just become another united?
Sky did not invent football, its been going for a lot longer than the premier league. Are you saying that trophies are what defines whether a club is big because by your reasoning then Notts Forrest are the 3rd biggest Club in Briatain and one of the biggest in world football as they have won the European Cup twice
Of course not, they wipe the floor with you in fanbase, they wipe the floor with you in the trophy and prestige stakes pre and post PL.
The day you win 7 FA Cups and 5 CC's and also beat Real Madrid in a major European final, and actually challenge for the big trophies in the modern day is the day you can call yourselves bigger than that lot.
I feel disgusted with myself for bigging up what little history they have, but it sure as hell beats yours.
Chelsea are better than City over all, no argument of me. Best team in England and will win the title again imo.
To use a boxing anology though styles makes fights and City's style seems to be able to expose Chelsea a bit and has done so recently. Ove the season thoough Chelsea will wipe up the shit teams city have trouble with and give way to much respect to
so your saying trophies are thats all that matters?
I agree.
Was going to add something like that onto the end of my post.
You can have all the talent in the world, but it's as good as useless if you can't maximise it quickly. Something which City are slowly learning. Maybe
Chelsea's 4 titles are diminished slightly due to the abramovich factor just as city winning any title in the next few years would be to me. It's not enough to effect the historical status of a club imo. Otherwise huddersfield would be seen as bigger than both chelsea or city.
To me it's about a spread of success in more than one era.
Clearly United, Arsenal and Liverpool are in a group ahead of everyone else. Then everton, spurs and villa. Maybe leeds? Then a larger group of city, chelsea, sunderland, newcastle etc.
Just as a rough guide obviously. I wouldnt put chelsea miles ahead of city though. If anyone is to win stuff other than united then i still prefer it to be chelsea - unlike arse and redshite their success seems kind of plastic, in comparison at least.
Boateng has been injured, he damaged his leg on a drinks trolley playing for Germany. He was serving cocktails down the left flank at the time.
Theres no doubt that City will attract glory hunters and oot'ers so to speak. The profile of the club is getting bigger and thats what comes with the territory. The identity of City fans is changing now. Theres a lot of arrogant blues who expect success now just becasue we have money. Nothing in life is guarenteed and these idiots who think its the end of the world because we lose to poznan or are a bit unlucky against Arsenal ought to remember where we have come through and come from. When we were down in the dumps the fans stuck together and theres no doubt in my mind if it was not for the fans getting behind the team then we would have been in thesame position as Leeds and Sheff Weds. Theres nothing I can do about other blues, I can only worry about myself. As far as the identity of the club goes, yes it will change but I support Manchester city, they are my team and I will support them no matter what.
As for the the takeover, its the best thing thats happened to City in my lifetime and given the opttion of struggling againbst relegation every season or challenging at the top then theres only one winner
Think that's exactly how i'd feel tbh if the roles were reversed. You'll get mongoloids following a club no matter what the situation. I know united fans who know jack about football and tend to seperate idiots from real football supporters irrespective of who they support but how they approach the game.
It'll be hard for some city fans though cos the grey cloud to the silver lining will be attracting the kind of fan you've ridiculed united for in the past.
Every club has morons though, irrespective of wealth, just take a look at a matchday thread in here - there's no patience or perspective from people at all. It's amazing how critical people are unless you win every game. Stupid!
It'll be hard for some city fans though cos the grey cloud to the silver lining will be attracting the kind of fan you've ridiculed united for in the past.
Every club has morons though, irrespective of wealth, just take a look at a matchday thread in here - there's no patience or perspective from people at all. It's amazing how critical people are unless you win every game. Stupid!
No, but in this case, it does. City and Chelsea are similar in the sense that they've both spent time in the lower divisions not so long ago, neither have truly established themselves as genuine top club's, and both have similar sized stadiums.
The fact Chelsea's trophy count dwarves your's along with their much bigger global AKA gloryhunter appeal means they are much bigger than you in stature.
In my lifetime I have never had it as good as a city fan. Some united fans might scoff at that but thats the truth and I intend enjoying every last bit of it and hope we can make you pull that banner down.
It makes me laugh watching us blues have major episodes after losing to poznan in the uefa cup even though qualification is still in our hands and 2 more important games coming up.
