Really struggling to see what is wrong with this article. Tell me a more exciting moment than Giggs being manager two years ago and I'll be impressed.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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If you'd told me 5 years ago that injunction-using Ryan Giggs would become a media darling i'd have called you mad. They all seem to want it.
And the answer to why they want it is pretty obvious too.
The fact you think that is a good article.. jesus. Nothing wrong with supporting Giggs even though I think its nuts but actually admiring that article. You must be sniffing the strong stuff.
I nearly choked on my breakfast when I read that.
I hope it wasn't on Twiggs erection.. he thought it was the best thing he's read since 50 shades of grey.
That's not true; it was closer to 50/50, with the ayes in front. A lot can change in six months. If the poll had been conducted in the six months prior to his meltdown, I would think he would have been comfortably in front. So, perhaps, now that he isn't in the limelight and our circumstances have worsened, people are prepared write off those bad months as a blip.
Personally, I still don't like him. I voted yes because I think he is what we need at this time to stay relevant.
I read that article thinking it was the best thing I'd read in a while and look at the reaction it got
I thought you'd written it! The scorched earth line in particular.
Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE for you to appoint Giggs on a four and a half year contract.
Is Holt right when he says you are the most sentimental club in the world?
Does Holt never look at forums like this one? Far from energising the fan base, most people on here would be in despair if Giggs were appointed. And it turns out "emotion" was they key to success over the last thirty years - nothing to do with hiring a proven manager who combined utterly ruthless dedication to winning with unparalleled man-management skills (and backed by large sums of transfer money of course).
Despite what you may occasionally read on here, no. And that's without mentioning the sell your grandmother types who own the club.
Am I the only one that finds the predictability of your WUMing to be boring? Not clever, not cheeky, not original, just purely contrarian and obvious.
Where does the idea that appointing Giggs is what the fans want come from? It seems to me, based on this forum, at best, fans are split.
That article is an abomination and that's coming from someone who thinks Giggs becoming manager would be exciting (Although how long that excitement would last is another question altogether).
He is deluded. Ignore him. So full of that Giggsy to United miracle and United long term manager success story, jesus. He d rather Moyes gets another shot than Mou, says it all.
Didn't a similar 'boot room' approach help sink Liverpool? You should never make decisions based on sentiment.
Let's just say that I'm adjusting my Alice band before a long day of posting on the caf.
I have a differing opinion. I'm not WUMming, it's not always contrarian it's just a differing opinion.
Deluded I will accept.
It's a differing opinion on absolutely everything though. And some of it is transparently WUMing. I saw your name a lot in the past but never really noticed your posts until this week. They have been uniformly contrarian. Are you even a United fan?
what are my contrarian views? That I don't like Mourinho and want him nowhere near the club?
I can't be bothered to go and find any of them to be honest. But I've seen a ton. It's just all so transparent and boring.
Twigginater is not a wum. He's always been very consistent in his opinions.
Im not trying to be nice, just that he has been wrong for a long time.
Im not trying to be nice, just that he has been wrong for a long time.
Oh yes it did. Holt is an ABU bastard. The fans who want this 100% are on RAWK and Bluemoon - no way he's looking at United forums. I've looked at most of them - would say between 90-95% of posters don't want this to happen.
It's crazy this Giggs thing with the press. His press people must be paying them is all I can think of. And trying to get us to have the Neville brothers and such in key positions in the club for what? Jobs for the boys don't bloody work. Let them go out and show what they've got. If they can get sustained success over a period of several years then maybe consider them. The club is in a delicate moment, and you want to add inexperience to this situation? It's like United is a team in the 10th division and not a global organisation with serious responsibilities to sponsors, shareholders, a debt to repay, not to mention the fans - and these idiot journalists expect us to make big decisions on sentiment?
No wonder our football at national level sucks - it's all about who you know and nothing to do with ability and whether or not you've earned your position.
Sorry about the rant but on a personal level I can't stand these jobs for the boys shit - you must bloody earn your way. None of this getting something because of who you know. It's disgusting.
Twigginater is not a wum. He's always been very consistent in his opinions.
Im not trying to be nice, just that he has been wrong for a long time.
Exactly!
That's amazing!
It's amazing that someone can get paid for a piece like that. Giggs would 'breathe new life' and bring back the emotion and passion to the club? But Mourinho wouldn't?
No I don't think so.
The most exciting game I've been to in the last five years was when Giggs managed (in potentially his last game). It really was an amazing memory. Obviously if we did well with Giggs it would be better than doing well with Mourinho.
It's tiring. And non-logical.
Dare I say, even Glaston is less tiring as his wums are so very subtle, yet effective.
I dont see the need to be constantly be fishing for a reaction from people. What's the point
Among all the pro Giggs nonsense in the media, Stan Collymore wrote this in last Sunday's Mirror: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/stan-collymore-manchester-united-louis-7279193
What an utterly abysmal article by Holt.
It's absurd. Like you say, going by what people on here feel, opinions are split at best. In fact, I'd say a majority think giving the job to Giggs is a bad idea.
Now that is an absolute nonsense article. "I look into his eyes and wonder what is going on"
Collymore is a moron. Atleast Giggs has some experience in coaching, Terry has nothing, yet he says appointing Giggs would be an horrible mistake whilst Chelsea should fast track Terry. Makes no sense, I don't want Giggs as our manager but atleast have some logic.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-must-keep-john-terry-7324945
Can't believe Collymore of all people writing sense. Though he does go on to spoil it talking nonsense about if we were losing games 5-2 and such the fans would be happy. We now know that is bullshit because fans seem happy for Jose to come in as long as we win. Never mind that he might be just as boring and won't have us going into matches playing all out attacking football just to lose the game.
Fans don't like boring football but worse than that they don't like losing.
Also that article by Oliver Holt is pathetic.
There is a reason the media is pushing Giggs. Its a win-win situation for them. Let's say we appoint Giggs and he fails, they can all then write articles about how we made the same mistakes as Liverpool and are living in the past and if he succeeds, they can claim that the media's push for him lead to United's glory.
Think that's way off the mark, actually. It's an ambiguous statement to begin with, of course, since it's never obvious what a "club" is. If what he suggests is that our fans are the most sentimental in the world, and would welcome any decision which led to an upsurge in "emotion" where the football team is concerned, he's clearly mistaken.
And to suggest that our owners, who ultimately call the shots, are sentimental - would be so ridiculous that I'm sure even Holt doesn't mean to imply this. Fairly sure, at least.
I've said so many times: If the club are pushing this Giggs thing, it isn't because they're sentimental. It's because they consider him a market asset of some kind or another.
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