He, as a Barca fan is literally praising Real Madrid for their european trophies, which is why basically La Liga is the most successful league in Europe in terms of trophies.
He is the one who is here.
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Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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He, as a Barca fan is literally praising Real Madrid for their european trophies, which is why basically La Liga is the most successful league in Europe in terms of trophies.
He is the one who is here.
La Liga is the most successful league (by quite some distance) historically in European football. La Liga football clubs have won more European trophies than any other league. No other league has had as many all-time greats as La Liga (record number of Ballon d'or winners, European Golden Shoe winners etc.) either with Serie A a closely second historically. RM and Barça remain the two top dogs in world football as well when it comes to fanbase, trophies won, all-time greats, pedigree and prestige etc. Not only that La Liga is just coming off a period of utter dominance in European football that lasted almost 2 decades.
La Liga, while no longer the undisputed dominant top league in world football, remains in the top 2. Only the doping league (EPL) after years of artificial spending due to the UK/EPL selling out to oil/gas rich Middle Eastern dictatorships, formerly criminal Russian oligarchs and American billionaires is at last at a similar level and nowadays a slightly better level.
It is no longer than 8 months ago (May 2022) that La Liga had 2 teams in the CL semifinals (RM and Villarreal) with RM ending up wining the CL.
Even with a La Liga in decline, partially due to the stupidly rigid FFP rules of La Liga itself, courtesy of Tebas, La Liga remains a top 2 league. For how long remains to be seen.
Now I can't imagine how utterly dominant La Liga could be if almost every La Liga club was owned by oil/gas rich Middle Eastern dictatorships, formerly criminal Russian oligarchs and American billionaires etc. like the case is in England (EPL). It is absolutely pathetic to see historical greats in Spain and Italy being unable to compete with some no-names English clubs due to the latter artificial money or lottery wins.
In terms of results in La Liga, what Barça and Xavi have done deserve respect and nobody can deny it given the institutional crisis (unprecedented in recent Barça history - we have to go back to the last years of Gaspart's reign to find something similar), the GOAT (Messi) leaving the club, post-COVID-19 economic crisis + Bartomeu's almost deliberate sabotage of the club, one of the youngest teams in Europe etc. To try and downplay this, due to the usual suspects obsession/dislike of Barça is pathetic.
Are you really 48 years old?A Chelsea fan talking about a project?
You mean the same QSG that you happen to support which, much like Chelsea from 2003 onwards, have helped ruin modern football by serving as a sports washing vehicle by a dictatorship (Qatar) and the same QSG that has been cheating UEFA FFP rules (along other such clubs like Man City) time and time again? Which artificially became a relevant club overnight? Who used fake inflated sponsorship deals to gain an artificial advantage over the domestic and European competition? The same club that just during the 2017 transfer window, somehow managed to buy Neymar for a record transfer fee (222 million euros) which still stands to this day, later to buy Mbappé for a similar sum in the same transfer window?
You know what is even more funny? Your QSG has nothing to show for all those wasted billions of euros in Europe. Zero trophies.
And of course the criminal Al-Khelaifi is against a potential Super League. No longer any protection from UEFA or the French state due to France-Qatar military and business ties. After all France is selling 100's of billions worth of weapons deals to a country that will never use those same weapons and who already de facto is a US military base (Al-Udeid).
In which universe will such a thing occur? The EPL nowadays is not even remotely bigger/richer/more followed than those leagues COMBINED so in what universe would a potential and quite frankly extremely unlikely merger of said leagues, INCREASE the financial dominance of the EPL, which we all know, is mostly artificial in nature to begin with for obvious reasons?
And anyone thinking that somehow every non-EPL top club will sit back and watch the doping league (EPL) increase their economic dominance without doing anything to prevent this trend, is living in a fantasy world. Of course there will be a strong reaction and steps will be taken to prevent this from occurring. Whether a Super League emerges or something else. What is absolutely guaranteed is that there will be countermoves.
Either that or the only option that remains to be competitive, is to follow the route of almost every EPL club, QSG etc. and in the case of Barça and RM, sell out to become propaganda vehicles/sports washing instruments of similar Middle Eastern dictatorships, Russian/Chinese oligarchs, US billionaires, hedge funds, investment banks or whatever.
Because as I see it there is no way for anyone else to compete with this nonsense as long as notoriously corrupt institutions such as UEFA and FIFA are doing nothing and the EPL/UK government seemingly being fine with selling out due to mere profit. After all, London is probably the number 1 financial capital in terms of dirty money so this development is hardly a surprise.
guess what? The doping will continue, the gap between leagues will only increase,Barca and Madrid will continue to abuse their place in la liga at the expense of the rest of the league. And you can watch old replays of Spanish teams you don’t support winning European matches, if that makes you feel better about it. Nobody else cares. Hehe
What doping?
I think he means financial doping
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...ration-puerto-doping-case-in-cycling.amp.html
Many Spanish football teams and other sports teams were suspected to be doping in Spain but all the evidence was destroyed due to Spanish privacy laws.
hehe, of course I know Fuentes but I think CruyffMaradonaMessi meant financial, for the sheiks, FFP etc
The irony in these two paragraphs is almost too much to bear
Barcelona’s fans arrogance is infinite. If you don’t take them seriously, this thread is a laugh fest.
According to them, they are the best team in the world, Laporta is a genius, they will solve all their problems in months, and their situation is others (EPL teams, P$G, La Liga, Uefa, etc.) fault. They are quite a funny and delusional bunch.
I can’t wait for us to beat them in EL, and for Xavi to blame the grass’ length.
According to them, they are the best team in the world, Laporta is a genius, they will solve all their problems in months, and their situation is others (EPL teams, P$G, La Liga, Uefa, etc.) fault. They are quite a funny and delusional bunch.
