Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!

That's likely true, as they won't qualify for the CVC money, 15% of which can be used to cover salaries as far as I understand it anyway.
Yes, but if I understand correctly, he now specified it more clearly.

He says the financial situation and the 'salary mass' they found was severe (110% of revenue...) and it was impossible to comply with FFP rules going forward. He hoped the league could be "more flexible" but that it's not an excuse, they knew the rules beforehand and other clubs understandably want the rules to be applied evenly. So he takes responsibility as the club there.

Then, if I understood, I think he said there would have been a way to re-sign Messi and get the FFP approval had they accepted the CVC deal (meaning the CVC deal money could have made it possible, not that the league blackmailed them tying the issues together), but he can't in good conscience make a decision that would affect the club for 50 years going forward.

Which are good statements.

He doesn't completely shut the door on a turnaround, but doesn't want to give "false hope" as long as FFP remains "unflexible" as Messi has other offers....
 
Yes, but if I understand correctly, he now specified it more clearly.

He says the financial situation and the 'salary mass' they found was severe (110% of revenue...) and it was impossible to comply with FFP rules going forward. He hoped the league could be "more flexible" but that it's not an excuse, they knew the rules beforehand and other clubs understandably want the rules to be applied evenly. So he takes responsibility as the club there.

Then, if I understood, I think he said there would have been a way to re-sign Messi and get the FFP approval had they accepted the CVC deal (meaning the CVC deal money could have made it possible, not that the league blackmailed them tying the issues together), but he can't in good conscience make a decision that would affect the club for 50 years going forward.

Which are good statements.

He doesn't completely shut the door on a turnaround, but doesn't want to give "false hope" as long as FFP remains "unflexible" as Messi has other offers....
110% of the revenue ? Barca revenue is 700M , so their wages are 770M ???
 
He talks about the 'post Messi era' starting now, as opposed to in two years as they had hoped.

Explains that the contracts discussed with Messi were always with 2 years in mind - first a 2 year contract paid over 5 years, then as a 5 year contract on paper but with 2 years in mind.
 
110% of the revenue ? Barca revenue is 700M , so their wages are 770M ???
No idea what timespan he's refering to, just said that the numbers they (the new presidency) found when they came into the club were much worse than they had thought.
 
Sensible press conference from Laporta.

Says they needed to make a decision and not 'prolong the agony'.
 
So in detail: with Messi's contract, the salary mass would have been 110% of revenue, and even without Leo, they are above the salary limit that is allowed by La Liga.
Says they have to free up salary at a rate of 4 times what they want to bring in (not sure if I understood that right, sounds mental).
 
“Pressure” or “blame”, or both.
I'm positively surprised in the way he explicitly takes responsibility, as the club, for the FFP non-compliance, says the rules were known and it's due to the 'inheritance' (the previous administrations mismanagement) that they can't comply. He's not actually acting like they were entitled to be let off the hook.
 
It would be awful if he indeed leaves the club like that, without even a proper send-off.
 
Would be a farce of a contract anyway, signing for 5 but paid for 2 years and that amount spread over 5 years? feck your creative accounting, either you can or you can't. At least Laporta is more business savvy so they won't go bankrupt, he's probably in shock at how bad everything was from Bartomeu.
 
In fairness it seems pretty clear that Regulus was making the point that the league will survive without Messi, as good as he may be, given how the PL (and United) were fine after Ronaldo left.

Ladron you definitely seem to be the one derailing, by being so desperate to state multiple times how much better you think Messi is (which is a reasonable opinion to have, I actually agree he's better, even though you seem to exaggerate wildly and referred to Ronaldo as "the other guy" for some bizarre reason). There's a thread dedicated to just that, you don't need to bring it up every time Ronaldo is mentioned.

Anyway the original point is correct, La Liga and Barca won't suddenly stop existing. Besides, Barca need to get used to life after Messi. It was always going to happen eventually, this way seems like ripping off the plaster rather than slowly peeling it off - it'll hurt more at first, but will heal quicker over time.

You seem emotional too. And you have the other thread for that comparison as well. This thread is about Barcelona being in a perilous state.
 
Yes, but if I understand correctly, he now specified it more clearly.

He says the financial situation and the 'salary mass' they found was severe (110% of revenue...) and it was impossible to comply with FFP rules going forward. He hoped the league could be "more flexible" but that it's not an excuse, they knew the rules beforehand and other clubs understandably want the rules to be applied evenly. So he takes responsibility as the club there.

