Bent to Villa for £18m

IrishLegend said:
... Players are only ever worth what people are prepared to pay for them, If Villa are prepared to pay 24m for Bent he's worth 24m.
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No. Clubs sometimes make expensive mistakes - that's obvious - and all transfers involve risks that sometimes don't pay off.
 
When will you people stop getting so shocked at the going market rates for players these days?


It's been like this for at least 3 years and is unlikely to change very soon.

A player's value is the point at which a buying club and a selling club meet in agreement. No higher, or lower.

Supply and demand.


A proven PL goalscorer for many lower/mid-table teams could be invaluable in a potential relegation scrap which, if lost, could cut revenues next year by £50m+

Get with the times.
 
KingMinger22 said:
When will you people stop getting so shocked at the going market rates for players these days?


It's been like this for at least 3 years and is unlikely to change very soon.

A player's value is the point at which a buying club and a selling club meet in agreement. No higher, or lower.

Supply and demand.


A proven PL goalscorer for many lower/mid-table teams could be invaluable in a potential relegation scrap which, if lost, could cut revenues next year by £50m+

Get with the times.
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Spot on.

When you consider the fact that 6m of the figure quoted for Bent are future add ons and if realised would actually benefit Villa, you can see that there is nothing remarkable about the Bent transfer.

United are going to be faced with the same situation when we make a move for an established player either domestically or in another league as well which I don't think will be to far off.
 
Sunderland boss Steve Bruce has hit out at Gerard Houllier concerning Aston Villa's move for Darren Bent.

There is bad blood between the clubs over the £18m switch of the England striker, with Sunderland chairman Niall Quinn suggesting Villa had approached the player long before the deal went through, although the Midlands club insist no approach had been made prior to the Black Cats' 1-1 draw with Newcastle on Sunday.

But Bruce says a top-class manager would have shown him the respect and courtesy of a phone call.

He also revealed Bent had wanted to move to Turkey last summer but the club averted the switch.

Bruce told Sky Sports News: "There's a lot of people bitterly upset and disappointed, and rightly so.

"My big disappointment of course is Gerard Houllier too who up until this time now, I still haven't had a phone call from.

"I would have thought out of respect and a manager of his status, I would have thought maybe a phone call from him to say 'Listen Steve, we're after your centre forward and your striker.'

"I would have thought, maybe that might have been the way forward, it usually is with the great managers I've had the pleasure to deal with in the past, that's usually the case.

"But in this, so the whole thing has disappointed us and I thought we'd averted it last summer - he (Bent) wanted to go to Turkey last summer and we averted it then.

"So, it's the timing for me - if I'd have known four weeks beforehand or five, six weeks beforehand from his agent or Darren that they were unhappy at the club and wanted to move on then I wouldn't be in a position that I'm in now, with ten days before the window ended and with an injury to Danny Welbeck, that's put us in the situation that we're in and it gives you very little time to try and do anything.

"So it's the timing of it and that's the disappointing thing - all Benty's thought of is himself but I suppose that's football and that's the way it is."

Asked if he was tempted to say no to the deal, he replied: "Yes of course we were, of course we were tempted.

"I think what shocked us all was the written transfer request with Benty that it was so brutal, you know.

"And then in my experience with him, what's the point of keeping someone who doesn't really want to be here.

"I have to say in the last few weeks we have all been scratching our heads saying 'has there been something wrong with Benty, he doesn't look himself'.

"But we didn't see it coming and, yes, we were quite within our right to do that, but in my experience of these things, what is the point?"
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I presume he wanted to 'better himself' in Turkey. The greedy bastard.
 
Who will Sunderland sign? They only have one fit senior striker at the moment :eek:
 
Man-United said:
Who will Sunderland sign? They only have one fit senior striker at the moment :eek:
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I think Bruce might go for Rodallega, good player shouldn't be too expensive and I think it was Bruce who originally signed him for Wigan so he obviosuly knows his qualities.

Sky also linking them with Pavlyuchenko but I don't think Harry would sell until he managed to bring in a striker himself.
 
Ricardo Fuller. A name that strikes fear into his own supporters' hearts.
 
Hypothetically, how good would Bent be if he'd gone to one of the big 3 a few years ago and played regularly? (Big 3 as in us, Chelsea or Arse - not Liverpool or City as Rafa / 10 other strikers arriving every transfer window would have fecked things up)

He's proven he can score goals in the PL at smaller sides.
 
