Billy No Mates Draft

[Moby]

 

[Moby]

1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson
8. Balu/crappy - 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R.Carlos
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5.
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5.
16. Invictus/ Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5.

@Edgar Allan Pillow @Skizzo @Pat_Mustard

 

[Skizzo]

 

[Skizzo]

1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson
8. Balu/crappy - 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R.Carlos
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5.
16. Invictus/ Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5.

@Enigma_87 @MJJ

 

[Tuppet]

@diarm

 

[diarm]

Enigma picks Manuel Amoros.

1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R.Carlos
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros
16. Invictus/ Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5.

@Invictus @Theon

 

[Skizzo]

Thought this might sweep back up quicker. Heading to bed.

 

[Balu]

Thought this might sweep back up quicker. Heading to bed.

Are the other two around? If not you can leave a pick with me unless you already have sent it to someone else.

 

[green_smiley]

I am here to help

 

[Moby]

Are the other two around? If not you can leave a pick with me unless you already have sent it to someone else.

Invictus was around when it was his pick, I think.

 

[Skizzo]

Invictus was around when it was his pick, I think.

He's online I think, but they're plotting and scheming in Pm

Are the other two around? If not you can leave a pick with me unless you already have sent it to someone else.

@Pat_Mustard usually pops on around this time, so he should be.

 

[diarm]

I wouldn't worry too much lads. @Enigma_87 only gave me one name and said he'd be offline for 10 hours or so. That was only 4 hours ago

 

[Cutch]

Yep was sure he'd get picked very soon. Great player though he blocks quite a lot in this

 

[Skizzo]

Yep was sure he'd get picked very soon. Great player though he blocks quite a lot in this

yeah he's part of a group that all cancel each other out. We think we've planned accordingly, so we'll see how that pans out

 

[Invictus]

Il Muro di Berlino



The Storm of Cantabria



1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R.Carlos
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros
16. Invictus/ Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Cannavaro 6. Gento

 

[Moby]

Yeah, I was thinking of Gento since a couple of rounds, I actually thought of Xavi only today and decided to ditch the Spaniard. Gento and Garrincha down the flanks would have made your fullbacks do a Gary Lineker impression on the pitch.

Having said that, Gento supplying to Van Basten makes much sense than him on the flank with Romario in the middle, so I'm happy he's in the right setup and I will find a more suitable partner for the Baixinho.

 

[Invictus]

@Enigma_87 @MJJ

 

[MJJ]

Ahh feck wanted cafu

Calling an audible here, but we will take giggs.

@Edgar Allan Pillow

 

[Moby]

@Skizzo @Pat_Mustard @Edgar Allan Pillow

 

[green_smiley]

1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R.Carlos
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros 6. Giggs
16. Invictus/ Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Cannavaro 6. Gento

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Almost always never gets picked earlier, no clue why!

1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R.Carlos
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu 6. Baggio
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros 6. Giggs
16. Invictus/ Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Cannavaro 6. Gento

@Aldo

 

[Moby]

no clue why!

Really? You have to play him in a front two to get the best out of him and not many draft friendly formations support that. If you slot him as a #10 or a wide forwardish role, then plenty of options are there.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Really? You have to play him in a front two to get the best out of him and not many draft friendly formations support that. If you slot him as a #10 or a wide forwardish role, then plenty of options are there.

Think he fits all 3 roles nicely. Almost every draft we have teams playing a diamond, but still he never get picked. Great #10 too.

 

[VivaJanuzaj]

I don't see a scenario where Rijkaard-VanHanegem-Baggio wouldn't be able to play a three men midfield.

 

[crappycraperson]

Baggio does not qualify as a midfielder. He is a forward pure and simple.

 

[Moby]

Great #10 too.

In a 4-2-3-1? No, not for me. In a 4-4-1-1, sure.

 

[VivaJanuzaj]

Baggio does not qualify as a midfielder. He is a forward pure and simple.

In a 4-2-3-1? No, not for me. In a 4-4-1-1, sure.

I think he can do a job as a #10 in a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 if he's paired with proper DMs, that's why with VH&Rijkaard I believe it wouldn't be a problem in real life. In these drafts it all depends how the opposition is set up really, but it's definitely not impossible to imagine him being able to play there.

 

[green_smiley]

Stop debating and make your pick @Aldo

Gio is waiting lol

 

[Moby]

Stop debating and make your pick @Aldo

Gio is waiting lol

Deciding, dude.

 

[Moby]

Actually, pushing me works. So once again, I say feck it, just go with it.

 

[Moby]

1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R.Carlos
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi 6. Schuster
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu 6. Baggio
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros 6. Giggs
16. Invictus/ Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Cannavaro 6. Gento

@Gio

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Baggio does not qualify as a midfielder. He is a forward pure and simple.

Definitely disagree. The prevalence of 442 made him an second striker mostly. Call him a 9.5 maybe, but saying he's not a AM is just wrong imo. He's fine there.

 

[Moby]

Definitely disagree. The prevalence of 442 made him an second striker mostly. Call him a 9.5 maybe, but saying he's not a AM is just wrong imo. He's fine there.

Why? SS and AM are two completely different roles. Maradona is an attacking midfielder, Pele is a forward, who played at his best as a support striker. Positional interference shouldn't lead to confusion between the two.

 

[Gio]

What a pair of legs.

1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R.Carlos
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta 6. Souness
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi 6. Schuster
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu 6. Baggio
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros 6. Giggs
16. Invictus/ Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Cannavaro 6. Gento

@diarm

 

[Enigma_87]

Ahh feck wanted cafu

I think it's better with Amoros to be honest. Cafu has more scan votes on his side, but I think Amoros is a tad better defensively and has the option to play on the left as good as on the right.

Have no remorse for that choice.

Also right side of Figo/Amoros

I'm really happy how our squad has turned out so far, Giggs, Figo, Henry and Cruyff in attack give the right balance and are perfect fit for the formation. Baresi and Amoros are one of the best in their respective positions as well.

 

[diarm]

Giuseppe Bergomi

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1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R.Carlos
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria 6. Bergomi
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta 6. Souness
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi 6. Schuster
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu 6. Baggio
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros 6. Giggs
16. Invictus/ Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Cannavaro 6. Gento

@RedTiger @Marty1968

 

[Cutch]

Lookin one of the standout sides so far Diarm

 

[Moby]

Lookin one of the standout sides so far Diarm

Trust me on this Cutch, it will fall victim to the age old argument the draft regulars absolutely love to make - too many cooks spoil the pot.

 

[Theon]

There he goes

 

[Cutch]

Trust me on this Cutch, it will fall victim to the age old argument the draft regulars absolutely love to make - too many cooks spoil the pot.

There will be those of course, but its a muppets dream. Will be a hard one to outscore and a couple of brilliant defenders just added.