Then, if I understood, I think he said there would have been a way to re-sign Messi and get the FFP approval had they accepted the CVC deal (meaning the CVC deal money could have made it possible, not that the league blackmailed them tying the issues together), but he can't in good conscience make a decision that would affect the club for 50 years going forward.

Which are good statements.

He doesn't completely shut the door on a turnaround, but doesn't want to give "false hope" as long as FFP remains "unflexible" as Messi has other offers....

Someone posted the CVC conditions yesterday. If I'm not mistaken, Barcelona could only spend a small fraction of that sum on transfers and salary. The vast majority of that amount would have gone towards infrastructures. Given that Barcelona needed to shed GBP 175 M to register their new signings, even the CVC sum wouldn't have been enough.

He isn't wrong to reject the CVC deal regardless of whether he sees it as blackmail because it seems shortsighted. Handing over 11% of all revenues to an investment fund for a short term cash infusion seems utterly and preposterously misguided. That's not even mentioning the fact that Laporta (along with Perez) are still trying to create a superleague project and that the CVC deal would mean extinguishing any chance of a super league.
 
Tebas tweeting while Laporta is talking, Trump style :lol:
Surely if Messi leaves it is not good for the La Liga profile. Who will want to watch it without him? It could set them back this season until they can sign big names again or produce their own superstar.
 
What does it say?
google translates it as "Hello @JoanLaportaFCB, you know that the CVC operation does not mortgage the TV rights of @FCB 50 years, what it does is that they have more value for all the clubs and so you can MORTGAGE your BANKS and solve the great debt. you understood hours ago."
 
What does it say?

He's telling Laporta that the CVC deal doesn't mortgage the TV deal for 50 years but that it adds value to all clubs, and that Laporta better mortgage his banks to pay the debt. Adds that Laporta understood this hours ago.
 
Surely if Messi leaves it is not good for the La Liga profile. Who will want to watch it without him? It could set them back this season until they can sign big names again or produce their own superstar.

At the same time, how can Tebas back down publically? He would look silly. That's not to mention the fact that he's at odds with the top 2 because they tried the Super League project, and are continuing to attempt to create it.
 
Laporta: "Last season's losses are 487 million euros. This Season it will be more "


Holy shit , 500M loss ? How is Barca not banned because of FFP
 
I mean it's unequivocally clear that it is completely inappropriate and unprofessional for any official in a responsible position to be on Twitter like this shooting off on serious issues regarding the area of his stewardship.

Tells you all you need to know about the guy.
 
Surely if Messi leaves it is not good for the La Liga profile. Who will want to watch it without him? It could set them back this season until they can sign big names again or produce their own superstar.
The plastics who were following Messi not Barca or la Liga might jump the ship but there are enough people who will still watch it. Or do you think that La Liga started in 2004?
 
Laporta: "Last season's losses are 487 million euros. This Season it will be more "


Holy shit , 500M loss ? How is Barca not banned because of FFP

That's too much, it must be a mistake.
 
The plastics who were following Messi not Barca or la Liga might jump the ship but there are enough people who will still watch it. Or do you think that La Liga started in 2004?

It’s quite hard to watch La Liga now, legally, in England, it’s a separate subscription for instance, which I’m certainly not paying for - why is that?
 
Surely if Messi leaves it is not good for the La Liga profile. Who will want to watch it without him? It could set them back this season until they can sign big names again or produce their own superstar.
People will still watch La Liga. Sure, Messi leaving hurts but the financial mismanagement of several teams hurts the league more.
Just look at where the league was when Tebas came in. Half the clubs were on the verge of administration. He has done an excellent job.
 
When was this salary cap introduced, I dont recall hearing about it last season. Also, more pertinently, why was it introduced? Surely la liga knew this would screw over the top teams. Star players leaving means la liga is less lucrative for broadcasters
 
I’m going to throw a conspiracy theory out there that I’ve just made up:

Barcelona and Real Madrid are both secretly in cahoots with La Liga over this salary cap. It’s a chance for both teams to have a major reset and a chance for Laporta to get Messi off the books while holding his hands up and saying it’s not his fault.
They probably are in cahoots after being butt hurt with the ESL fiasco. Hardly a theory, let's roll with it.
 
When was this salary cap introduced, I dont recall hearing about it last season. Also, more pertinently, why was it introduced? Surely la liga knew this would screw over the top teams. Star players leaving means la liga is less lucrative for broadcasters

It was introduced because La Liga clubs en masse were headed for bankruptcy.