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Berbatov
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Calm down everyone. Don't let a random Bulgarian get on your nerves.
There are still tons of things to look forward to at or after work. You know, like boning the missus
exactly! or maybe even your own...
I feel like another cheese pasty.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...atov-move-expected-before-weekend-896876.html
Berbatov move expected before weekend
Reuters
Thursday, 14 August 2008
Reports suggest Berbatov will move for a fee of around £28m
Manchester United are expected to have Bulgarian striker Dimitar Berbatov in the side when they open their bid for a third Premier League title in a row against Newcastle United on Sunday.
Manager Alex Ferguson made it clear this week United are in the market for a striker and British media have reported Tottenham Hotspur's Berbatov as the target for weeks, fuelled by comments from the striker's agent last month that United were interested.
Whether or not the widely-tipped move goes through, United will be without Cristiano Ronaldo, who is recovering from ankle surgery and possibly Wayne Rooney, who has had a viral illness.
United will be the last of the League's "Big Four" to see action on the opening weekend of the new season, with Arsenal facing promoted West Bromwich Albion in an early kickoff at the Emirates Stadium on Saturday.
Arsenal, who missed nine senior players for their midweek Champions League qualifier at Twente Enschede in the Netherlands but still won 2-0, will look to be sharper against West Brom.
Liverpool, who have brought in former Spurs striker Robbie Keane to spearhead the attack with Fernando Torres, visit Sunderland later on Saturday. They will be looking for goals after a frustrating 0-0 draw in Belgium against Standard Liege in their Champions League qualifier on Wednesday.
Chelsea, last season's runners-up and who are expected to provide the stiffest challenge to United again this season, face FA Cup winners Portsmouth on Sunday.
Every newspaper seems to be running with thee stories, it cant all be made up, something must be happening.... i really wanted him with us for the first game of the season but as long as we get him ill still be pleased.
I dont think we will get him by tomorrow though, unless something unlikely happens
Berbatov move expected before weekend
Reuters
Thursday, 14 August 2008
Reports suggest Berbatov will move for a fee of around £28m
Manchester United are expected to have Bulgarian striker Dimitar Berbatov in the side when they open their bid for a third Premier League title in a row against Newcastle United on Sunday.
Manager Alex Ferguson made it clear this week United are in the market for a striker and British media have reported Tottenham Hotspur's Berbatov as the target for weeks, fuelled by comments from the striker's agent last month that United were interested.
Whether or not the widely-tipped move goes through, United will be without Cristiano Ronaldo, who is recovering from ankle surgery and possibly Wayne Rooney, who has had a viral illness.
United will be the last of the League's "Big Four" to see action on the opening weekend of the new season, with Arsenal facing promoted West Bromwich Albion in an early kickoff at the Emirates Stadium on Saturday.
Arsenal, who missed nine senior players for their midweek Champions League qualifier at Twente Enschede in the Netherlands but still won 2-0, will look to be sharper against West Brom.
Liverpool, who have brought in former Spurs striker Robbie Keane to spearhead the attack with Fernando Torres, visit Sunderland later on Saturday. They will be looking for goals after a frustrating 0-0 draw in Belgium against Standard Liege in their Champions League qualifier on Wednesday.
Chelsea, last season's runners-up and who are expected to provide the stiffest challenge to United again this season, face FA Cup winners Portsmouth on Sunday.
Every newspaper seems to be running with thee stories, it cant all be made up, something must be happening.... i really wanted him with us for the first game of the season but as long as we get him ill still be pleased.
I dont think we will get him by tomorrow though, unless something unlikely happens
Can we just get back to Greggs talk?
You mean something dramatic?
Just because a bunch of newspapers copy one newspaper that is full of crap does not give the story any more credibility.
No greggs talk is too boring now.
the only thing in quotes in the article is "Big Four"
fergie said we are looking to get someone in before the season starts
it was thursday , now its before the start of the season.
whatever it is .. just hope its resolved soon
fergie said we are looking to get someone in before the season starts
it was thursday , now its before the start of the season.
whatever it is .. just hope its resolved soon
Have you ever been to a greggs?
Sorry for wasting your time reading that - i am so sorry - i'm very humbled that you did read it though, thank you kindly!
I have other pieces that might be of some interest to you - maybe this one will gain your respect - its some of my best work:
The Genome: Have it Your Way
Most people are familiar with the Burger King slogan “BK: Have it your way. “What most people do not know is that more than just Burger King is planning on letting people have it their way. In fact, the “have it your way” way has been around for a while, but only recently has it invaded probably one of the oldest actions of most species, passing on their genetic traits. Animals mate and pass on a mixture of each parent’s genetic traits to their offspring. This is how microevolution developed. The animals with certain traits that were conducive to their survival lived and reproduced, with their offspring retaining those traits. It is believed giraffes’ necks become so long through the mating of animals that were able to survive because they could reach leaves in tall trees. But now commercialism and science have asked for different animals than nature has provided.