I remember getting beat of Mansfield in the auto glass windscreen trophy northern section and I don't remember the same hullaballoo apart from the daily mirror taking the piss as there was for Thursdays performance. Some of the shit in the media and on forums has been pathetic. Give me our current position any day of the week. City still have everything to play for this season and I would have took ourcurrent position at the start of the season and funnily enough I bet all them blues calling for Mancinis head now would have snapped your hand of at the start of the seasonfor the chance to go into the derby 3 points behind United and will a fully fit squad
Sorry mate but your argument falls apart when you contradict yourself in your first sentence.
Have a walk round Manchester and you might see that City are not exactly a small little shitty club.
When City were in Div 3 they were getting an average of 29000, Chelsea were getting an average of 34000 in the premier league. At that point City had 2 league timtle to chelseas one. Added to that City now get more than Chelsea in the same division even though City have not won a trophy for 34 years and come from the same city as arguably the biggest club in world football then its clear to see that Chelsea are a much bigger club in stature than Manchester city
The media taking the piss, as well as opposition fans, should be expected. The forums should be supporting rather than criticising.
City should stick with a boss for 3-4 years before getting rid, personally thought hughes should have been allowed that. If a player is unhappy/causing probs then you should get rid. I dont think you needed to be quite as brash with the cash either, it's set a bit of a dangerous precedent - should be looking to walk before you can run. Toure being on 200k a week is ridiculous and i dont think you needed to do that. You're best signings, for me, were milner and johnson.
I'm hoping that the banner can stay for at least a few more years you lot having gary cooke in such a prominent position may help in that manner.
City should stick with a boss for 3-4 years before getting rid, personally thought hughes should have been allowed that. If a player is unhappy/causing probs then you should get rid. I dont think you needed to be quite as brash with the cash either, it's set a bit of a dangerous precedent - should be looking to walk before you can run. Toure being on 200k a week is ridiculous and i dont think you needed to do that. You're best signings, for me, were milner and johnson.
I'm hoping that the banner can stay for at least a few more years
you lot having gary cooke in such a prominent position may help in that manner.United's shadow is a big one.
City shouldn't really compare their success with Chelsea's though. Not yet, at any rate.
City shouldn't really compare their success with Chelsea's though. Not yet, at any rate.
I can't agree with that. Chavs and Shitty have almost equal trophy number. Chelsea won their titles (Prem and FA cup) mostly in Abramovich era. If there was no sugar daddy, there would be no success and they would have 1 CWC over Shitty. Both clubs are insignificant in terms of history and club stature. Chavs are currently the flavour of the month which clouds the judgment.
Even after heavy spending and being the top club in the country with massive transfer kitty and pumping millions in the team and club, Chavs have 2 PL titles and 2 FA cups over Shitty. That's not a vast difference for me.
up untill recently city had more leagues, fa cups and league cup wins.
Sorry mate but your argument falls apart when you contradict yourself in your first sentence.
Have a walk round Manchester and you might see that City are not exactly a small little shitty club.
When City were in Div 3 they were getting an average of 29000, Chelsea were getting an average of 34000 in the premier league. At that point City had 2 league timtle to chelseas one. Added to that City now get more than Chelsea in the same division even though City have not won a trophy for 34 years and come from the same city as arguably the biggest club in world football then its clear to see that Chelsea are a much bigger club in stature than Manchester city
I don't see how I contrdict myself.
I know City have a good core support in Manchester, every club has a strong local following(unless you're United of course, according to your lot we are all Cockney's and Asians on board for the glory), look outside Greater Manchester though, and you'll find City aren't even in the same ballpark as Chelsea, that becomes even more clear when you look how many gloryhunting fans Chelsea have accrued across the world over the last decade.
I live in Warrington, 20 minute drive from Manchester city centre on a good, traffic free day, and I see more Chelsea shirts round these parts than I do City ones.
I'm not one to really hold lack of global appeal against a club because it's not something that I'm particularly enamoured with, but the fact you seem to see it as something that makes up for lack of trophies is why I'm willing to use the argument.
Give it 5 years tho wire red and city shirts will become more noticeable in warrington etc. Chelsea have only been popular on a non local scale since the money and, subsequently, the trophies poured in.
