Don't get too wrapped up in the word 'personality'. This is a popularity contest and nothing more.
BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2015
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Yea, bloody wankers not liking a homophobic misogynist.'The petition, 50,000 strong'
'50,000 wankers'
Hope Fury wins it just for the reaction.
At least he's not racist though. What with being a gyppo and all.
As a boxing fan, I've never liked Fury. Always felt he was a cnut with little talent. However, his achievement is the stand out achievement in sports this year imo (and I'm being as unbiased as possible here, as I'm a fan of athletics and tennis too).
If we're voting on personality, then don't give him the award. If we're voting on sporting achievement, then it should go to him. "Sports Personality" is a ridiculous name for an award anyway.
If we're voting on personality, then don't give him the award. If we're voting on sporting achievement, then it should go to him. "Sports Personality" is a ridiculous name for an award anyway.
One fight away. That fight will never get made though. Too many fecking organisations and belts.
The reason it's 'sports personality' rather than 'sports person' is to introduce an element of subjectiveness to the vote. According to the BBC, the vote is for "your favourite sports person of the year". The petition is to say that Tyson Fury shouldn't factor into anybody's list of favourites because he's a knobhead. I wouldn't agree with his exclusion, mind you, but that's the logic.
The award isn't about achievement alone. Otherwise the World Tiddlywinks champion would get into the list every year. It's about achievement AND public standing. For that reason, Fury's detractors would have had a point if the petition had attracted huge numbers because then he would have failed the requirement for high public standing. He hasn't, so we should forget about it and move on. I mean, the fact that this is going to be decided by a vote in its own right should be enough to illustrate what his public standing is. No need for a show of hands on top of a show of hands.
I wonder what the reaction to this all will be, though. Will the Fury haters votes for someone else en masse or will his sympathisers back him with even more votes?
The award isn't about achievement alone. Otherwise the World Tiddlywinks champion would get into the list every year. It's about achievement AND public standing. For that reason, Fury's detractors would have had a point if the petition had attracted huge numbers because then he would have failed the requirement for high public standing. He hasn't, so we should forget about it and move on. I mean, the fact that this is going to be decided by a vote in its own right should be enough to illustrate what his public standing is. No need for a show of hands on top of a show of hands.
I wonder what the reaction to this all will be, though. Will the Fury haters votes for someone else en masse or will his sympathisers back him with even more votes?
Not something that's exclusive to this forum by any means, but damn, calling gypsies by slang names seems commonplace as feck. If I were to call a black person a <insert slur here>, I'd be (rightly) banned in a heartbeat.
faith in the BBC has been slightly restored.I hope Fury wins it just so I can lap up all the false indignation.
whens it on?
I keep reading comments like this and I don't get it.
He's a bigot, why is it so outlandish for people to dislike him?
People supporting him just because other people don't like him is the stupidest thing ever.
tbf, he's been called so many names in the media lately that the only logical hipster response is to take his side for no apparent reason.
Because I find him funny rather than offensive. It's obvious that the guy is a product of his upbringing, but it's as politically incorrect to say that as it is many of the things he has said. He even says himself that he's backward because he hasn't had a good education. I like his honesty, even if his sense of humour is as "rough" as it comes. The comment about his wife needing an uppercut, when he obviously loves her to bits, is a plain example. I am not saying this to be nasty to Fury, but his lack of an education leads to his inability to rise above the inarticulate in interviews.
Damn hipsters.
A scourge on the modern world, I tell ya.
To be fair, I'd like him to win because I think he's fantastic for his sport. Muhammad Ali used to go on rants and call white men devils, but he was fantastic for boxing because he was so entertaining. people like Fury will always offend. He's a very rough-edged character, but I do believe from what I've seen of him that his heart's in the right place. You might find some of his views bizarre, but do you think he harbours any deep malice for women and/or gay people? I don't have that impression of him. People should listen to some interviews with his wife Paris, who gives a lot more insight into what he's really like than the media (she doesn't ignore his faults).
It's quite obvious in some of his interviews that he is just making it up as he goes along. It's quite child like the way he banters. He just needs someone to advise him to maybe tone it down a tad. He's genuine and rough and infinitely more palatable than the sanctimonious cnuts out to trash him.
His problem is that he's successful now. No one cared before he was world champ. In order to move in these circles he'll have to gentrify himself and hire a good PR team.
@Mutter Merkel
Btw, some of Muhammed Ali's ideas concerning eugenics are pretty incredible.
