Ben Shapiro

If anything, more and more saner/normal liberals are seeing how ridiculous some of these extreme SJW sorts are becoming. Some are definitely turning more conservative. I don't know how you think the influence has decreased when many believe Trump will still win the next election.
This again? We get it. Everyone who disagrees with you is a weirdo.
 
If anything, more and more saner/normal liberals are seeing how ridiculous some of these extreme SJW sorts are becoming. Some are definitely turning more conservative. I don't know how you think the influence has decreased when many believe Trump will still win the next election.

Because you'll vote for him
 
Don't agree at all. I think these people have been declining in influence the last two years, after a period of much higher influence after gamergate and Trump's election and that this decrease has coincided with extreme SJW sorts being increasingly active.

Encouraging, if so. No idea how you might measure that decline, mind you. Never mind attribute it to "extreme SJW sorts" being active.

On a side note, I was just listening to (or all people) Derren Brown talking about politics on the Russell Brand podcast and he gave the most concise definition for right wing vs left wing ideologies that I've heard so far. If you're right leaning, your priority is "protecting the group" if you're left-leaning, then your priority is compassion for the under-privileged. When you put it like that conservative politics aren't as inherently evil as they get portrayed by the left. Although it's definitely a lot more self-serving!

He also reckons the right are more electable because they can appeal to a wider range of moral trigger points. Respect for authority, the need for public order, personal accountability and so on. Whereas the left can really only appeal to your compassion/empathy. So they're fighting a bit of a losing battle. Especially when the media (mainstream or otherwise) consistently feeds us a diet of fear and external threats. In that context you're far more likely to revert to finding a way to protect the group than look for a way to expand that group and keep adding new under-privileged members.
 
Encouraging, if so. No idea how you might measure that decline, mind you. Never mind attribute it to "extreme SJW sorts" being active.
Yeah, I was giving my 'I reckon' in response to yours. If decent data exists I wouldn't know where to find it.
On a side note, I was just listening to (or all people) Derren Brown talking about politics on the Russell Brand podcast
You do listen to some shite, Pogue! I guess I do too, of a different flavour...
And to make my point again, someone like Shapiro would have no fame if all he did was debate normal liberals. It's back to my original point, he picks on outliers such as this woman and gains a following this way.
He didn't debate this woman though, did he?
 
Oh right ben Shapiro weaponized a word now I must not use it because king of the dictionary Shapiro has tainted it :wenger:
For the record, I was talking about Ben Shapiro, not you, as weaponizing those words in a manner so eloquently described by @Synco . I also didn't imply that a) Ben Shapiro is an expert in the English language or b) that one ought not to use specific words. Your response is disappointing.
 
For the record, I was talking about Ben Shapiro, not you, as weaponizing those words in a manner so eloquently described by @Synco . I also didn't imply that a) Ben Shapiro is an expert in the English language or b) that one ought not to use specific words. Your response is disappointing.

A lot of people have been on me for using the term "SJW" so I only assumed you meant to imply I am using another Ben Shapiro tactic to my advantage. My bad if its not what you meant.
 
It's funny that shamans got absolutely bodied by synco, one of the most low key posters, and kept digging.

I don't see many people laughing. Didn't realize we were boiling each other either, it's just a conversation. I'd like to hope all of us are adults who can have those without "boiling" or "roasting" each other?
 
I don't see many people laughing. Didn't realize we were boiling each other either, it's just a conversation. I'd like to hope all of us are adults who can have those without "boiling" or "roasting" each other?
Adults don't call people SJW's. As I feel is becoming increasingly clear to you.
 
I don't see many people laughing. Didn't realize we were boiling each other either, it's just a conversation. I'd like to hope all of us are adults who can have those without "boiling" or "roasting" each other?
Any chance of an adult conversation went out the window the moment you started griping about SJWs.
 
Honestly, never even occurred to me that it was about penises. Just a silly fake name.

Anyhoo, the general point here is that yer wan seems to be massively over-reacting to - at worst - a very mildly off-colour response from someone who was feeling harassed and under pressure.

I don't agree with @shamans on many things but the sort of hysterical over-reaction you see in that video - combined with the knee-jerk reaction to defend her from people who share her progressive politics - is absolutely increasing the influence of horrible toads like Ben Shapiro.

Nail on head, sir.
 
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Anyone who likes Ben Shapiro because some random YouTube girl got a bit too feisty for their taste was never an ally to begin with.
I’d imagine it’s less simplistic than that and more of a cumulative thing, but I’d say it has to be a factor.

