Yeah, but I think it's a pretty decent idea... it allows them to converse more realistically. It's always a bit silly when you have such highly emotional situations yet everyone always has the resolve to never swear!
Battlestar Gallactica.
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Yeah, but I think it's a pretty decent idea... it allows them to converse more realistically. It's always a bit silly when you have such highly emotional situations yet everyone always has the resolve to never swear!
Red Dwarf had 'smeg' and Father Ted 'feck'
Not to mention Farscape's 'frell', and 'dren'.
It is very similar to Babylon 5, but B5 had a much, much, much better ending. I can't really get myself to watch the first few seasons of BSG anymore, seasons that I think was the best I'd ever seen on TV. The finale spoiled the entire show for me, and certainly Caprica too, as well as any future games or series set in the BSG-world. It was filled to the brim with deus ex machina and ridiculous decisions.
I admit, part of what made BSG such a great show was it's ambigious attitude towards religion. It was often shown to a source of conflict, and I always got the feeling it let you choose between the pragmatic atheist Adama, and the religiously guided Roslin, certainly in the first part of the series. Anything vaguely resembling ambiguity went straight out the window in the series finale, and in a way it made the road to the finale a complete waste of time, since this intervening God-figure apparently constantly laid the path and made them walk it, and it would have ended up there anyway.
Right up until the finale it was my favourite tv-show ever, above even Babylon 5 and The Wire.
Can you tell I'm bitter?
It is very similar to Babylon 5, but B5 had a much, much, much better ending. I can't really get myself to watch the first few seasons of BSG anymore, seasons that I think was the best I'd ever seen on TV. The finale spoiled the entire show for me, and certainly Caprica too, as well as any future games or series set in the BSG-world. It was filled to the brim with deus ex machina and ridiculous decisions.
I admit, part of what made BSG such a great show was it's ambigious attitude towards religion. It was often shown to a source of conflict, and I always got the feeling it let you choose between the pragmatic atheist Adama, and the religiously guided Roslin, certainly in the first part of the series. Anything vaguely resembling ambiguity went straight out the window in the series finale, and in a way it made the road to the finale a complete waste of time, since this intervening God-figure apparently constantly laid the path and made them walk it, and it would have ended up there anyway.
Right up until the finale it was my favourite tv-show ever, above even Babylon 5 and The Wire.
Can you tell I'm bitter?
Hmmm… I’m not sure why the finale has had such a dramatic effect on you. I see where you are coming from in a sense.. but the presence of God and the ‘Angels’ were always there. At the start you did have the ‘Is it a Cylon chip or not?’ scenario with Baltar and his Caprica Six in his mind, but it was pretty much disproven when he had that brain scan in season 2.. then in Season 3 when we realize Caprica Six is experiencing similar mental visions with her own Baltar in her head.
There was an interesting conflict between Adam and Roslin.. but once again I always got the impression that the religious aspect was ‘real’ so to speak. Especially when you factor in the visions she was having that were coming true. Don’t forget Kara Thrace, she returned from the dead! Before dieing she had that conversation with a ‘fake’ Leoben… who I think it was very heavily hinted may have been another one of the ‘angels’.
I guess my point is that even though there was a sense of ambiguity at the start, the show always progressed at a steady pace towards the confirmation or divine intervention and greater forces at work.. so to me it didn’t feel as if it had come out of the blue or had harmed the show in any way when the ‘angels’ and the presence of ‘God’ were confirmed because… well in my mind they had more or less been confirmed for a while.
There was an interesting conflict between Adam and Roslin.. but once again I always got the impression that the religious aspect was ‘real’ so to speak. Especially when you factor in the visions she was having that were coming true. Don’t forget Kara Thrace, she returned from the dead! Before dieing she had that conversation with a ‘fake’ Leoben… who I think it was very heavily hinted may have been another one of the ‘angels’.
I guess my point is that even though there was a sense of ambiguity at the start, the show always progressed at a steady pace towards the confirmation or divine intervention and greater forces at work.. so to me it didn’t feel as if it had come out of the blue or had harmed the show in any way when the ‘angels’ and the presence of ‘God’ were confirmed because… well in my mind they had more or less been confirmed for a while.
I hated the ending because they made the humans extinct.
I suppose everyone has their own opinion i just thought the first season of SGA was pretty good (the whole they were on their own made it feel more tense but wasnt overly dark) then they started to become so powerful that every problem was solved incredibly easily and as result became predictable. In BSG you had characters change depending on the situation they were in and i found that very real, i mean they were the last of their race trying to find a new home it was bound to be dark and depressing.
I also thought BSG was well acted and writen (while some will question this because of the ending and its somewhat blunt explaination of everything, the show overall had interesting stories and characters were well writen), something SGA started well with but then seemed like they were just going through the gears
It is very similar to Babylon 5, but B5 had a much, much, much better ending. I can't really get myself to watch the first few seasons of BSG anymore, seasons that I think was the best I'd ever seen on TV. The finale spoiled the entire show for me, and certainly Caprica too, as well as any future games or series set in the BSG-world. It was filled to the brim with deus ex machina and ridiculous decisions.
