Berbatov to Sevilla?

Most expensive flop ever? Even more so than veron?

Though this season could hardly be seen as a flop, yet he's not trusted for the important games and has lost his place to hernandez. I know its a squad game but if you can't trust your 30million striker in the must win games, there's something wrong and the way i'd see it, for the price paid and the total output over the 3+ seasons he's been here, its not a great return. Some brilliant moments, mind.

Don't mind him staying even if he plays second fiddle to hernandez, but when he plays he has to deliver! If he's gonna be sold, we need to recoup as much as possible £15 million would do it for me - he is the leagues top scorer after all!

There must be something special with the "Scholesy" name.
 
Most expensive flop ever? Even more so than veron?

Though this season could hardly be seen as a flop, yet he's not trusted for the important games and has lost his place to hernandez. I know its a squad game but if you can't trust your 30million striker in the must win games, there's something wrong and the way i'd see it, for the price paid and the total output over the 3+ seasons he's been here, its not a great return. Some brilliant moments, mind.

Don't mind him staying even if he plays second fiddle to hernandez, but when he plays he has to deliver! If he's gonna be sold, we need to recoup as much as possible £15 million would do it for me - he is the leagues top scorer after all!

our top-scorer in the league is a flop, oh feck off with your shite.
 
How much do you expect to get for him with a year left on his contract? Especially if we want to get rid, which I'm not saying we do at all - But if he'll be shopped around, it's quite obvious.
 
Yeah honestly if he leaves now it'll be for the least amount we could have got for him during his United career, even though he came good this season and will be top scorer this season
 
We can extend his contract for a year without him being able to block it, so he'd still have 2 years left come this summer.
 
our top-scorer in the league is a flop, oh feck off with your shite.

I didn't say sell him, i didn't say he was a flop. It was a question and a suggestion, not one of fact. First thing, i was comparing him to veron in relation to price tag and overall delivery. I didn't say he was a flop per se, I was saying a flop overall in terms of his overall time at united when his price tag is taken into consideration. I did also mention that he had a good season and this season wasn't a problem, its been good. But i don't think he's repaid his price - not yet.

Is he worth the 30 million over the season's he's had so far? Jury still out; this season yes, overall, not yet, but he may well prove to come good over this and the next few.

My issue is how hernandez has taken over from him. Probably speaks more about hernandez than him, but i just feel more confident about winning games when hernandez is around, city or no city.

I have an opinion and i've stated it. If you don't like it, provide something constructive. Criticise the post, not the poster.

So ...feck you. ;)
 
We'd be fools to turn our nose up at an offer of 15 million or up.

And frankly, his stock will never be higher then at the end of the season.

He's 30...a few years from walking away on a Bosman and probably destined to be #3 in the next few years behind Rooney and Hernandez. If we get 15 million or thereabouts that will certainly soften the blow of his massive transfer.

I like Berba. But I certainly won't cry if we let him go in the summer provided we get a fair price for a striker who's scored 20+ goals in the top flight and on his day can be the best player on the pitch.
 
I would rather have Berbatov on the pitch/bench, than £15 million that may or may not be spent on someone who may or may not be a success.
 
I didn't say sell him, i didn't say he was a flop. It was a question and a suggestion, not one of fact. First thing, i was comparing him to veron in relation to price tag and overall delivery. I didn't say he was a flop per se, I was saying a flop overall in terms of his overall time at united when his price tag is taken into consideration. I did also mention that he had a good season and this season wasn't a problem, its been good. But i don't think he's repaid his price - not yet.

Is he worth the 30 million over the season's he's had so far? Jury still out; this season yes, overall, not yet, but he may well prove to come good over this and the next few.

My issue is how hernandez has taken over from him. Probably speaks more about hernandez than him, but i just feel more confident about winning games when hernandez is around, city or no city.

I have an opinion and i've stated it. If you don't like it, provide something constructive. Criticise the post, not the poster.

So ...feck you. ;)

the 30m price-tag is not his fault, its all thanks to Levy for ripping us off. yes Hernandez has done a great job for us but that does not mean we should get rid of Berbatov, he is still a quality player, if its a choice of keeping him or selling him on the cheap, I know which one I prefer....;)....Macheda, Welbeck and Diouf are all still very raw and it be asking too much of them to be our 3rd choice forward assuming Owen leave in the summer.
 
