The first season, +100 goals and 92pts, they are only 4pts from Barcelona. The next season Barcelona register 91 pts.
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The first season, +100 goals and 92pts, they are only 4pts from Barcelona. The next season Barcelona register 91 pts.
This has been said multiple times (about him not giving youth a chance), but look at the clubs he has been at, 2 of them especially. Chelsea and Real Madrid have the most trigger happy owners in Abrhamovic and Perez ever. They demand instant success and maybe that's why he didn't want to risk it. I fully support that when he comes here he will be given the licence to bring in youth more and will do that.
Only mourinhos issues seem to be detrimental in his relationships with club board and players in the long run.
I agree. I wouldn't base any managers success or lack of after managing those two clubs.
Can't believe a 92pt season with 100+ goals, winning the Copa del Rey (after 2 trophyless seasons if you ignore the supercopa which I assume is like a community shield) and reaching the semi final of the CL for the first time in 7 years is now only considered only a good season and not great!
Mourinho seems to be held to extremely harsh standards
Pellegrini was sacked for getting 96 points the season before. They both did a decent job but the points total is deceiving - getting above 90 points in England is incredible but getting it with Real Madrid in La Liga isn't an amazing achievement, it's expected.
Maybe it is because before Madrid he was seen as the one living being able to stop Barcelona but when people realized that he couldn't, they decided that it was because he wasn't great anymore instead of acknowledging that Barcelona are freakishly good.
Pellegrini had a a great season and he was sacked because Perez considered that his personality wasn't special enough for Madrid.
Some people even want to blame him for the incompetence of Benitez, apparently Rafa did so badly because Jose burnt out the players winning Serie A's only Treble ever.
I think he didn't deserve to be sacked but great is too much. Barcelona got 100 points without a manager for the half the season, it's easy enough to rack up the points with the amount of money they've spent on their squad at Madrid and Barça.
Mourinho had a good season, mostly for getting Madrid to a further stage of the Champions League than they'd reached for a while, but I don't think it was a great one.
Let's ignore the small problem of going out of the CL in early March.
See my next post.
It's not as easy as you make it out to be. Barcelona during this period have been one of the best club teams of all time so maybe it has changed the perception. Their points are the ones in the brackets
76 - Cappello (76)
85 - Cappello (67)
78 - Schuster/Ramos (87)
96 - Pelegrini (99)
92 - Mourinho (96)
100 - Mourinho (91)
85 - Mourinho (100)
87 - Ancellotti (87)
Fair enough, didn't see t when I replied
What's he supposed to do?
He lost out in the league and champions league to one of the greatest sides ever.
Even Fergie would have struggled against them. But carry on Bob trying to put his achievements down.
I'm not putting anything down. I said he did a good job in his first season.
There's a different between a fair evaluation and rewriting history to arselick. He did about as much as could have been expected in his first year, hence it was good. Not going beyond expectations isn't great.
Rediculous.
Probably true but could we say the same for Mourinho and le decima for Madrid. What about the foundation SAF left for Moyes, Houlier for Benitez, Rogers for Klopp. Every manager leaves something for the next wether it's a foundation for success or failure and I think it's kind of irrelevant when talking about the success of one person.
You are dead right, Mourinho turned them in to an organized machine after the scattergun approach to signings when Abramovich came in. That is his quality but clubs like Chelsea and Madrid cannot sustain this because some players are more important then the manager in the eyes of the owner or president.
I do feel United is set up perfectly for what Mourinho has been searching for, a big reason why he has always been respectful and complimentary towards us. He will find a home here and will uphold the traditions of this club. We are very lucky and the future is bright.
Well Mourinho/Chelsea and Liverpool/Barca obviously despise each other.
Liverpool stopped Mourinho 's Chelsea from reaching a CL final twice.
Mourinho stopped Liverpool in 2014 from winning their 1st league in 24 years at a time when they actually looked unstoppable.
Chelsea and Barca also have enough CL history between them.
Barca advanced to CL final in 2011 by beating Mourinho 's Madrid in semis.
Barca Won 2 league titles while he was at Madrid, he also won 1.
