He's a tease.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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I wonder at which stage Madrid would sack Zidane.
I hope not. We need a clean out of staff. There is clearly something wrong with everyone baring the kit man an GK coach.
Doubt it. And why should he? Giggs needs to feck off and manage a smaller team to learn. It's one thing being #2 and another when you are the big man in charge. He has to work his way up. He needs to lose games and figure things out.
This whole Giggs as sucessor before he's even managed one full season is ludicrous. And before people bring it up, feck Pep the fecking outlier. We don't have Messi, Xavi, Inesita, and Puyol in our dressing room. Heck, we don't even have a Theiry Henry for feck's sake.
It's Mourinho or bust. And this should not be taken lightly. We are facing a true crossroads. The EPL is changing, fast, and if we get left behind, it may be a long time before we catch up.
If we don't take him surely Arsenal is the likely place?
WHAT? No. No. God no! I just want to see Jose run down the Old Trafford touchline one more time, but this time as United manager. Is that too much to ask for?
Totally agree, yet we have fans that have the audacity to not want him while they complain about Mourinho's style of football.
Wenger would never allow that.
wenger will be unceremoniously sacked in 2 months
Why do you think they will sack him? They haven't for 10 years or so, when having the chance. The Arsenal board are happy that he's just getting them in the champions league.
That would be really odd though wouldn't it, insisting Giggs has to be involved in what would then be the 3rd regime post Fergie!
Are we going to keep doing this for 20years until we get a good manager, who then one day leaves and we can say "well, we have continuity for this now!"
the manner of the collapse this season from a position of greater optimism than recent years i think will be the final straw. i rate wenger but the club clearly needs a new manager.
Who could they get if they let him go?
Wenger might walk at the end of the season. But I don't see Jose joining them. Think Mourinho to us is done.
If/when Mourinho takes over he might well favour Darmian (feck knows why) but he is no athlete, he doesn't so much run around like a mad man but more like ambles around like a drunken goat.
If there really is anything resembling a higher power, Maureen.
who needs Maureen when we have LVG and his assistant
Couldn't put it better.
I'd even take bust.
Would ye take Wenger lads,we'd get 3 years out of him 
If we get him in, it better not be in middle of summer. We've fecked up twice, hiring Moyes, letting him run down the Everton contract until July, when half of the summer was gone and did the same with van Gaal. This dithering during the summer months has fecked up the recruting in the team. The state of the squad now is such that we can't afford to throw two months of preperation out of the window.
Still haven't warmed to the idea of Mourinho taking over, but the appointments by our rivals have forced our hand.
Still haven't warmed to the idea of Mourinho taking over, but the appointments by our rivals have forced our hand.
Not quite as definitive as the way it was initially reported, and he says he wants to be in the job by the time pre-season starts in July, not that he'd start the actual job then, so hopefully we could see him as United manager on June 1st.
This Jose Mourinho guy needs to be appointed immediately.
Today, the match thread prediction majority was for a draw. Now I know that most of us joke around that we won't beat WHU at OT, but this isn't a joke any more - it really is happening.
Our last 3 game results: LLD.
I ask you, is this acceptable?
And there are some fans who are saying that they want to give LVG more time. WTF!!!!
Next match is LFC and I am genuinely fearing a real spanking, as we are going to play with our first team (who are useless), who are going to be told to score goals (ie. the usual 0-0 or 1-1 score line wont do).
Today, the match thread prediction majority was for a draw. Now I know that most of us joke around that we won't beat WHU at OT, but this isn't a joke any more - it really is happening.
Our last 3 game results: LLD.
I ask you, is this acceptable?
And there are some fans who are saying that they want to give LVG more time. WTF!!!!
Next match is LFC and I am genuinely fearing a real spanking, as we are going to play with our first team (who are useless), who are going to be told to score goals (ie. the usual 0-0 or 1-1 score line wont do).