I admit, part of what made BSG such a great show was it's ambigious attitude towards religion. It was often shown to a source of conflict, and I always got the feeling it let you choose between the pragmatic atheist Adama, and the religiously guided Roslin, certainly in the first part of the series. Anything vaguely resembling ambiguity went straight out the window in the series finale, and in a way it made the road to the finale a complete waste of time, since this intervening God-figure apparently constantly laid the path and made them walk it, and it would have ended up there anyway.
Right up until the finale it was my favourite tv-show ever, above even Babylon 5 and The Wire.
Can you tell I'm bitter?
Yeah i sort of feel the same (although i rank it as one of the best shows i've seen regardless of the final ep) but BSG's greatest downfall was they almost dug themselves into a hole with some of the story arcs that without this god figure at the end i really have no idea how they could explain everything.
What annoyed me most was the incredibly obvious use of deus ex machina. Like when the dead person's hand "somehow" fell and knocked the Raptor around, firing off the rockets (or whatever they were) right when it was in line with the Cylons.
Also, the point where they literally sent Anders, who was still living, right into the sun. Even worse was the fact that they sent all their ships and modern technology with them. Like there wouldn't be even one person among the 50,000 who thought, "wait a minute, I don't know how to farm! How the feck are we going to survive without any technology?".
I could rant and rave all day
Also, the point where they literally sent Anders, who was still living, right into the sun. Even worse was the fact that they sent all their ships and modern technology with them. Like there wouldn't be even one person among the 50,000 who thought, "wait a minute, I don't know how to farm! How the feck are we going to survive without any technology?".
I could rant and rave all day
What annoyed me most was the incredibly obvious use of deus ex machina. Like when the dead person's hand "somehow" fell and knocked the Raptor around, firing off the rockets (or whatever they were) right when it was in line with the Cylons.
Also, the point where they literally sent Anders, who was still living, right into the sun. Even worse was the fact that they sent all their ships and modern technology with them. Like there wouldn't be even one person among the 50,000 who thought, "wait a minute, I don't know how to farm! How the feck are we going to survive without any technology?".
I could rant and rave all day
Yeah I found the decisions they made on Earth to be really rushed, the conflict with how they should adapt to Earth could have made for another story arc...
What annoyed me most was the incredibly obvious use of deus ex machina. Like when the dead person's hand "somehow" fell and knocked the Raptor around, firing off the rockets (or whatever they were) right when it was in line with the Cylons.
Also, the point where they literally sent Anders, who was still living, right into the sun. Even worse was the fact that they sent all their ships and modern technology with them. Like there wouldn't be even one person among the 50,000 who thought, "wait a minute, I don't know how to farm! How the feck are we going to survive without any technology?".
I could rant and rave all day
I think the whole point of leaving their tec behind was because they believed it would would break that cycle - all this has happened before and will happen again, however, from the last 10 minutes of the final you saw that we were heading down that road again.
In actual fact you wonder that had they kept their technology they wouldnt have made that mistake again (making robots then having them rebel)
But what does it matter? In the end they died out anyway. Probably the next time any sort of disease struck, considering they didn't have any medicine since they flew it all into the sun.
It just didn't make any sense at all. There's no reason why every single person would agree with that position.
Well they wanted to rebuild the human race which is why they spread themselves out and i suppose they just wanted to start fresh. I think at the end of it Lee said they could give the inhabbitants the best parts of themselves - seeing how the show had a villian that was created by themselves i think they wanted to get rid of the tec just to live peacefully alongside those primitives
Yes, that's what they were saying in the show, and that's exactly my point. It made no sense. If someone wants to make a show where people wear trousers on their heads, that's their decision, but that doesn't mean I have to accept the impeccable logic of trouserhats when debating whether it makes any sense or not.
Absolutely spot on and exactly how I feel.It is very similar to Babylon 5, but B5 had a much, much, much better ending. I can't really get myself to watch the first few seasons of BSG anymore, seasons that I think was the best I'd ever seen on TV. The finale spoiled the entire show for me, and certainly Caprica too, as well as any future games or series set in the BSG-world. It was filled to the brim with deus ex machina and ridiculous decisions.
I admit, part of what made BSG such a great show was it's ambigious attitude towards religion. It was often shown to a source of conflict, and I always got the feeling it let you choose between the pragmatic atheist Adama, and the religiously guided Roslin, certainly in the first part of the series. Anything vaguely resembling ambiguity went straight out the window in the series finale, and in a way it made the road to the finale a complete waste of time, since this intervening God-figure apparently constantly laid the path and made them walk it, and it would have ended up there anyway.
Right up until the finale it was my favourite tv-show ever, above even Babylon 5 and The Wire.