I can’t wait for us to beat them in EL, and for Xavi to blame the grass’ length.
my bad, yes, financial doping. Thanks. Just winding up this other idiot.
So what makes the historically great Milan any different than City and co. Berlusconi did literally the same that city psg are doing now. Thr difference is back then a couple of millions got you the best of the best.
Barcelona and Real and Uefa along should understand this is simply not sustainable and having a super league or whatever will just increase the costs in football. Then you will have a 300 mil transfers with may players making like 50,60 mil a year.
And Barcelona was not one of the greats before Messi. They had on and off. They had freaking messi and couldn't take advantage and ended up 1 bil in debt because they were throwing money left and right for players like Griezzman,Dembele, Coutinho etc while offering exorbitant salaries and their PR machine was fooling people that they want to sign for Barcelona because its Barcelona not because they are offering much bigger salaries.
Barcelona and Real and Uefa along should understand this is simply not sustainable and having a super league or whatever will just increase the costs in football. Then you will have a 300 mil transfers with may players making like 50,60 mil a year.
And Barcelona was not one of the greats before Messi. They had on and off. They had freaking messi and couldn't take advantage and ended up 1 bil in debt because they were throwing money left and right for players like Griezzman,Dembele, Coutinho etc while offering exorbitant salaries and their PR machine was fooling people that they want to sign for Barcelona because its Barcelona not because they are offering much bigger salaries.
Barcelona were already a great club before Messi they just didn’t have a lot of European cup success but they still had 1 and numerous La Ligas.
As well as R9, Maradona, Cruyff, Stoichov, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Luis Suarez, Figo all playing for them before Messi, they’ve been a big club as long as I can remember.
Exact same with Milan before Berlusconi. They already had two European cup wins before that time.
Bayern are to Bundesliga as Real Madrid or Barca are to the rest of Europe.
Its amazing how many huge names have played for Barca and in their prime too. What is even more amazing is how they managed to let many of them go due to poor management.
Yes, I understood that it was financial doping. What did you mean? When did that happen?
Good. I hope the whole bunch goes to jail for what they did to the club, especially Bartomeu.
The club should be punished as well.
Only fair punishment is to give their next European opponents a choice of 3 Barca players for free.
Real Madrid don't really make many signings from La Liga. In fact they just fielded their first-ever 11 without any Spanish players.
The only current players signed from Spanish clubs are Asensio, Ceballos, Vallejo, and Odriozola. Two of them don't play at all and one was away for two years on loan to Arsenal.
The fact one has to sift through so much ranting and raving to find anything of substance is kind of annoying man. But yeah, this point is true and I shudder to think what an unstoppable animal Barca would become if they were state owned.
No, on top and with another humiliation of Madrid.
Laporta and xavi have done very well in a short amount of time.
Plays superbly today, midfield unit looks so class especially Pedri and Gavi
A good game from us, but Madrid looks poor after the WC pause. So it wasn't really an indicator of our strengh I think. The game against a strong United will determine where we stand overall. Until then we need to keep the lead in the league and try to win all the games. Madrid look like they could drop a few points in the next games, if they don't recover their form fast.
Looked like the Barca of old, their possession play and flair is unique. We’re going to have to be seriously focused and fit when we play them at the Nou Camp.
I’ve never been more glad that a user has limited posts per day.
I like Barcelona better with 4 midfielders, you have more control of the game and they combine better.
Now there is a very tight schedule, we will see how they respond.
I don't understand why Xavi doesn't give P. Torre a few minutes.
Now there is a very tight schedule, we will see how they respond.
I don't understand why Xavi doesn't give P. Torre a few minutes.
Why are Barcelona fans so insufferable?
Cause they live in the shadow of the more sucessful Real Madrid.
Because they pull their levers to pictures of Xavi and Iniesta
Barcelona looked impressive earlier tonight. Gavi and Pedri are so talented. This Europa League tie is shaping up to be very interesting.
Fixed for you.
They are playing well and look well drilled, although Madrid have been weak since the season restarted.
I think with our run of form and brilliance from players such as Bruno or Rashy, we will beat them.
What kind of set up are you playing these days? What are you expecting against us?
Xavi has done well with what he has IMO. The signings have been dumb for the most part, which is what you'd judge Laporta off. Lewandowski has been good obviously, the rest have been a waste of money (which was obtained by mortgaging the future..). Raphinha, Alonso, bellerin, kessie and Christensen have all been a waste of wages and you're just better without, and just going with the youth, IMO.
Christensen has been good for Barca, especially in the league.
He's played less than Martial has played for us this season! He's missed half of their games, that's hardly good.
Against teams of lower quality or that park the bus in their area a 4-3-3 with 2 pure wingers (Raphinha, Dembélé).
Lately with strong teams Xavi puts Gavi or Pedri on the left winger, going down to receive balls to control the game more. I think it will be how he will play the game against United.
Another example why simple stats don't show the reality. Christensen is one of our best defenders. He was injured in most of the games he didn't participate in. The exception were some games in September, where Garcia had a good form and Xavi tried him out for a few games. But it became clear, that Christensen is far superior to Garcia and he took over again quickly. Nobody in barcelona thinks Christensen was a bad signing, but on the contrary. He was a free transfer, doesn't earn too much and is very mature and serious in the defense. He was a perfect transfer for a weak defense.
but enough about your horrible takes you just got called out
Calling Christiansen a waste shows how little you have watched the team. Alonso and bellerin were on frees. Kounde and Lewa have been amazing signings.
I don’t think all of laporta’s signings have been great but most have been good. And I agree with you about xavi.
Barca still have room for improvement but considering how dire everything looked a year ago I’m glad with the current state of things. Just need to work on performances in Europe.