Crustanoid said:
Hypothetically, how good would Bent be if he'd gone to one of the big 3 a few years ago and played regularly? (Big 3 as in us, Chelsea or Arse - not Liverpool or City as Rafa / 10 other strikers arriving every transfer window would have fecked things up)

He's proven he can score goals in the PL at smaller sides.
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He wouldn't have played regularly. His all-round game has never been anywhere near good enough to play for a big 3 club. He wasn't even good enough to play regularly for Spurs.

If the big 3 team, hypothetically, had no choice but to play him regularly then they wouldn't have stayed a big three team for long.
 
Looking at it, wouldn't Tuncay be a better fit than Fuller for Sunderland, given that they lack a bit of guile up front? Fuller would just end up playing the Benjani role - brought in to be the fourth choice striker, released a year later.
 
Crustanoid said:
Hypothetically, how good would Bent be if he'd gone to one of the big 3 a few years ago and played regularly? (Big 3 as in us, Chelsea or Arse - not Liverpool or City as Rafa / 10 other strikers arriving every transfer window would have fecked things up)

He's proven he can score goals in the PL at smaller sides.
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If he was consistantly played (and playing for a big club didn't phase him) he would inevitably have a lot scored more than he has playing sporadically for Tottenham and for Sunderland, meaning he would have comfortably scored more than Rooney or Drogba in the last 3-4 years.

I still think his overall game isn't as good as the aforementioned two, but if he was scoring 30 goals a season he'd be a fans favourite no doubt.
 
Think Fuller's a bit better than some give him credit for, he's very tricky. Am interested to see how he goes at Sunderland.
 
scumderland apparantly still owe Spurs part of the fee when they bought Bent and Villa are paying in stages over 3 years so Quinn hasn't got a fortune to spend on a replacement.....hence the signing of Fuller for £3m.
 
Fuller's quite a good footballer, but he doesn't make the best of his talents really. Still, for £3m, he's decent backup.
 
I think Fuller would be a decent signing tbh. Gives something different to what they have, is a big lump of a striker but also one who can play the ball well and score some pretty spectacular goals.
 
I've been saying it in this thread and I'll say it again. 18m is NOT too much for a player who guarantees you goals and will probably get them out of relegation trouble.

Goal on debut already. He'll be a quality signing for them imo.
 
He will keep them up with his goals which will make them their money back and then some.
 
The Taurean said:
If he manages to charge Villa to top 9-10, this will be a great bit of business by them. just as Sunderland did when they got Bent from Spurs.
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Which will still be idiotic considering how well they were doing with O'Neill. Club not willing to invest, so he goes, they drop from sixth to the relegation zone and spend 18m+ to get to 10th.
 
He should go to everton. He hasn't been there yet. He'd have to pay his own transfer fee mind.
 
The only top 6 side who could possibly sign him would be Liverpool

Not arsenals style to spend that kind of money

Not sure if this would happen with the huge amounts Kenny spent already - bent must be worth 20m plus (or 30 to kenny)
 
Doubt Liverpool would go for him having dropped all that quid on Carroll and Suarez (and Downing and Henderson).

What about Newcastle? QPR? Blackburn?

Those clubs have cash.
 
MrMarcello said:
Doubt Liverpool would go for him having dropped all that quid on Carroll and Suarez (and Downing and Henderson).

What about Newcastle? QPR? Blackburn?

Those clubs have cash.
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I doubt either of those clubs could spend 20m plus on one player.
 
Bent doesn't have to cost £20m+, especially if he really is out of favour at Aston Villa. He will be 28 soon and he relies on the physical part of his game a bit so wherever he goes, it might be his last serious move. I could see Villa letting him go for around £12m if they are really set to do that.
 
I wouldn't want him tbh. He's alrght if you're a side that wants to build your team around his qualities but otherwise he isn't worth the hassle. Most of his goals at Sunderland came from long diagonal balls over the top.

Can't play in a front 2 either.
 
I see no reason why he couldn't play in a front 2, just not with a similar type of forward.

He'd be absolutely ideal for Everton but they don't have the money. Fulham would be a good fit too.

He'll prob stay at Villa though.
 
He never functioned full stop at Spurs and when partnered with someone at Sunderland it was someone like Gyan or Campbell who are both way too similar.

If he's with a forward that will do the donkey work and/or operate in the hole he'd be fine.
 
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