Oryx and Crake is a futuristic novel by Margaret Atwood. The main character Jimmy is the child of scientists who work with Pigoons, pigs with human parts. The idea is to have spare parts for patients needing skin grafts, livers, and even parts of brains. The genetic alteration of animals in the novel eventually leads to Jimmy’s best friend, Crake, altering the human species. He removes “undesirable aspects” and adds traits he admires in other species into the creation of a new species, the “Crakers”. Under Crake’scontrol is a team of scientists none of whom seem to blink an eye at what they are creating. Those who are aware of the project believe that the new species will be sold as designer babies for the wealthy. Genetic alteration is a way of life in Atwood’s vision of the future. Will it become a way of life in our real future?
The altered version of any species of plant, insect, or animal is known as a Genetically Modified Organism (GMO). GMOs can come in many forms, from bacteria to fish to monkeys. For animals, most of these modifications now come from the inserting of a gene into the embryo of the species trying to be altered. In the novel Oryx and Crake these GMOs were also being created by bored scientists. Besides Pigoons, they had Rakunks and Snats which were created by splicing together the genes of two different species. Present-day technology is not creating fully mixed species, but it is creating species with genes from other species. And, just as a rat and a snake would never mate, a monkey and a jellyfish would never mix. It goes against nature. But lately it seems nature will be forgotten for the sake of “progress”.
Testing pharmaceuticals and possible other ways of curing humans on animals has been happening for years in the science community. But though humans and animals are all members of the animal kingdom, serious differences exist in their genomes, making it hard to know if these treatments will work on the human population. The first genetically modified mammals were mice altered in 1976 (Ren, 29). Since then altering the genes of animals has reached new levels. From fish to mice to primates, the steps continue to move closer and closer to altering a human’s genes. The question is, why?
Mice have been altered in many ways to suit research; these mice are known as Transgenic Mice. Examples include the OncoMouse and the Doogie Mice. The OncoMouse, developed at Harvard University, was created with an activated oncogene. A normal oncogene is believed to be the mutated gene that causes cancer. These mice are thus created to be highly susceptible to cancer. Doogie Mice have an altered N-methyl d-aspertate (NMDA) receptor. This receptor is responsible for helping learning and memory. The modified version of it increases the ability of mice to learn and remember what they have been taught (“House Mouse, Mus Musculus”).
Another version of a genetically altered group of mice is the Knockout Mice. A Knockout Mouse, unlike transgenic mice, does not have an added gene; instead one or more of their genes are rendered useless. This is done by placing an inactive version of the exact same section of the gene sequence next to the original active version. The body then replaces the original section with duplication because it does not see the inactivity of the gene sequence. There are multiple reasons for doing this, the largest of which is to determine the purpose of that gene. Mice with and without the working gene are studied and compared for differences. One example is “Fat Mice”. These mice are classified as morbidly obese due to the change in one gene, Carboxypeptidase-E.“Fat Mice” are just one type of many being created by this technology.
The“Methuselah” mice are created to outlive their fellow mice. The “Frantic” mice are created to study anxiety disorders and to develop possible cures that fix the affected genes. “Strong Mice” have abnormally high levels of strength due to knocking out the Myostatin gene that limits muscle growth. Knockout mice offer scientists great advantages and hope for the cure of many diseases (“Knockout Mice”). For example, if Cystic Fibrosis was detected early enough, quite possibly the knockout method would alter the CTFR gene. But at the same time they show what humans may one day be paying to have done so that they have extraordinary skills. Who wouldn’t want to have a stronger baby or a smarter baby? Parents no longer want their kids to simply be healthy and happy. Unfortunately they want their kids to be the best. But not everyone can be the best. Money can already buy so much; will it soon buy the perfect kid before it is even conceived?
In 2000, ANDi was born, and alteration of genes took one stepcloser to humans. ANDi, the reversal of the acronym for inserted DNA, is a rhesus monkey that was born with a small amount of a GFP gene, found in jellyfish. Scientists at Oregon Regional Primate Research Center created ANDi by infecting an unfertilized egg with a virus. This virus, carrying the GFP gene, affected a chromosome in the egg a few hours before fertilization. This process was performed on over two hundred eggs. Roughly half those eggs failed to grow. The only baby born with the gene that survived was ANDi; two others carrying it were stillborn (Trivedi). For the scientists that created ANDi, this monkey holds the hope that one day they will be able to create primates, who are similar to humans in genetics and behavior, who can carry genetic diseases presently trying to be cured (Ren, 29).
One of the first genetically altered animals created for commercial purposes was the GloFish®, the natural occurring Zebra Fish with a fluorescent protein gene from different marine creatures such as jellyfish. These GloFish® are sold for aquarium use only, but that does not mean that they and their spliced jellyfish genes will not make it into nature. The company that created GloFish® runs a website with information about their product. Most of the website focuses on what you can buy and not on the ethics of creating the fish. GloFish® come in three bright colors, abnormal colors for the standardZebra Fish. But who wants normal when you can have a GloFish® in Starfire Red™ Zebra, Electric Green™ Zebra, and Sunburst Orange™ Zebra? According to their website, GloFish® were originally created for scientific purposes. The fish were supposed to maintain the appearance of the standard zebra fish unless the waters they lived in were polluted. The fluorescent glow was supposed to be a warning sign about what humans were doing to nature. The fish presently glow constantly, so the original purpose has not yet been reached. Or has it? (GloFish®)
Genetic diseases unfairly invade the lives of infants born around the world every day. Is it fair that their lives will be more limited than others or even cut short because of a microscopic error in their genes, something they had no control over? The research in bioengineering has the ability to give such children a chance at a more normal life. Infants may no longer die hooked up to hospital machines, and every child may one day have the chance to spend his or her first birthday outside hospital walls. But as Peter Parker, Spiderman, was once told, “With great power comes great responsibility.” The power to change lives for the better is being developed in labs across the country. The responsibility is to do no harm. To focus on cures rather than dollars is what scientists must do if humanity is to take a step forward without taking two back.