The whole Giggs needs to feck off is tiresome. You don't have to respect the guy but at least respect the service he's given to the club.
remember in december when we went EIGHT GAMES IN A ROW without a win?
it's so obvious he should've been sacked during that run.
Realistically what difference would it make to this season if we did appoint a new manager like Mourinho tomorrow?
The league's gone, top 4's looking unlikely, we need to turn over a 2 goal deficit against Liverpool to go through to the next round of a competition we are unlikely to actually win even if we did. And we have a tough match away to West Ham to get into the FA Cup semis, and our away form is atrocious.
Anything can happen in the league and the cups. But it's all very unlikely at this stage, so basically this season is done. A new manager isn't changing that in 6-7 weeks with the same set of players that have been under performing for months now.
We might as well just wait until June and give a new manager a fresh start in pre-season.
Scenes when Mourinho goes to Madrid and signs De Gea
Given that the club has been so happy to write the second half of this season off, I think it would've been a great idea to appoint Mourinho and let him assess things from the inside ahead of the summer. It would've given him a head start and given us the chance to hit the ground running next season. For the third pre-season in four, it's going to be all-change at the club - what a disgracefully botched succession from Ferguson it has been.
Erm it would make a big difference. Mourinho can assess which players suit his tactics and which ones to bin.
Mourinho would give us a better chance of winning the Europa league. I think that's part of the problem is expecting a defeat to the likes of West Ham. No disrespect to them.
Am I the only one who's worried that Mourinho have lost it? He's been at the top for about 13 years now, which is a long time in football, and most managers seems to be great for a certain amount of time like 10-15 years before declining. I just don't want us to get another past it-manager, just because it's looks better with all the trophies on the CV from yesteryears, instead of a young manager who, because of his age, haven't done as much, but could do.
It's annoying that our last 2 managers have been joining us immediately after their last appointment, with Moyes from Everton and van Gaal at the World Cup, meaning neither could start until July. Now we're (hopefully) getting a guy who's been unemployed for months, yet who still can't join us as soon as the season ends.
I really doubt he's lost it. He's clearly the best out there either way, we'd be absolutely mad not to give him the job.
I think the board evidently sees it the way @stevoc does but I think on the contrary there's a much better chance of us getting a response and winning one of the cups (FA Cup, Europa is probably a bridge too far) if we have a "new manager bounce", let alone a "Maureen bounce". He should have wanted to do it as well, if he'd come in he could've salvaged CL football for us next season, as it is he won't be contesting that in his first season with us.
You aren't, it's a risk I'm a bit concerned about too, tho its one I think we have to take.
My thoughts too. Although I've gone from "certain he's coming" to "the board are divided and he may not be."
The only 'young' manager one can think who can come in with a decent amount of pedigree is Pochettino. However, he has not won or proven anything yet. In a league where basically every top team is floundering, he still finds himself in second place to Leicester City. He is already out of the FA cup and as good as out of the EL as well. So getting him in now is far riskier than getting a proven Mourinho.
How can anyone say Mourinho is past it when he just won the league last season? Would you call Ancelotti past it because he was sacked at Real madrid after finishing outside the top two in the La Liga (first time in a decade)?
Sacking is not the right term as he may move into the Board. However I can see what you mean although I have my doubts because this Arsenal collapse is nothing new and everyone and their dogs predicted it.
Yet he could still be the first Tottenham manager to win the league for 55 years.
I'm not saying he's definitely past it, but I'm not gonna be over the moon with his appointment like many others, before I see something good on the pitch. After all his last impression was as a manager leaving the champions in 16th, 1 point above the relegation zone in December. Ancelotti didn't do anything that terrible last season, so there's no sign that he could be on the road to decline, although Ancelotti's record in league football is rather poor with only three league titles, despite being in charge of Juventus, Milan, Chelsea, PSG and Real Madrid since 1999.
As I said, managers - like players - can have poor months in charge but one poor spell should not be used as a barometer.
I appreciate managers may improve / deteriorate as their careers evolve, but what is meant by "losing it"? Age isn't really a factor is it?
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