We sold van Nistelrooy for £10m to Real Madrid after he was a major success for us and in his prime. There is no way we will receive much more for Berbatov who hasn't really been as good as Ruud and approaches the last year of his current deal, especially as interested clubs would have noticed by then that he wasn't wanted here.
 
I can't believe this is even being discussed.

No way he is sold. When is the caf going to learn? United need four top class strikers, not two.

Just because Chicharito has had a recent run of good form, doesn't mean we won't need Berbatov and his goals again next season.

Fergie sign him up!
 
What happens if we sell berba and Hernandez goes and has an "Evans" next season?
 
To the people advocating the sale of Berba for £15 million, who do they suggest we can buy to replace him for that price ? Bent went for over £20 million, Carroll £35 million, Torres £50 million .

Odemwingie down at WBA would proably go for about £10 million if he was sold, not that I'm suggesting we buy him, just illustrating inflated player prices. I think we should kep Berba if he is happy to compete with Hernandez. Bring back Welbeck as our fourth choice as he is versatile and should be given the chance. I think Owen should be offloaded, Macheda given a Premiership loan as Welbeck was this season and Diouf sold to the highest bidder.
 
Welbeck could come back and at £15m-£20m we coule buy a much younger player from abroad, like Liverpool did with Suarez. I don't want Berbatov sold at all because I consider him excellent striker but there will be options.
 
Welbeck could come back and at £15m-£20m we coule buy a much younger player from abroad, like Liverpool did with Suarez. I don't want Berbatov sold at all because I consider him excellent striker but there will be options.

Llorente maybe..
 
Old timers here will know i wasn't orginally the one who claimed Kanoute was the better footballer :smirk:

:) But you're definately encouraging the silliness.

Hey, I'm not telling you what to say or what not to say...

Although, I will remind you... United community doesn't need this sort of stuff on the doorstep of two cups competitions.
 
We're not going to sell Berbatov because of the money (unless it's something stupid like 30m+). The only reason we'd sell him is if we actively want to sell him, either because he's unhappy being 3rd choice (which he seems to have become) or we want someone else (Welbeck?) to be 3rd choice. Both of which are very unlikely to happen.

Why anybody would think we'd want to sell him just because someone offered £10-15m is beyond me. We don't sell players because we need the money, we sell them because we don't want them anymore, of they don't want to be here.
 
We're not going to sell Berbatov because of the money (unless it's something stupid like 30m+). The only reason we'd sell him is if we actively want to sell him, either because he's unhappy being 3rd choice (which he seems to have become) or we want someone else (Welbeck?) to be 3rd choice. Both of which are very unlikely to happen.

Why anybody would think we'd want to sell him just because someone offered £10-15m is beyond me. We don't sell players because we need the money, we sell them because we don't want them anymore, of they don't want to be here.

Don't be silly, if we sold Berbatov it'd be for £15m max. That said, I agree that we don't need to sell - would only be if Berbatov wasn't interested in being a backup to Rooney & Chicharito
 
Rooney is almost certain starter if fit / not suspended but, Berba will be more than just a back up to Chicha. There are plenty of games a season you need the likes of Berbatov to play. Maybe he won't be for the "big" games where the 3 points count more than the 3 points you get at "small" games but, he'll important.

Not to mention as has been shown by Rooney, there will be some games he isn't available for where SAF wants to play lone striker and Chicha hasn't shown he is ready for that, Berbatov is our next best option in those situations.

After SAF so often says we need 3-4 good strikers on our books, that when last season our reliance on Rooney made us pay the price at the end of the season makes me think that SAF will ensure that next season we have all 3 of them playing / contributing so we aren't a "one man" team.

Makes no sense from a United perspective to sell him unless there is another Chicha, who costs very little out there somewhere that can reliably get your 15-20 goals (goals or assists). We aren't going to sell Berbatov and just buy another striker and possibly lose out a whole bunch of goals / class just to make a buck.
 
Don't be silly, if we sold Berbatov it'd be for £15m max. That said, I agree that we don't need to sell - would only be if Berbatov wasn't interested in being a backup to Rooney & Chicharito
My point is we wouldn't sell him just because someone offered £15m. The money won't make our decision unless it's a stupid amount.

If we decide we want to sell him, then yes we'd only be looking at around £15m or so. But if we don't want to sell him, it'll take a hell of a lot more than that to change our mind.