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Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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Actually no surprise that Bob hates Mourinho. The teams he supports i.e Liverpool and Barcelona are the two which Mourinho doesn't like. Has a good reason to be bitter tbf.
 
Love the excitement of getting Klopp after a relegation battle but Jose is past it because he replaced Lukaku with Costa and KDB with Cesc a few years back.
Both key players in walking the league last year.

:lol: woosh!
 
It's a bizarre argument from Bob, Mourinho's Madrid scored a record amount of times and beat an incredible Barca team (maybe the best club side ever) to the title and the Spanish cup (iirc)... The only criticism one can have of Jose is this season going to the dogs, for reasons which I'm not sure we'll ever know for sure as things went wrong behind the doors that we can't be properly privy with.

What about his poor third season? What about his poor first season at Chelsea were he lost out to an average City side and defensively vulnerable Liverpool side?

Post Inter, Mourinho still managed to win two league titles than what Liverpool have done in the last twenty six years.



Watch him ignore this now. He's a pro at talking nonsense.

What's to address? He's factually incorrect, Lukaku wasn't really replaced by Costa when he was there the season before and loaned out because they had a collection of OAPs while Cesc was bought to play a different position than KDB.
 
Actually no surprise that Bob hates Mourinho. The teams he supports i.e Liverpool and Barcelona are the two which Mourinho doesn't like. Has a good reason to be bitter tbf.
Oh now it makes sense why he thinks Lukaku should've been playing instead of Ba... who can forget the slip
 
I suppose Klopp is rubbish due to hm having a number of shocking seasons a relegation fight.
 
What about his poor third season? What about his poor first season at Chelsea were he lost out to an average City side and defensively vulnerable Liverpool side?

You could make this argument for plenty of managers who often have not just one but several terrible seasons, like Wenger, and to a lesser extent, Fergie when Mourinho first arrived and subsequently had to change the way he approached the league because of Jose's arrival at Chelsea. When all said and done, Mourinho has far more amazing years than he does poor ones.
 
Who has had a great 3rd season? This is brought up as if Jose trails behind his peers in this regard..
 
You could make this argument for plenty of managers who often have not just one but several terrible seasons, like Wenger, and to a lesser extent, Fergie when Mourinho first arrived and subsequently had to change the way he approached the league because of Jose's arrival at Chelsea. When all said and done, Mourinho has far more amazing years than he does poor ones.

Agree. The key thing is his amazing years are far more aligned with the start of his career. Compare his seasons before Real Madrid to after and his ratio is much worse.

His 2nd season at Real Madrid was top class, nothing else - even his title winning season at Chelsea wasn't overly impressive given they stopped performing in January.
 
What reason is there to start Demba Ba, a finished Drogba/Eto'o or Loïc Rémy over Lukaku? What are these variables?

Are they the same variables that led to Ordinary Oscar or workhorse Willian over De Bruyne? I'd love to know what they are.
To shatter Scouse dreams.
 
Bob Loblaw has a hatred for Mourinho. I hate it when football fans try to discredit great managers. Mourinho is quite simply one of the best managers of the last 20 years. He's been successful at every club he's been to and I think he's a perfect fit for us. Bring on next season! :drool:
 
Bob Loblaw has a hatred for Mourinho. I hate it when football fans try to discredit great managers. Mourinho is quite simply one of the best managers of the last 20 years. He's been successful at every club he's been to and I think he's a perfect fit for us. Bring on next season! :drool:

I despise him but no one has really given a reasonable reply to why a manager would prefer Demba Ba and co to Lukaku or Oscar to De Bruyne.
 
Who has had a great 3rd season? This is brought up as if Jose trails behind his peers in this regard..
I think Klopp won his first Bundesliga title with Dortmund in his third season. Guardiola won La Liga and the Champions League in his third season at Barcelona and could win the treble in his third and final season at Bayern. Pellegrini for that matter might win the Capital One Cup and the Champions League in his third season at Man City.
 
Agree. The key thing is his amazing years are far more aligned with the start of his career. Compare his seasons before Real Madrid to after and his ratio is much worse.

His 2nd season at Real Madrid was top class, nothing else - even his title winning season at Chelsea wasn't overly impressive given they stopped performing in January.

Quoting this for when he wins United our second and third treble. ;):angel:
 
Agree. The key thing is his amazing years are far more aligned with the start of his career. Compare his seasons before Real Madrid to after and his ratio is much worse.

His 2nd season at Real Madrid was top class, nothing else - even his title winning season at Chelsea wasn't overly impressive given they stopped performing in January.

If you look at his win ratio at Madrid, it's incredibly high, it's the highest of his career.
 
