Moriarty
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What did they say ?
The usual tripe. "Giggs knows United" and suchlike.
What did they say ?
Moyes looked like he didn't have a care in the world up until the trigger was pulled.
LVG knows football management is a doggy dog world. We started discussions with him while Moyes was still thinking he was getting a comfy 6 yearsOnly thing I would say is Jose is being a massive dick to his mentor if he knows he is coming and LVG is still none the wiser
Not that I really care about that
MuppetIm not. Its a done deal. Move on.
Sorry butLVG knows football management is a doggy dog world. We started discussions with him while Moyes was still thinking he was getting a comfy 6 years
LVG knows football management is a doggy dog world. We started discussions with him while Moyes was still thinking he was getting a comfy 6 years
Sorry but
Or you could factor in the evolution of football. Tis what makes SAF special in Arsene Wengers eyes. His ability to continuously adapt to the changing demands of the game or changing times. There aren't many managers who have stayed relevant for 20 years or at least had the success they enjoyed in one decade, a decade later. They will typically end up managing national sides. So could that be an example of them losing their touch?It is. Van Gaal has been a great manager, and one of the best of his generetion. At 69, he's evidently lost his touch and well past his best. There's supposedly a big difference between him at Ajax and him at United.
He looked like a ghost from Christmas to his sacking. There were even threads made about how much he had aged in appearance during his stint with us.As for people saying Van Gaal will stay because he seems "relaxed", Moyes looked like he didn't have a care in the world up until the trigger was pulled. Apparently he was " astonished" to have been sacked..
He looked like a ghost from Christmas to his sacking. There were even threads made about how much he had aged in appearance during his stint with us.
He was privately said to be astonished though and he thought he had at least a year. Can't blame him for being ugly as feck
Jose better be coming it's only that thought that's even keeping me give a damn
The idea of LVG or Giggs in charge next season is too depressing for words
Jose is already a done deal for me. That's what I keep telling myself anyway otherwise I'd go insane. Not even contemplating Giggs either for that exact same reason.
So... Pep is doing a lovely job in Bayern today isn't he?
We need someone to counter that, and his name is Mourinho. Can you imagine Giggs or LVG turning things around like Pep did today? Absolutely not.
I think itll be this come what may, personally. So on the negative side, even if we got spanked 0-7 tonight and basically collapsed for the rest of the season and came in 8th or something, he will be here till the end of the season and will leave "by mutual consent" in the close season. On the positive side, even if we finish the season strongly and win a cup and get into the top 4 or better, the same will happen.Not sure why you some of you are still insisting on imagining a next season under LvG. It is masochism?
You can relax, of course van Gaal won't be managing United next season.
He'll be fired as soon as CL quali is impossible, because apparently that's when Utd fire their managers, quite probably due to some financial ramifications.
Or maybe, if he doesn't produce another embarrassing defeat (he will though), they'll allow him to stay on until the end of the season to give the whole affair some sort of dignified paint job.
In any case you can bet your arses your board has long since been feverishly looking for a new manager, and it really sounds like it's going to be José.
I would feel sorry for you if it wasn't so damn gratifying and entertaining to see you go down the drain straight into the gutter.
Agreed. This squad is not as bad as its being made out to be. One striker for more depth is the biggest requirement however in most other positions we have players that could be playing alot better given a better manager, tactics and style of play.
I think Ferguson and Mourinho could even have won the league with this current squad this season.
Fergusons not coming back so we should be going all out for Mourinho. I see no other person in the world that will come in next season and challenge for the title immediately.
Whilst I am not sure that we would win the league with this squad, I honestly thought we would be comfortably in the top 4 at this stage and still in the CL. Oh well, let's see how much we crumble before the LVG apologists come up with another crazy argument saying LVG should be credited with our success 10 years down the line.
Hope you are right buddyI dont think that LVG will remain next season. However if he does then rest assured that Giggs will succeed him after that
Considering that Giggs chances at getting the job probably relied on LVG having a successful 3 years... It doesn't say much for giggs' ability. People say LVG just wouldn't listen but he let Mourinho have a lot of control at Barcelona because he found him impressive.I dont think that LVG will remain next season. However if he does then rest assured that Giggs will succeed him after that
Considering that Giggs chances at getting the job probably relied on LVG having a successful 3 years... It doesn't say much for giggs' ability. People say LVG just wouldn't listen but he let Mourinho have a lot of control at Barcelona because he found him impressive.
Hope you are right buddy
Whilst I am not sure that we would win the league with this squad, I honestly thought we would be comfortably in the top 4 at this stage and still in the CL. Oh well, let's see how much we crumble before the LVG apologists come up with another crazy argument saying LVG should be credited with our success 10 years down the line.