It's completely incorrect to say that, historically, chelsea are bigger than city. If chelsea hadnt had the success they have had in the last decade then there'd be nothing between them, both in terms of success and in global following.
It's completely incorrect to say that, historically, chelsea are bigger than city. If chelsea hadnt had the success they have had in the last decade then there'd be nothing between them, both in terms of success and in global following.
I cant talk for now but when I used to go raving in Warrington ( the world, mr smiths ) I never seen one Chelsea shirt but there was a massive Warrington City supporters branch at a pub just up the road from the world.
Its core support thats important not some guy in Africa who could not show you Stamford Bridge on a map who supports them just becasue Drogba and Kalou.
Its not an argument mate as United and Liverpool are the 2 big English clubs then you have to say Arsenal and Villa with City, Spuds and Chelsea taking up the next group.
But looking at it, for the vast majority of their hundred and odd year history City have won more and got higher attendances than Chelsea have
I agree totally, local and loyal support is the lifeblood of a club, or at least should be. The point I'm making is that global support is a better indication of the prestige of a club and how highly it's regarded, generally because they are gloryhunters, and you need success to attract them.
Depends how long ago you used to come down to Warrington(a while judging by the Smith's reference, it's been renamed, revamped a load of times and has now shut down
), the last 5 years has seen a depressing increase in Chelsea blue around the place, the City element have been swamped in comparison.And that is why City is a massive club.
What is this battle of the plastics?
whoaaaaa there mate but theres no chance anyone on the planet can call City plactic fans especially not a united fan
Maybe it's the plastic of the credit card?
They're both pants clubs. It's like a battle of the anti-footballers in here.
I thought this thread was supposed to be about laughing at Bluemoon?
If NHD wants to argue the toss about Shitty why doesn't he start his own thread on it and keep this one for laughing at the deluded idiots on Bluemoon?
If NHD wants to argue the toss about Shitty why doesn't he start his own thread on it and keep this one for laughing at the deluded idiots on Bluemoon?
So true...so true...
Here is a West Bromich Albions fans take on Manchester City:
Manchester City - They disgust me....
I think that chap deserves a medal, spot on with everything he said there especially the bits in bold, so funny because they are so true.
The Fans.....
Arrogant, over expectant hypocrites who chant for Manchini the week after wanting him out. The sub human scrotum who shouted "Blue Army" during the minutes silence for what i took as being for my grandad (as im sure many others did for their close friends/relatives who have been in conflict) should be hung - sums the whole club and team up, out of touch with reality. That one minute had nothing to do with football, it was somthing much bigger.
The Team......
Thuggish, impatient, overpaid, underworked prostitutes. Moaning, diving, cheating scumbags who couldn't give a toss about the club the play for. Until the money was offered you can guaruntee the whole lot of them were only aware of one club in Manchester, and it wasn't the one who have won less silverware than Rochdale over the last 40 years.
Boletti or whatever his name is.....
King of the whores, an absoloutely pathetic excuse for a human being - he's a cheat and a coward who i hope gets his leg snapped in two one day so he can roll around in agony for real.
The Club in general......
Everything that is wrong with football today, those players couldn't give a toss about that club and the fans seem thick enough not to know it. At least our players have a goal, to improve themselves and move up the ladder, City's players are made and have no motivation to do anything other than live up their own backsides.
Give me my Albion any day, we are nobodies plaything and have a soul - and i wouldn't swap it for all the trophies in the world.
Manchester City - They disgust me....
I think that chap deserves a medal, spot on with everything he said there especially the bits in bold, so funny because they are so true.
That is fantastic as very true. Try saying it and you'll be a gelous united fan though.
Dont you know everyone's jealous of City, everyone's out to get them, all the commentators hate them, the media has an agenda against them, the FA are doing all they can to stop them blady blady blah.
much over 30,000 are plastic though
as for United fans, our huge support that has been there since the mid-fifties and long before PL says there's little plastic about us - although I will concede we've attracted a fair few in relatively recent times the core has always been far from plastic. Apart from Busby's astute management our brilliant fan-base was there yonks ago and that's what made us "massive"
All those plastic fans who made United the highest attended club in England during the season in the Second Division.