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MosDef said:
That was posted on 24th July. We didn't have Pogba back then.
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Yeah I've just noticed that but even then I'd gladly take 34 y.o Carrick who actually passes the ball forward or 'real' Schneiderlin over Schweini (that's not including an all-rounder, enthusiastic Herrera into account) and as I said - I really like Bastian.
 
I don't blame Jose for how Bastian has been treated.

We clearly needed the wage bill to go down after signing Zlatan and Pogba, two players who are probably on Rooney-level money. We needed to get rid of someone, he chose Bastian.

Clearly Schweinsteiger wasn't going to leave under exceptional circumstances: he's always spoken about how United was one of his dream clubs apart from Bayern. Coupled with the fact the high wages we gave him last year, we tried to force him to leave with the whole training with reserves crap. But now the window is closed, I expect him to be reintegrated into the squad.

We just named him in our 25 man squad, and I believe he still has a lot to offer. The sideways passing thing was clearly a LVG instruction. I'd rather judge him on the world class quality he showed at Bayern and Germany over the years.
 
Giant Midget said:
I don't blame Jose for how Bastian has been treated.

We clearly needed the wage bill to go down after signing Zlatan and Pogba, two players who are probably on Rooney-level money. We needed to get rid of someone, he chose Bastian.

Clearly Schweinsteiger wasn't going to leave under exceptional circumstances: he's always spoken about how United was one of his dream clubs apart from Bayern. Coupled with the fact the high wages we gave him last year, we tried to force him to leave with the whole training with reserves crap. But now the window is closed, I expect him to be reintegrated into the squad.

We just named him in our 25 man squad, and I believe he still has a lot to offer. The sideways passing thing was clearly a LVG instruction. I'd rather judge him on the world class quality he showed at Bayern and Germany over the years.
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I see it the same.

Just whether or not the bridges have been burnt as to whether he can be put back into the first team picture. Hopefully he and Jose and professional enough to let bygones be bygones and work together to get the best out of each other for the squad.
 
Giant Midget said:
I don't blame Jose for how Bastian has been treated.

We clearly needed the wage bill to go down after signing Zlatan and Pogba, two players who are probably on Rooney-level money. We needed to get rid of someone, he chose Bastian.

Clearly Schweinsteiger wasn't going to leave under exceptional circumstances: he's always spoken about how United was one of his dream clubs apart from Bayern. Coupled with the fact the high wages we gave him last year, we tried to force him to leave with the whole training with reserves crap. But now the window is closed, I expect him to be reintegrated into the squad.

We just named him in our 25 man squad, and I believe he still has a lot to offer. The sideways passing thing was clearly a LVG instruction. I'd rather judge him on the world class quality he showed at Bayern and Germany over the years.
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Victor Valdes was also included in the squad last year.It really doesn't mean much.

It's the Europe league squad that will tell the real story. If he's incuded there,then he does stand a chance.

I think a lot of people will be dissapointed though. Jose isnt as sentimental as some people are trying to convince themselves. After last Season,he's more determined than ever to win. Bastian doesn't look fit, and Jose simply won't stand for that.
 
I just saw a trailer for The BFG by Spielberg. For a few seconds I wondered how they can get away with the name Big Fecking Giant for a kids film.
 
Sigma said:
Jose will play him this season, mark my words
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People mostly has criticised Mou for his treatment to Bastian, but to me, I think it is just a way to spark him back to life. Having virtually won it all except individual honours, and supposedly "old" already, Bastian might not have the same hunger. Probably need a new challenge.

So Mou presents him a new one, by "demoting" him to the reserves. It might be too hopeful, but I am hoping to see Bastian work hard to make himself back to fitness at least, and be in contention for that spot in first team squad, let alone a spot in the first 11.
 
Bastian Schweinsteiger is no longer a First team player at Man Utd, the club have written him off £6.7m in wages.
 
Zelalem said:
Bastian Schweinsteiger is no longer a First team player at Man Utd, the club have written him off £6.7m in wages.
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Mental.

Why would we not include him, we've spent 6.7m for nothing. What if we had a major injury crisis?
 
I still don't understand why we have to be so definite about it. What's the harm in having him be a part of the group if there's even a 1% chance he might be needed at some point?
 
K2K said:
Play the youth.

There is nothing mental about the decision. Infact it was the only logical solution.
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Who in the youth team is better than Bastian Schweinsteiger.

kps88 said:
I still don't understand why we have to be so definite about it. What's the harm in having him be a part of the group if there's even a 1% chance he might be needed at some point?
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Exactly. A completely ludicrous decision.
 
There's something very iffy about this. It actually looks like we are being unnecessarily cruel.
 
kps88 said:
I still don't understand why we have to be so definite about it. What's the harm in having him be a part of the group if there's even a 1% chance he might be needed at some point?
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Agree
 
kps88 said:
I still don't understand why we have to be so definite about it. What's the harm in having him be a part of the group if there's even a 1% chance he might be needed at some point?
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Given that squad size cannot be infinite then he could only be 'part of the group' at someone else's expense.
There is no one I would dispense with before him personally, and it appears Mourinho thinks the same.
 
