Think people are confusing personality with character, you can have a good character and bad personality and vice versa. Fury is the biggest 'personality' and probably also had the best sporting achievement of the year, that's why he should have won.
BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2015
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Fury. Was rooting for him against Klitschko, and him singing Aerosmith after he won was great
No clue about boxing, dont watch it.
But people don't like him, and that's what this event is actually about. If it was about sporting achievement, it wouldn't be voted on by the public. And being outlandish doesn't mean people will like you.
Only if being a controversial arsehole is what you refer to as having a big personality.
Well David Haye didn't get in top 3 when he was nominated after he won the heavyweight world title either. He's got a "personality". Maybe people just don't consider winning that heavyweight title as great as an achievement as they use too.
We last won the Davis Cup 78 years ago tbf.
I've never been happier to see someone on the caf lose a bet.
Also I recognise Hamilton as an extremely talented individual and he'd have certainly been a more justified winner than Murray, not quite as sportingly astounding as the athletic contestants was my point.
While I appreciate your gallant attempt to cock a snook at me, I don't host dinner parties; we call these things hypothetical for a reason. Were I a man with Silva's admiration, and were I to host dinner parties, I would invite them ahead of Andy Murray.
You're underestimating how hard it is to drive an F1 car. If me and you tried we'd lose control on the first corner and die a horrible death.
How not? F1 is a sport which involves an incredible amount of endurance, considering competitors have to drive motor vehicles at incredibly high speeds for at least an hour at a time, with only brief pit stops between. They're at risk of accidents, and it's almost certainly one of the most dangerous major sports around. It's right up there with other sports.
If you don't consider F1 drivers athletes then I'll say again that you don't have a clue.
I'm sure we would. We'd also fail spectacularly at a professional snooker match or a world championship chess game. I just value athleticism as one of the most important traits to be the complete sportsman, I don't disagree Hamilton is supremely talented in motorsport.
The quality of the car has too much of a say in who wins in F1. It's really a contest between two drivers at the moment.
That's a fair criticism, Flamingo is just talking nonsense.
You've picked the wrong sportsmen to pick with then as F1 Drivers have that in abundance. Immense amount of training and stamina needed to be one.
Yeah I'm probably underestimating the athleticism in motorsport massively.
True, although Hamilton's had to work to prove himself as a driver warranting one of the best cars from a young age.
It also doesn't negate the achievement of Hamilton or any other champion; the guy drives the best car because he's proven himself the best driver over the course of his career.
Yes. His career will be given all due credit, but it's really for consistency over many years that F1 drivers are judged, rather than for any one victory, just due to the fact the quality of the car has such a big influence from year to year. He'll certainly get a life-time achievement award when he retires.
Have nothing against Murray, but beating a string of average players in the Davis Cup being valued as a greater achievement than individuals that have actually been the best in their respective sports is not right IMO.
Consider spending up to two hours sqeezed into a tight fitted seat wearing multiple layers and then being exerted to multiple g from various directions whilst having to drive at ridiculous speeds with perfect pinpoint accuracy for turn after turn and lap after lap.
F1 drivers are crazy fit.
The top three should have been Farah, Ennis and Fury on achievement. I don't mind how you arrange them.
Yeah fair point.
My tagline is apt.
Arguably F1 Drivers are one the fittest people in sport, bodies go through a lot strain for 2 straight hours without taking a break, sounds ridiculous but I think a lot of athletes would struggle with the basics such as pressing the brake pedal.
Not sure most of us would be able to start it and get it moving in the first place.
I would wager that there are less people on this planet with the ability to drive Formula One than could compete in any other sport. You're talking Jedi-like co-ordination, reflexes, control and concentration.
Andy Murray polled 361,446 vote followed by: Kevin Sinfield 278,353, Jessica Ennis-Hill 79,898, Tyson Fury 72,330, Lewis Hamilton 48,379, Chris Froome 39,007, Mo Farah 31,311, Max Whitlock 25,925, Greg Rutherford 23,492, Lizzie Armitstead 22,356, Adam Peaty 13,738, Lucy Bronze 13,236.
He became the heavyweight champion of the world, beating the previous holder who'd gone 12 years undefeated. He was the rank outsider but fought very well.
He's clearly a bit of a dick though. He's lucky he works for himself or he'd have been sacked by now.
Yeah, he's a bit of a knob, but not a cnut like all those who just can't help but join the herd in turning up their noses at someone who is unschooled in political correctness and social etiquette.
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preach brother, even though 75% of people won't know who he is its nice for a league player to be recognised for a change. What he's achieved is easily comparable to any sportsperson.
And that's assuming we could start the fecker.
Andy Murray winning the BBC's Sports Personality of the year, makes Caitlyn Jenner winning woman of the year seem reasonable.
Just saw this and how does this work? Is it public vote? Because Murray should not have been the winner when Mo Farah, Jess Ennis and Lewis Hamilton were also in the running.
Darts players are also among the fittest men in sport. They'd have to be in order to stand up on a hot stage for an indeterminate length of time while carrying up to 30 lbs of weight on their bellies. It's true because it says so on a darts website.
It's no wonder nobody takes you seriously.
The F1 driver fitness myth (
among the fittest athletes in sport? Jesus H. Christ.) is one of the most laughable in sport. Yes, F1 drivers do need to have a certain level of fitness but obviously they are not comparable to athletes whose fitness levels are the determining factor in whether or not they succeed.You could take an average man who keeps himself reasonably fit and train him for 6 months and he should easily be able to reach the fitness levels of most F1 drivers. You could not say the same about most other sports.
It's no wonder nobody takes you seriously.
A serious question about formula one then. Given that teams spend millions on cutting tiny amounts of weight to increase performance, what about the the weight of the drivers?
In horse racing lead is added to make a jockey the appropriate weight for the race and handicap, is that the same in formula one? None of it makes sense otherwise, to me at least.
Assuming any of you actually know anything about formula one, of course.
In horse racing lead is added to make a jockey the appropriate weight for the race and handicap, is that the same in formula one? None of it makes sense otherwise, to me at least.
Assuming any of you actually know anything about formula one, of course.