I despise him but no one has really given a reasonable reply to why a manager would prefer Demba Ba and co to Lukaku or Oscar to De Bruyne.
Only Mourinho can answer that. Come on, we're not talking about a Paul Lambert or Tim Sherwood type of manager here. We're talking about one of the best mangers in the world. His record proves that. He has a weird way of working but the results on the pitch is all I care about and Mourinho get's results. He's been successful at every club he's been to.
 
If you look at his win ratio at Madrid, it's incredibly high, it's the highest of his career.

Comparison of great to non-great season ratio, not win ratio. High win ratio is expected at Real Madrid - Zidane currently has the highest win ratio of any Madrid manager ever (granted he hasn't been there long).
 
Lot's of talk on here about Jose and youth. I thought I would share my perspective.

Jose is a proven winner. He has 8 league trophies, 4 cups and 2 CL trophies.

Now he has never lasted long at a club and this might be because of the pressure he creates for success. He demands his players execute his instructions and earn their starts. It is my thoughts he really doesn't care how old you are and this willingness to follow his instructions, not age are the reasons some players do not make it on his teams. Here are some articles with snippets for your consideration...

http://www.givemesport.com/517454-jose-mourinho-proves-critics-wrong-with-youth-policy
Teenagers Carlos Alberto, Hugo Almeida and Bruno Moraes featured heavily side Mourinho's side, as well as Hugo Luz and Helda Postiga aged 20. Jose Bosingwa, Cândido Costa and Ricardo Costa also contributed, aged 21.

Petr Čech, 22 at the time, Joe Cole, aged 21 and Arjen Robben, 20, were all star players for Mourinho. Salomon Kalou, 20 and John Obi Mikel, 17, also featured in Mourinho's squad.



http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journa...ea-look-to-inter-for-the-real-mourinho-legacy
Such was his impact on the Nerazzurri that after Claudio Ranieri – once a bitter rival – took charge of Inter in late 2011, he claimed Mourinho should have a statue built in his honour at the club’s training ground. However, while the incredible Treble of 2010 was an immense achievement, it was for the work done behind the scenes which the affable Roman was referring to. Mourinho completely revitalised and invigorated Inter on all fronts, a point not lost in a recent report on youth systems by the European Club Association.



https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/48yc0e/jose_mourinhos_close_friend_dispels_notions_he/
For instance, at Real Madrid, Jose called 20 young players of the 'cantera' (youth academy) to make their debut in the first squad. And that doesn't include the young Frenchman Raphael Varane.



So as far as I am concerned Jose will play to win and he will play the players willing to follow his instructions and fight for their spot during training.

I am okay with that.
 
Comparison of great to non-great season ratio, not win ratio. High win ratio is expected at Real Madrid - Zidane currently has the highest win ratio of any Madrid manager ever (granted he hasn't been there long).

By all standards Mourinho had two great seasons with Madrid.
 
cheers mate. How has he been playing this season?

After a very good U21 Euro where he was player of the tournament, he got injured in pre season, was a little rusty when he came back and began to recover his form in the final third of the season. Even so he has only been 3rd best midfielder at Sporting. First is João Mário and then Adrien.
 
Potchetinno was sacked from Espanyol, who were in last place. Simeones record before Atletico was mixed. Klopp was poor last year.

But Mourinho has poor four months and people bang on about it.
 
Potchetinno was sacked from Espanyol, who were in last place. Simeones record before Atletico was mixed. Klopp was poor last year.

But Mourinho has poor four months and people bang on about it.
They really don't like him.
 
Because he is the only great manager ever to get the sack. The way Chelsea have performed in recent weeks suggests there is something wrong at that club other than just Jose.

There is obviously something wrong with chelsea but the results mourinho was getting in the first half of the season was just shocking. I mean LVG is bad but what Maureen did with Chelsea that is in a league of its own. That it hapoened after they were champions that makes it even worse. If a manager then cant have the full support of his players I have serious questions about his people management skills.

He is a very antagonizing person and if things arent going his way he can be outright toxic. His decisions in the transfermarket are outright weird, alienating a player like KDB in the proces. He is not a manager that likes to give young players a chance and exciting young players is about the only good thing about united atm.

There are plenty of reaso.s why maureen isnt an obvious choice for the job. Also there are other alternatives out there than eitjer LVG, Giggs or Maureen.
 
By all standards Mourinho had two great seasons with Madrid.

First or third being the other great one?

I'd have it as one great season (2nd one), one good considering it was first season, and one very poor one.
 
Ancelotti's been sacked by Juve, Real and Chelsea to name a few, can't be a quality manager by that line of thought.

But not because he had them playing relegation style football. Clubs can be crazy to sack their manager but the way Mourinho had Chelsea performing he deserved the sack more than anyone.
 
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