I would say LVG has been around the block for far too long to be this naive, he knows the game is up and is only seeing out the season because of a technicality with Mourinho's non compete or that the club can't make up their minds on what to do AFTER him!Only thing I would say is Jose is being a massive dick to his mentor if he knows he is coming and LVG is still none the wiser
Not that I really care about that
I dont think that LVG will remain next season. However if he does then rest assured that Giggs will succeed him after that
Considering that Giggs chances at getting the job probably relied on LVG having a successful 3 years... It doesn't say much for giggs' ability. People say LVG just wouldn't listen but he let Mourinho have a lot of control at Barcelona because he found him impressive.
I am going to choose to ignore that disclaimer and take that quote as the truth because it made me laugh."He didn't have any real authority, but he'd follow the boss around like a leech, a protege. Whenever the boss punished you, Jose would just stand and nod his head disapprovingly at you. Nobody at the club liked him, he didn't have any authority - he was just there to translate the 4-5 different languages to Van Gaal, but every day at training he'd act like he was the man. Barjuan Sergi once struck a football 40 yards into the back of his head and he cried, everyone laughed"
*Rivaldo quotes may be a complete lie made up by me.
What did we do to you?Not sure why you some of you are still insisting on imagining a next season under LvG. It is masochism?
You can relax, of course van Gaal won't be managing United next season.
He'll be fired as soon as CL quali is impossible, because apparently that's when Utd fire their managers, quite probably due to some financial ramifications.
Or maybe, if he doesn't produce another embarrassing defeat (he will though), they'll allow him to stay on until the end of the season to give the whole affair some sort of dignified paint job.
In any case you can bet your arses your board has long since been feverishly looking for a new manager, and it really sounds like it's going to be José.
I would feel sorry for you if it wasn't so damn gratifying and entertaining to see you go down the drain straight into the gutter.
Genuinely massively disappointed at the faint possibility this may not be legit."Mourinho had not long retired from playing, and managed to talk himself into a job at Barcelona. He was Mr. Van Gaal's personal translator. It went to his head, he'd go around thinking he was assistant manager, taking notes and pointing things out to the boss" recounts Rivaldo.
"He didn't have any real authority, but he'd follow the boss around like a leech, a protege. Whenever the boss punished you, Jose would just stand and nod his head disapprovingly at you. Nobody at the club liked him, he didn't have any authority - he was just there to translate the 4-5 different languages to Van Gaal, but every day at training he'd act like he was the man. Barjuan Sergi once struck a football 40 yards into the back of his head and he cried, everyone laughed"
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*Rivaldo quotes may be a complete lie made up by me.
"Mourinho had not long retired from playing, and managed to talk himself into a job at Barcelona. He was Mr. Van Gaal's personal translator. It went to his head, he'd go around thinking he was assistant manager, taking notes and pointing things out to the boss" recounts Rivaldo.
"He didn't have any real authority, but he'd follow the boss around like a leech, a protege. Whenever the boss punished you, Jose would just stand and nod his head disapprovingly at you. Nobody at the club liked him, he didn't have any authority - he was just there to translate the 4-5 different languages to Van Gaal, but every day at training he'd act like he was the man. Barjuan Sergi once struck a football 40 yards into the back of his head and he cried, everyone laughed"
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*Rivaldo quotes may be a complete lie made up by me.
Lol. Jose is far too Alpha for this. The idea that no one liked the charming devil just doesn't fit. Now, Brendan Rodgers, that's easy to imagine. Didn't he speak to his players in Portuguese at Reading because that's what Josr did? Lol."Mourinho had not long retired from playing, and managed to talk himself into a job at Barcelona. He was Mr. Van Gaal's personal translator. It went to his head, he'd go around thinking he was assistant manager, taking notes and pointing things out to the boss" recounts Rivaldo.
"He didn't have any real authority, but he'd follow the boss around like a leech, a protege. Whenever the boss punished you, Jose would just stand and nod his head disapprovingly at you. Nobody at the club liked him, he didn't have any authority - he was just there to translate the 4-5 different languages to Van Gaal, but every day at training he'd act like he was the man. Barjuan Sergi once struck a football 40 yards into the back of his head and he cried, everyone laughed"
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*Rivaldo quotes may be a complete lie made up by me.
Why would he even want to come here though? We won't be in the Champions League, the squad is like a rotting apple and will need revamping from scratch. It will be a humongous job.
I can honestly seem him going elsewhere.
Why would he even want to come here though? We won't be in the Champions League, the squad is like a rotting apple and will need revamping from scratch. It will be a humongous job.
I can honestly seem him going elsewhere.
Nah. He'll come with our without CL. It'll be good for his ego to come in and try and get us back 'up there'. I wouldn't worry about him not coming. Just need Ed Woody to get the contract and pen out - that's all we need to worry about.Why would he even want to come here though? We won't be in the Champions League, the squad is like a rotting apple and will need revamping from scratch. It will be a humongous job.
I can honestly seem him going elsewhere.