He’s preying on people who relate to what he’s saying because they’ve come across a few overly sensitive idiots.
 
I’d imagine it’s less simplistic than that and more of a cumulative thing, but I’d say it has to be a factor.

He’s preying on people who relate to what he’s saying because they’ve come across a few overly sensitive idiots.

Like I said, those people arent allies to begin with. Anyone who says "you know I generally support women's rights and LGBT stuff but I saw this wacko on YouTube" and then becomes a Ben Shapiro fan? They were always a dickhead.
 
Like I said, those people arent allies to begin with. Anyone who says "you know I generally support women's rights and LGBT stuff but I saw this wacko on YouTube" and then becomes a Ben Shapiro fan? They were always a dickhead.

Pretty much, people should be able to disagree with people they feel have gone a bit far without completely changing their whole moral viewpoint and jumping towards a well known liar like Shapiro.
 
Like I said, those people arent allies to begin with. Anyone who says "you know I generally support women's rights and LGBT stuff but I saw this wacko on YouTube" and then becomes a Ben Shapiro fan? They were always a dickhead.
Fair enough, I still think those people exist, even if they’re not ‘true liberals’.
 
Adults don't call people SJW's. As I feel is becoming increasingly clear to you.

Any chance of an adult conversation went out the window the moment you started griping about SJWs.

I called the woman in that video (and anyone who defends her actions) an SJW. I'm sorry if that is offensive but to me that's an extreme viewpoint. I haven't called anyone else anything similar for any sort of views. But I guess I got "boiled" so all is good.
 
Okay.

It's not a thing I just worry about. It's a thing I've seen and has happened to me. People who swear they care about LGBTQ rights, but prefer not to go on about it, disappear the moment you come out.
Oh yeah, if they’re not prepared to back it up then feck them, you don’t need the negativity.
 

That comic strip is just one portion of the issue. It's true but so is what you just did, claiming that guy was sexually harassing that woman for saying hugh mungus.

Actually, @Eboue is like Trumps personal campaigner on the CAF. Every political post of mine is followed by him categorizing me as a "Trump voter" as if he wants me to vote for him. Just because there are stupid conservatives doesn't mean there are a lot of people who are just put off by far left tactics of grouping every person that doesn't agree with them as a "Trump supporter".
 
That comic strip is just one portion of the issue. It's true but so is what you just did, claiming that guy was sexually harassing that woman for saying hugh mungus.

Actually, @Eboue is like Trumps personal campaigner on the CAF. Every political post of mine is followed by him categorizing me as a "Trump voter" as if he wants me to vote for him. Just because there are stupid conservatives doesn't mean there are a lot of people who are just put off by far left tactics of grouping every person that doesn't agree with them as a "Trump supporter".
Us extremist SJW's struggle to tell the difference between you and Trump voters too. Not just Eboue, on this occasion.
 
He's using that name to refer to his penis because he wants to use a sexual joke to wind up a woman. It's sexual harassment.

Get out of it you soft sod.

If he would have replied ‘Go suck a dick’ when she asked his name, that’s not sexual harassment.

To suggest that her mental leap of Hugh Mungus to be a reference to his penis is, is nuts.

Obviously ignoring the fact that she labelled him a ‘token’ or ‘token face’ is far more a racial slur than any perceived penis reference.

That woman is the type of person that society needs to ignore, or tell to calm the fcuk down. She’s a silly little jumped up nonsensical idiot that’s created an incident and caused a scene, impacting a whole room full of people, because she’s acted like a moron.
 
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Us extremist SJW's struggle to tell the difference between you and Trump voters too. Not just Eboue, on this occasion.

That's the problem that. You can't distinguish. Because I think that woman was not sexually harassed, I am a Trump supporter.

Yeah why would anyone think shamans is a trump supporter?

Yeah ignore that I posted a thousand times later that was said just for trolling Sanders fans.
 
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If your post was to convince me of something then the only thing it did was reassure me of how certain sections of the public think.
Lord knows I've tried.

Btw, you'd be amazed how much serious dissent there can be among people inside these "certain sections of the public", but it's no option for me to discuss that inside the political framework you're offering.
 
Of course it isn’t. It would be many things.

- Rude
- Vulgar
- Offensive
- Nasty
- etc

Not sexual harassment though. Not even remotely close to it either. It’s just the use of a sexual word.
No, the idea, as with the 'Hugh Mungous' line would be to sexually harass a woman. It's a power move where a man uses sex as a threat to a woman he feels threatened by.