Can you tell I'm bitter?
It was not just the definite assertion by the creators of a God like figure and a divine plan but how they villianised science and technology and portrayed the pure atheist character as a some kind of evil incarnate. Did not even bother to remotely explain the Kara thing. It was amazing how they subtly broadcasted the message that Cylons were fulfilling Gods plan by committing genocide of over one billion humans. Ridiculous
Crapplestar Craptactica. Yes that is going to be my only contribution to this thread.
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Red Dwarf had 'smeg' and Father Ted 'feck'
Firefly had "rutting" and "gorram", too.
Finished season one, and now just started the second season. Really addicted to this shit, when I finish all four seasons, I will have to replace this show with another sci-fi show. Any recommendations? StarGate (If so which one) or Babylon 5?
Watch the early seasons of Stargate, after season 6 or 7 i thought it went downhill. The new one Stargate Universe is starting to pick up but the early eps were a real bore.
Never watched the Babylon 5 series, altho their movie In the Beginning was pretty good.
There are so many Stargates don't know which one you are talking about. SG1 SG:Atlantis or SG:Universe or some other?
Oh right SG1, SGA was rubbish in my opinion - well the first season was watchable
Thanks will do. Still watching season two of BSG at the moment. Which one do you prefer BSG or SG1?
Just throwing it out there, but if anyone is interested in purchasing the BSG series on Blu-Ray I'd suggest DeepDiscount.com. I found the series for $100 cheaper than anywhere else. That said, I have the series on digits, but I'll be getting it later on BR.
Babylon 5.
BSG by far!
Do you prefer it over SG?
Hands down.
I've seen the entire series three times. Grant it I was about.....9 years old the first time and 12-13 ish the second. I watched it again in my early early twenties to make sure I wasn't deluding myself over how good I thought it was and actually liked it more.
Stargate SG1 > Stargate Atlantis
I'm gonna buy the DVD collection covering all 4 seasons of BG today, based on the opinions above.
I'm gonna buy the DVD collection covering all 4 seasons of BG today, based on the opinions above.
Just started watching Battlestar Galactica. 6 episodes into it(including the miniseries), and so far I'm really liking it. I've heard they canceled Caprica, and are starting a new series called Blood and Chrome. Hope I can finish this show before that one starts. Was Caprica any good?
Watched the first episode. Didn't like it so never watched any of the others.
BSG series is great. The second half of season 3 is a bit crap if I remember though. Hated the ending (of BSG) aswell.
Just about to start season 2.5. Excellent show.
2.5? You mean you're half way through 2, or is that when Razor was set?
Amazing series, loved every minute.
No idea. Netflix has 2.0 and 2.5 listed separately. The commander of the Pegasus just died, so wherever in season 2 that puts me.
What exactly is the breakdown of order from here on out? I've seen mention of Razor and others but I'm not sure in which order they go. Any help?
Ah, looks like they split it into two halves over there, strange.
Been a while so I can't quite remember the order, but I think Razor is after season 3. "The Plan" takes place throughout the whole plot and you really need to have seen the entire show before that. Caprica was a prequel to the whole thing but I haven't seen it yet, will try to eventually though. Looks like there are tons of "webisodes" and stuff but I haven't got a clue about them, I'm shite at watching stuff like that but they can't have been too integral.
You've got "butterfingers" still to watch, I'm so jealous. You'll know it when you see it.
Been a while so I can't quite remember the order, but I think Razor is after season 3. "The Plan" takes place throughout the whole plot and you really need to have seen the entire show before that. Caprica was a prequel to the whole thing but I haven't seen it yet, will try to eventually though. Looks like there are tons of "webisodes" and stuff but I haven't got a clue about them, I'm shite at watching stuff like that but they can't have been too integral.
You've got "butterfingers" still to watch, I'm so jealous. You'll know it when you see it.
I always found this show boring might try it again
I have had this on my HD for a while but not bothered with it.
So thought I would watch it at work , must admit Iam quite impressed with it , much better than the original.
Just at S2 watched the first 2 EP'S of that.
Not a patch on Babylon 5 , but still good
So thought I would watch it at work , must admit Iam quite impressed with it , much better than the original.
Just at S2 watched the first 2 EP'S of that.
Not a patch on Babylon 5 , but still good
got this from a wesite , might help
-Miniseries
-Season 1
-Season 2
-"The Resistance" Webisodes 1-10
-Season 3
-"Razor" TV Movie
-Season 4
I'm halfway through season 3 now. I can't decide if the show has gotten bad, or if I just watched too much of it too quickly. I find it's getting a bit tedious.
S3 did get a bit shit half way through. The love triangle really hit flat. It picks up again 3/4's of the way through though and S4 is much better.
I cant recall S3 too well but i think it was one of the worst seasons of the show (well the first 5-8 eps of S3 werent bad) i think it suffered because of the writers strike and there were strong rumours that it was not going to be picked up for another season.