Enigma_87
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I'm not sure about that. English teams weren't hugely competitive in Europe in Shearer's pomp and there was clearly a hangover from the Heysel ban. At the same time, Greaves did his scoring in an English league whose best players won the big one in '66. Obviously hard to compare across eras, but very few would dispute Greaves' status as the best goalscorer in the history of the English game. Otherwise agree with the rest of your post and have always been a fan of Littbarski.
Well depend on how you look at it. English national team didn't even qualify for 4 out of the 5 EURO's during the late 50's, 60's and early 70's. They won 3rd place in 68, but so did in 96, led by Shearer only to lose on penos.
At the WC they won it in 66, but in 90 they were 4th, then couple of QF's and no show in 94.
In the european cups the results are comparable, but with the90's format it's harder to get to the final stages as there are more top teams rather than champions of lower leagues.
But again I agree it's very hard to compare eras.
No, I wasn't referring to anyone in particular. Just to the fact that there is always outrage of this sort: "Unbeliavable so-and-so wasn't picked!" Well, as Gio suggests - name and shame. Who clearly dropped a bollock by not picking X (who is significantly better than Y)? That would make some sense: There's a huge batch of players here who could have been picked, and who aren't worse (certainly not significantly so) than a huge batch of players who were picked - but that's entirely understandable, not to say precisely as expected, in an all-time draft.
Even the likes of Pirlo can end up unpicked, depending on what people prefer and which set-ups are favoured. He doesn't effectively compete with every midfielder in the pool - you have to factor in how he needs to be deployed, realistically, and then look at who he should have replaced by rights (being clearly better).
It's all down to the system if you ask me. I couldn't possibly see Pirlo in our side, even if he was a better player than somebody else in terms of individual. For me the balance of the team and how they will stick together is what is more important rather than the name on the sheet.
Problem is that everyone has his personal favorites and it's hard to make a case who is better when comparing great players. If it is Henry or Batistuta, or Shearer and Greaves or Socrates and Kaka or somebody else.
It's hard even to measure it. For example personally if there was no restriction(in which case it's easier for the latter) but if I could choose between Cruyff and Maradona I'd still pick the former as his style fits better in my formation views rather than individual qualities. It's also pretty hard to compare 2 great players from different eras. It's easier for example C.Ronaldo and Messi as you see them both week in and week out but 10-20-30 years apart...
My first thought also before Henry was Kalle on top but he was shortly picked.
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