Maybe referring to the case of unfair dismissal of Chelsea's former physio?!
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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Maybe referring to the case of unfair dismissal of Chelsea's former physio?!
Still lies. Also the thing about him sending us love letters, the media how thrown so much shit at the wall so there will be plenty of lies
Yep, good point.
That's a very good point. Mourinho's involvement might depend on CL participation. This could be a two way deal. Failing CL, Mourinho goes elsewhere and we are stuck with LvG for another season or he leaves at the end of this one and with no CL football, Giggs is appointed full time as there is no alternative.
Good point but if what we're led to believe is true, that this is the one appointment he craves,then the lure of Manchester Utd should be enough....surely?
Where will he go?
Back to Italy?
'Trouble is, this has always been guesswork or wishful thinking on our part (as far as I know). Has he ever stated it though?
He has said he is not going back to Inter (and they wont have CL either) and that he won't manage any other club apart from Inter.
This point about him rejecting us for no CL makes zero sense. He doesn't have lots of great options
He's said that he wants to manage in England next, its his favorite league and we are the biggest/richest club in that league. It will be a dream job for him
He was kissing SAF and United arse when Real knocked us out a few years back and We are the only club that he has not had any sort of falling out with.
I cant remember any sort of conterversy that Jose has had with us apart from running down the touchline and giving saf some bad wine.
I cant remember any sort of conterversy that Jose has had with us apart from running down the touchline and giving saf some bad wine.
Chinese clubs might give him a blank cheque - nowadays, they have to be viewed as a serious competitor for his services.
Good grief. This thread has gone from the height of hope to the depth of despair in 24 hours.
He likes to be in the spotlight. Yes he could go to China, but who cares what is happening there at the moment. It will take years to make them a major force, if ever. Jose wouldn't see that come to fruition. He wants success at a high level.
"When my kids were young, we could move and experience different countries and in my case, different clubs and different football, but there is a moment when they need some stability," he said.
"They are 19 years old and 16 years old, and with university and their football, they need some stability and the family needs some stability.
"We decided to come to London and, at the moment, I don't have a job. I don't know where football will take me because in football, you never know, but for sure, as a family, our home will be in London.
Doesn't sound like someone who will take his family to China for some extra money
Leyton Orient it is then.
I don't think so but it has always been assumed since the Fergie succession was first talked about, which led Charlton to inadvisedly state that Mourinho was unsuitable for the job. I think therefore that there is a lot of credence in him wanting the job. Indeed so much so that he might be prepared to take it on without CL football and see it as a challenge to build something significant over the next three seasons say.
I think, all things considered, the club cannot risk Giggsy at this time. If this was the end of next season with everything settled and a couple of trophies to show for it, then that would be a different matter. That's not going to be the case and with Pep at City we'd be at a considerable disadvantage. How many top players are going to consider coming to United with an unknown quantity in charge? Mourinho and the prospect of success in the foreseeable future makes for a totally different proposition.
He ruled them out
"At this moment I don’t have a job, and I don’t know where football will take me, because in football you never know," he added.
"But for sure for sure for sure, as a family, our home will still be England, our home will be in London. But obviously I am ready to move.
"As a professional, I am ready to move, especially because football in London for me, in terms of clubs… I think it is clear that I have to move."
I've said all along that I'd be very surprised if Mourinho is our next manager, and I've seen nothing to change my mind on this.
I don't think our board would genuinely consider him as they seem to have a preconceived idea of how this would somehow destroy the 'United way'.
I've also seen nothing to suggest that Van Gaal won't be manager next season and I believe that he will be. Just from his own assuredness in the role, you can see that he's incredulous when it's suggested he'll be replaced and has no problem telling us how well he thinks he's doing, because he's clearly being constantly reassured that everything is cool.
As far as the money men can see, the money keeps rolling in and the fans don't seem very bothered about the way things are going, so why change manager?
I don't think our board would genuinely consider him as they seem to have a preconceived idea of how this would somehow destroy the 'United way'.
I've also seen nothing to suggest that Van Gaal won't be manager next season and I believe that he will be. Just from his own assuredness in the role, you can see that he's incredulous when it's suggested he'll be replaced and has no problem telling us how well he thinks he's doing, because he's clearly being constantly reassured that everything is cool.
As far as the money men can see, the money keeps rolling in and the fans don't seem very bothered about the way things are going, so why change manager?
If we end up continuously in midtable they will have stop saying we are the biggest club in the world, because we won't be, we will just be another rich club. They might end up shocked how quick the support drops off. Not us, but as someone said future supporters. Kids want to support a winning club not one who just wants their money for nothing.
Please don't upset me by posting stuff like that.
It is worrying. They ruined my Mother's Day, they better hadn't ruin mmy summer as well. I can feel an angry letter coming on.
The Porto game vs. United was pretty ugly mind games. Jose was making comments about United's wealth and trying give it large.
Don't get the love in with the guy, his Porto team were a bunch of diving cheats. Which took the gloss on their significant achievement. He left Chelsea twice in both cases imo because he can't turn things round when things go wrong. He is made out by many as some tactical genius who wins against all the odds, which couldn't be further from the truth.
His Inter and Porto CL wins were against the odds and Inter 3-1 Barcelona was tactical genius
Disagree. We're seeing what Barca fans witnessed in his 2nd spell - continual bleeding of youngsters. He knew time was up then and he knows it now.
I feel ill after reading that
Just like Moyes, yes?