He won the CDR in 2011 and as a result stopped Barca from winning another treble
And the most crucial one:
He stopped Barca reaching the CL final in 2010 when a potential Barca win in the final would have meant Barca winning a CL in Bernabeu AND winning 3 CLs in a row.
A bit funny actually all that.
So a lot of subjective opinions can result when these parties comment on each other.
Liverpool stopped Mourinho 's Chelsea from reaching a CL final twice.
Mourinho stopped Liverpool in 2014 from winning their 1st league in 24 years at a time when they actually looked unstoppable.
Chelsea and Barca also have enough CL history between them.
Barca advanced to CL final in 2011 by beating Mourinho 's Madrid in semis.
Barca Won 2 league titles while he was at Madrid, he also won 1.
He won the CDR in 2011 and as a result stopped Barca from winning another treble
And the most crucial one:
He stopped Barca reaching the CL final in 2010 when a potential Barca win in the final would have meant Barca winning a CL in Bernabeu AND winning 3 CLs in a row.
A bit funny actually all that.
So a lot of subjective opinions can result when these parties comment on each other.
Same with Ferguson and Pogba, Benitez and Alonso, Wenger and Van Persie, Rogers and Suarez. I could honestly on forever. De Bruyne probably should of been kept but Chelsea cashed in, something they have been doing very regularly the last few years. Lukaku's performance yesterday said it all, very good young player but his goals and best games came playing for West Brom and Everton, what does that tell you about his level at this moment in time.
Or sell him for a world record, 90 million should do it. Worth it in my opinion as David will win them more games than Bale.
Steve Gerrard Gerrard
He slipped on his fecking arse
He gave it to Demba Ba
Steve Gerrard Gerrard.
That.Is.Why.Mr.Loblaw.
Just to settle my curiousity.....
If Mourinho becomes United manager, does that mean there will be United supporters on here, that actually like a Liverpool manager above a United one?
If Mourinho becomes United manager, does that mean there will be United supporters on here, that actually like a Liverpool manager above a United one?
It's not hardJust to settle my curiousity.....
If Mourinho becomes United manager, does that mean there will be United supporters on here, that actually like a Liverpool manager above a United one?
If Gary glitter managed Liverpool it would same answer over Jose for me
Not for a GK. He probably has a 30 million release clause after that debacle last summer.
Sorry but, I find that ridiculous.
Just to settle my curiousity.....
If Mourinho becomes United manager, does that mean there will be United supporters on here, that actually like a Liverpool manager above a United one?
Brave new world..
Presumably that is already the case with the clowns that want United to lose the Cup final and/or top 4 place so Van Gaal gets sacked?Just to settle my curiousity.....
If Mourinho becomes United manager, does that mean there will be United supporters on here, that actually like a Liverpool manager above a United one?
It's a bit of a stupid over exaggeration to prove a point for certain!.
Imagine if Rafa or Dalglish became our manager.
Don't tell me, some would still prefer them to Mourinho!
I find Mourinho extremely likeable, I don't understand the hate towards him. He's a character, he's not boring, and he's a great manager.
Seriously?
You'd like a peodophile over your own club's manager? Jesus.
But he wears shiny jackets, it has to count for something.
How come you hate him so much?
The only manager I find annoying was Dalglish for his behaviour in the Evra-Suarez thing. I can't really remember Mourinho doing anything to make him so hated unless you are a Liverpool, Barcelona or Arsenal fan where the list is probably quite long
Same here. He's always been respectful to United and he is funny
Mourinho respects Fergie and United.
I'm sure he will get us up back to the top again.
I'm sure he will get us up back to the top again.
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If Chelsea can get 50 mil for David Luiz Ed can get at least 60 for De Gea. We are selling our best player after all, a truly world class keeper with 15 years ahead of him.
Ffs Randall
You are saying you would rather a child molester instead of probably the best manager in the world to manage our club? Never mind Rashford and TFM, the 12 year olds would be on the bench, how is that for giving youth a chance.
20 quid
He meant 20 quid to each member of the Caf - hope he has plenty of savings
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