712 said:
Given that squad size cannot be infinite then he could only be 'part of the group' at someone else's expense.
There is no one I would dispense with before him personally, and it appears Mourinho thinks the same.
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He's already been named in our Premier League squad.
 
Bwuk said:
Who in the youth team is better than Bastian Schweinsteiger.
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Thats not why you play youth.

They get better by getting gametime.

Bastian is competing with the senior players instead, and the manager has decided that he prefers others. I fully agree with that one.

His perfomances here have hardly left much to be desired anyway, and we 6.7mil will not kill us financially.
 
K2K said:
So was Valdes.

However he was excluded from the Europa league squad, which is far more significant as that is where he would have gotten game time if we ever intended playing him.
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Sure. Was just pointing out the reason he has been so definitely excluded was not to do with squad sizes.
 
dwd said:
You reckon? Jose hasn't said a positive word about him.
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Why should he? If the club wants to get rid of him at every cost, Mou is fine with it and acts the same. But i dont know why Mou would be so ruthless towards him, the club on the other hand didnt like his behaviour from the previous season probably. Maybe he did even complain internally about how the club sacked van Gaal etc, who knows but that is just the vibe i get from that
 
izec said:
Why should he? If the club wants to get rid of him at every cost, Mou is fine with it and acts the same. But i dont know why Mou would be so ruthless towards him, the club on the other hand didnt like his behaviour from the previous season probably. Maybe he did even complain internally about how the club sacked van Gaal etc, who knows but that is just the vibe i get from that
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The post I responded to stated that he thought it was a club decision rather than one by the manager, hence why I mentioned how Mourinho had spoken of Schweinsteiger.
 
kps88 said:
Sure. Was just pointing out the reason he has been so definitely excluded was not to do with squad sizes.
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I take your point, but if you use the word group instead then it could well be. Mourinho prefers to work with a smaller group than a full squad anyway, and presumably does not want the influence of a disenchanted superstar hanging around the edges.
To be fair to Schwein his attitude to his situation has been impeccable so far rather than disenchanted, but I can understand it's best to clear the issue now rather than have a year's press and fan speculation about it.
 
From what it sounds like, he turned down various moves this summer to sit on his arse and pick up his wage (as it also has been made clear we don't intend to use him).

As a result we've bought him out of his contract rather than make him play with the reserves.

Nothing fishy, just disappointing.
 
Pexbo said:
From what it sounds like, he turned down various moves this summer to sit on his arse and pick up his wage (as it also has been made clear we don't intend to use him).

As a result we've bought him out of his contract rather than make him play with the reserves.

Nothing fishy, just disappointing.
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Yup, sounds about right.
 
Pexbo said:
From what it sounds like, he turned down various moves this summer to sit on his arse and pick up his wage (as it also has been made clear we don't intend to use him).

As a result we've bought him out of his contract rather than make him play with the reserves.

Nothing fishy, just disappointing.
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That's not what it looks like from the reports.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...rite-off-67m-asset-bastian-schweinsteiger-in/
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Under the 'exceptional items' section of United's annual results, it listed a sum of £6.7million "related to a registrations' impairment charge regarding a reduction in the carrying value of a player no longer considered to be a member of the first team playing squad".

It is understood Schweinsteiger is that individual and could not be included as an asset as it may give an unfair impression to investors.
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A loss of value but not an actual expense to buy Schweinsteiger out of his contract. I don't see anything here to indicate that he wouldn't be able to play for the first team anymore.
 
Ainu said:
That's not what it looks like from the reports.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...rite-off-67m-asset-bastian-schweinsteiger-in/


A loss of value but not an actual expense to buy Schweinsteiger out of his contract. I don't see anything here to indicate that he wouldn't be able to play for the first team anymore.
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It kinda reads like that though, at least for me. They don't see him as a first team player anymore so they write him off. That depreciation reduces the profit and therefore the amount of taxes utd has to pay. If he plays now, then the whole depreciation thing looks suspicious. But i have very limited knowledge about tax related stuff so that's probably all bs.
 
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It doesn't mean that we've bought him out of his contract or that he can't play for us again.

It appears we've simply reduced his value on the balance sheet (initial transfer fee less around a year's amortisation) to nil. Would be the same effect if he'd just retired 1 year into his contract.
 
There's no chance he will ever play for us again and rightly so ... Rather the club has resigned themselves to him sitting on his fat arse for the next two years and written his wages off as an expense
 
schwalbe said:
It kinda reads like that though, at least for me. They don't see him as a first team player anymore so they write him off. That depreciation reduces the profit and therefore the amount of taxes utd has to pay. If he plays now, then the whole depreciation thing looks suspicious. But i have very limited knowledge about tax related stuff so that's probably all bs.
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It's all purely academic as Mourinho is simply not interested in ever playing him or even including him in the match day squad. But should desperate times call for his inclusion, it would technically still be possible.
 
K2K said:
Play the youth.

There is nothing mental about the decision. Infact it was the only logical solution.
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Only if we could do the same with the most overrated player in the squad which is always starting..
 
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