He's only doing this because he's forced to with the injury list we have. Not because he just wants to.
We have dropped in last 3 months from 18 dollar share average to just 14, factor in no cl next season and this will plummet even further, so I can guarantee at this rate of decline, the money men you talk of will get shot of Louis in a heart beat.
One of the reasons he is still here is to keep that share figure stable, especially as jose does not want to step in until the summer, which again would cause more ruckus and deprecation of value with the uncertainty of an interim manager.
Point in I'm trying to make, the stock market rules in big business.
While naive Ed is buying LVG's line that dissenting fans don't understand the process; that it's necessarily a slow one; that the process will lead to great rewards in future; we can't expect a managerial change unless it's forced by supporters.
If you want to look at this from a "money-men" perspective, Mourinho coming in would be a boost in the marketing sector. A new manager like him brings in excitement and drama for the off season. His influence on getting new top player transfers would be great for shirt sales so the Glazers and Adidas are happier for that. And of course, as I've mentioned before, the hype for him at United against his rival colleague in Guardiola at City will be huge. Also take into account his personal rivalry with other managers like Wenger and Benitez, assuming the latter keeps Newcastle in the Premier League. And if there's a risk of Mourinho failing... well, why would the "money-men" care since the brand is big enough to milk after all? So this argument could be used in a pro-Mourinho sort of way too.
Someone needs to whisper in Ed's ear that it might not be in his lifetime.
Mourinho is box office.
It's like hiring the top grossing actor, for a hollywood movie.
Woodward definitely understands this (because he is a marketing/money man).
I am 99.5% Mourinho will be our manager in the Summer. Everything and I mean everything points to this.
Woodward has probably reached a point where he just wants to get the best players and best manager into the club so we can attract more fans + TV footage.
He needs us to constantly be in the lime-light, if only so he can sell our brand to other countries and make more money.
he doesn't care about football, but he cares about the brand and this is what will drive him to pay big money for the best staff.
It's like hiring the top grossing actor, for a hollywood movie.
Woodward definitely understands this (because he is a marketing/money man).
I am 99.5% Mourinho will be our manager in the Summer. Everything and I mean everything points to this.
Woodward has probably reached a point where he just wants to get the best players and best manager into the club so we can attract more fans + TV footage.
He needs us to constantly be in the lime-light, if only so he can sell our brand to other countries and make more money.
he doesn't care about football, but he cares about the brand and this is what will drive him to pay big money for the best staff.
Do you really think that's the more likely scenario, rather than - inability to hire Mourinho this season?
Yes, I do. Aside from this, I think the relationship between Ed & LVG is too cosy for United's good.
i don't think the board is put off by Mourinhos potential disregard for their view of the 'united way', winning is far more important than any preconceived idea of style imvho. I do however think they have genuine concerns that he seems to burn everything to the ground after 3 years and united, no matter their immediate issues, will plan to live on for far longer than Mourinho can apparently behave himself.
I think the Caneiro case in particular will be of concern too as its seemingly a case of turning on one of your own which wouldn't look good to any potential employer. you may hate his actions now but if Mourinho is in your corner you'll lap up all his mind games at the expense of the opposition but burning your own staff in public is something else. I don't think its unreasonable for united to seek reassurance that Mourinho will carry himself with a certain dignity if he became manager here.
If Mourinho can reassure them that he'll have a long term vision to go along with his unquestionable short-term ability then he'll be given the job. And if (when) he gets it I've no doubt he'll be backed to the hilt by everyone there and that'll bring a responsibility too that he needs to uphold. I'd be amazed if the club hadn't been in negotiations with him for some time, he's the best available manager and I'm certain Van Gaal will be off in the summer at least
I think the Caneiro case in particular will be of concern too as its seemingly a case of turning on one of your own which wouldn't look good to any potential employer. you may hate his actions now but if Mourinho is in your corner you'll lap up all his mind games at the expense of the opposition but burning your own staff in public is something else. I don't think its unreasonable for united to seek reassurance that Mourinho will carry himself with a certain dignity if he became manager here.
If Mourinho can reassure them that he'll have a long term vision to go along with his unquestionable short-term ability then he'll be given the job. And if (when) he gets it I've no doubt he'll be backed to the hilt by everyone there and that'll bring a responsibility too that he needs to uphold. I'd be amazed if the club hadn't been in negotiations with him for some time, he's the best available manager and I'm certain Van Gaal will be off in the summer at least
Burning down the club down in 3 years?
Yeah.. Winning a treble, la liga, epl and it's called burning down the club..
Please burn us down mourinho
Yeah.. Winning a treble, la liga, epl and it's called burning down the club..
Please burn us down mourinho
Perhaps, but I suspect he'd act like that regardless. He doesn't need anyone's reassurances in order to promote himself and his methods.
Was he the same when the end was nigh at Barcelona and Bayern, still being bullish? Maybe their fans can tell us?
Couldn't agree more. Ferguson would never have done.....wait, he did.
You may be right that the club are concerned but its complete hypocrisy considering Ferguson ended up in a legal battle with the then majority shareholders.
i didn't mean burn down the whole club and you know it but i'm not wrong in stating he tends to leave a mess behind him when he fcuks off, even those clubs who loved him have a hangover when he goes and i don't think united want to be going through all the post-saf/moyes crap of restructuring again and again
fwiw i want Mourinho as the next manager however i'd like him to be here for 10 years not just 2 and i imagine the club feel the same way
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