Works Cited
Atwood, Margaret. Oryx and Crake. New York: Anchor Books, 2003.GloFish®. 2007. Yorktown Technologies, L.P. 10 Nov. 2007 <http://www.glofish.com/about.asp>
“House Mouse, Mus Musculus” 10 Nov. 2007. 10 Nov. 2007 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus_musculus>
“Knockout Mice.” National Human Genome Research Institute. 24 Oct. 2007. 10 Nov. 2007 < http://www.genome.gov/12514551>
Ren, Yin. “Designer Babies: The Pros and Cons of Genetic Engineering.” MIT Undergraduate Research Journal. Volume 12 Spring 2005. Massachusetts Institute of Technology. 9 Nov. 2007 <http://web.mit.edu/murj/www/v12/v12-Features/v12-f4.pdf>
Trivedi, Bijal P. “Introducing ANDi, the First Genetically Modified Monkey.” Genome News Network 16 Jan. 2001. 10 Nov. 2007. <http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/01_01/ANDi.shtml>
No i meant unlikely.
They are all running with and and they aren't all owned by the same company, a few of the more credible ones are running with it too, i dont think they all would just jump on the band wagon, they know something is going on through sources but have no quotes from officials, and neither united or spurs have come out to reject it... i dont think there is smoke without fire, but i have a feeling its not as close as they are making out, but i do think it will happen, just not tomorrow.
what the bloody hell is going on?????
I think Berbatov's disinterested air in the pre-season games is enough to convince the papers that a deal will eventually be done. But I think every paper that has been saying that a deal will be done on day X, or Berbatov is on his way to Carrington, is full of shit. There's nothing to indicate they have any inside info.
Nothing.
I'm just reading "The Handmaid's Tale" by Margaret Atwood at the moment. Very interesting novel.
there is nothing to indicate that they dont have any, as journalists' they are fortunate to get passes inside the ground and shit like that, and some of them build up good reputations with people inside the club and im sure that some of the reports have got their information from valid sources and not just pulled from the air.
it's all a smokescreen. we're after henry..
Well the supposed quality papers, as reagards football anyway, the Daily Mail and Telegraph, have shown themselves to be bullshitting in the last couple of days.
Daily Mail:
i know what you mean, i just find it hard to believe that nothing is happening and that they are all just making up similar stories that he is close to singing.
even lou macari was talking as if we signed him last night, surely something is in the process, just not as far gone as some people think
even lou macari was talking as if we signed him last night, surely something is in the process, just not as far gone as some people think
I'm not going to read this thread again until it's over 7,000 posts and I bet even then there isn't one piece of credible news about this transfer.
i bet you do
There's like 10 pages more than last night.
What's the latest? Anything happen today? Cocks are still out?
What's the latest? Anything happen today? Cocks are still out?
Is that meant to be sarcastic?
i love the word smokescreen.
By the way, has any transfer actually taken place which was supposed to be a smokescreen? just wonderling like
By the way, has any transfer actually taken place which was supposed to be a smokescreen? just wonderling like
It's like when the Americans and Brits invaded Iraq because they said they had WMD. The logic that a tyrant like Sadam Hussein would have massive weapons was so overwhelming that everyone believes it must be true.
The logic of thinking that United and Spurs will do a deal before this weekend is so overwhelming that all the press feel confident to write a story on it. Fergie said he expected to buy a striker before the first league game, and Berbatov is the only striker we have been chasing, so the press could feel pretty secure in thinking that United must be close to a deal with Spurs.
But that does not mean it could not take another week or two as United and Spurs are not getting anywhere.
Relative to The Daily Star say, then the Daily Mail and Daily Telegraph's football coverage could be described as in the "quality" bracket.
feck me, I could make up rumours that would be more credible than the Daily Stars exclusives.
The M.E.N. is full of Berbatov stuff today, as though its a done deal.
There is also an article about Wenger saying that Henry would NEVER come to United.
There is also an article about Wenger saying that Henry would NEVER come to United.
in fairness it's all a smokescreen isn't it. We've definately got something up our sleeve. It must be an f-ing long sleeve mind
Something has gone wrong at sern.
The universe is imploding, and its starting here on the caff.
patience needed or else the caf is going to explode big-time.
has he signed yet? or bought any more from Greggs?
I dont know whether to blame levy, united.no or matin jol.....feck it ill just blame ronado.
Feckin' Platini
Funking Calderon
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