@Mutter Merkel
Btw, some of Muhammed Ali's ideas concerning eugenics are pretty incredible.
Agree 100%. He's just a nutter who spouts random nonsense without restraint, but he does it in a playful & genuine way.
Do I agree with his views on homosexuality & abortion? Not in the slightest, but he's entertained me for years, and will do for years to come. I do not think he needs to change at all.
I like him a lot more than those who just try to say whatever is most popular at a specific time. The perception of people like Fury is generated by the media game, which loves controversy. Our political classes then look to score points on the back of it. The exposure and petition signatures comments like these receive is completely disproportionate when you consider there are online petitions against the imprisonment/beheading of individuals in Saudi Arabia that struggle to get into the tens of thousands.
The media would have you believe there are power lines crashing down onto rain-slicked streets, while panic-stricken drivers swerve to avoid the next pileup, while the reality is that the local farmer has left a gate open, and bovine have wandered out onto a tranquil country lane in the heat of the day. Granted, they are eyeing a late-for-work and horn-blasting driver with the sort of upper-class disdain only the landed gentry can muster for the niceties and aspirations of the middle classes. Infuriating to some, positively hilarious to the unaffected.
The 'educated' media should possess the emotional intelligence (and responsibility) to know better quite frankly. Shameful.
I think they do, but they are aware of what generates clicks, views and sales.
Fury hiring a PR team? Come on now.
On achievement Fury should probably win as he won all the belts against the top dog for years and away from home. On 'personality' he should definitely win as he's certainly entertaining and got everyone talking. His press conferences and interviews are exciting.
What exactly did Fury say about gay people anyway, because some are making out he said they're the same as pedo's which from what I understand he never actually said. Things are so PC today that people get annoyed and ring the coppers about anything. As someone said, the stuff about women or his wife is all in jest, one minute she asks him at the presser on the mic how much "you love me" and he replies "F all, next question" then he's making a fool of himself singing to her in front of 55,000 people!
Is there any actual quotes of him saying hateful stuff directed at gay people?
What exactly did Fury say about gay people anyway, because some are making out he said they're the same as pedo's which from what I understand he never actually said. Things are so PC today that people get annoyed and ring the coppers about anything. As someone said, the stuff about women or his wife is all in jest, one minute she asks him at the presser on the mic how much "you love me" and he replies "F all, next question" then he's making a fool of himself singing to her in front of 55,000 people!
Is there any actual quotes of him saying hateful stuff directed at gay people?
Anyway, hope he wins it, better than Murray or Michael Owen etc winning, doubt they'd ever dress up as bateman, make a tool of themselves for a joke then go and win all his belts against Dr. Serious.
Is there anyone who doesn't believe Fury should win on sporting achievement alone?
He's got my vote despite disagreeing with the majority of his views, because I just can't justify any of the others deserving it barring maybe Froome.
He's got my vote despite disagreeing with the majority of his views, because I just can't justify any of the others deserving it barring maybe Froome.
He's also got mine. I don't agree with his views on abortion or a "woman's place," but he pulled off the seemingly impossible, and is quite a character to boot. I've always liked him, despite not liking his views, but hey - If I had to agree on everything to like someone, I'd have no-one in my life
My wish is Fury wins and punches Lineker in the face. But it's most likely Hamilton.
Me. Peaty.
Would be entertaining.I'm not watching the whole thing this year. It's always a cringy overproduced shitshow of boring people & drawn out pieces. Just tell me when they're announcing the top 3, please.
What's Eddie Izzard doing there.
I'd argue Jess Ennis winning the hepatgalon gold in multiple sporting events is far more rewarding. That's after having a baby, imagine having your body go through all that change yet still come back to be the best.
An amazing feat, and I reckon she'll come out ahead of Peaty, despite his achievements this year. If I had to guess at the top 3, I'd go...
1/2: Fury/Hill
3/4: Peaty/Hamilton
Given myself a lot of wiggle room
I kinda like Lewis, but I'll be disappointed if he makes top 3.He said this...
"‘There are only three things that need to be accomplished before the devil comes home: one of them is homosexuality being legal in countries, one of them is abortion and the other one’s paedophilia."
I've never heard the idea that those three things being becoming legal would bring back the devil.
Hamilton won't win it, he isn't there. Boxers usually do quite well in this right?
Religion & stupidity go hand in hand.
Well Zaggers won it in 07 when Hatton came third... Not sure one has come top three since then.
Fury as to get a mention. Wonder what the reaction will be from the audience.