All hope is not lost. If Inter win their next game it won't matter how many levers Barca pull.
Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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You know the worst part? Inter plays at 6.45pm against Plzen so it's likely Barcelona is eliminated even before the game against Bayern
Ok, but in my post I spoke about what the table would look like if those results were to happen, not about what I want.
Some olympic gold deserving mental gimnastic here to justify today's disaster.
To actually say that you prefer winning the EL and focusing on other trophies like the Spanish Supercup than going far in the CL...
After levering god knows how many assets to be competitive on the top level again, and attract good sponsors, etc.
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Holy shit, there are Barcelona-fans here trying to argue that its fine for Barcelona to not qualify for UCL-knockouts?
Look, you can try rationalize it all you like, a club of Barcelona's size getting third place is a failure, even more so when you consider the investments you've made, you can't tell me that signing Lewandowski and not making R16 is acceptable, its simply not.
Is there a greater chance to win EL? Sure, but as somebody else said, there is no guarantee that you win it either, and economically, isn't a QF in UCL more than the price money for winning EL anyway? So, it doesn't look like there is an economic incentive to go to EL either.
Look, you can try rationalize it all you like, a club of Barcelona's size getting third place is a failure, even more so when you consider the investments you've made, you can't tell me that signing Lewandowski and not making R16 is acceptable, its simply not.
Is there a greater chance to win EL? Sure, but as somebody else said, there is no guarantee that you win it either, and economically, isn't a QF in UCL more than the price money for winning EL anyway? So, it doesn't look like there is an economic incentive to go to EL either.
Piqué is terrible if we had had Koundé and Araujo we would have won today.
Ok please tell us more.
Did you see Piqué? Have you seen Araujo and Koundé? It seems like they play in different divisions.
Piqué should retire already. I hope he, Jordi Alba and Busquets leave next summer. They are liabilities.
You are getting the band back together next year with Messi returning. What is Dani Alves doing these days?
You know the worst part? Inter plays at 6.45pm against Plzen so it's likely Barcelona is eliminated even before the game against Bayern
I think UEFA should adjust these games so they start simultaneously
Barca being Barca then. From dominating Bayern in that first half half, they've completely imploded. Not really surprising how they are in the Champions League these days. They'll still be happy if they win Liga bit seems more unlikely the longer this season goes on.
They only do that for the last round. Usually, it is very rare to see top teams eliminated with them having 2 games left to play. Probably going to happen now for a few. But normally this would only affect second rate teams that were likely to get eliminated either way...
I hope we don't get any of these players back. The future is in Pedri, Gavi, Araujo, Koundé, etc.
Unless Barca are winning right? How are those grapes working out for you?
Instead of taking a more rational, conservative re-build approach, Laporta decided to double down on the previous regime's doubling-down of their previously flawed strategy.
Barca fans must be addicted to drama and soap operas.
I suspect they are more like shrivelled-up raisins by now.
They will qualify. Plzen will get a famous European win against Inter and Barca will miraculously qualify.
The copium from all of these new gen Barsa fans is hilarious.
I feel genuinely bad for Lewandowski though. He’s a world class player who left Bayern because he felt coming to La Liga and turning Barsa around would give him a better chance to win a Ballon d’Or. And now he’s going to be playing on Thursdays instead
I feel genuinely bad for Lewandowski though. He’s a world class player who left Bayern because he felt coming to La Liga and turning Barsa around would give him a better chance to win a Ballon d’Or. And now he’s going to be playing on Thursdays instead
He should have scored against Bayern then.
They will order players to reduce wages if they failed to progress knock out games. Hopefully all their players will obey that..
.Real Madrid did the double
Duh. Of course I must
But also, it's one of the reasons why Laporta went that way instead of going for a slower, less risky strategy. They had to sell parts of the club off anyways, telling the socios they also couldn't expect to compete with Madrid for another season or two wasn't going to fly
Makes United fans on the Caf seem somewhat sane then.
They finished second last year.
To be honest they ain't spurs to finish third in two horse race.
A million points away from us, out of the title race by October, out of the CL at the group stages, failed to win anything
They were out that early because Xavi didn’t come in until mid way through the season, got them second all the while going to the Bernabeu and embarrassing Madrid on their own ground.
There was enough credit in the bank without mortgaging themselves to death so they can sign Alonso and Raphina.
It’s a weak excuse from Barca so they can go out and guilt free spend millions they didn’t have.
Well in his defense playing for Barcelona in LaLiga is still way more glamorous than playing any day in the bundesliga, plus his wife got her Social Media accounts boosted exactly how she wanted it. He'll live, especially because he and his family love their new life in the city.
Barca's board and the coaching team are 100% responsible for the new disgrace. As long as they don't do a clear cut with the old generation captains, the embarrassment will keep on going. They are the face of every Champions League disgrace starting with the loss in Rome. Club legends or not, if you are not good enough for today's ambitions, you need to step down or be stepped down by your superiours. Thankfully players like Puyol, Xavi and Iniesta knew extactly when to leave with their heads high up. They left as legends and will be always welcomed back. Pique, Alba, Busquets and Roberto will also leave as legendary players of course, but also as players which dragged the club down with them. Their farewell will be much cooler than of those 3 players I mentioned.
Pique always said he will leave when he isn't needed and he isn't good enough anymore. Well yesterday the whole world saw he isn't anymore. My 90 year old, half blind grandmother asked what he was doing on the pitch. He played like a third devision player. Let's see if he has enough self reflection to see it and steps down on his own. He doesn't need any money from the rest of his contract, he has businesses all over the world. Now we'll see if it was just empty talk for his fans.
Alba prooved since the disgrace against Liverpool, that he hasn't got the mentality anymore to keep on playing for Barca's ambition. A guy who cries during the halftime pause and an overall score of 3:1 mustn't put this shirt on anymore. In nearly every other big game from this onwards, he prooved it again and again. Of course he has here and there acceptable games, but this is not the ambition of barca having such a full back, who also focuses more on the referee and acting, instead on helping the forward line to score. Especially when his best buddy Messi left, it feels like he is isolated on the pitch. Even though he mostly stopped playing this season, him still sitting on the bench and being a part of the squad hinders development in my eyes.
Sergi Roberto was always an okayish player, who had the La-Masia advantage and a strong squad to make up for his faults. He just surfed the massive wave and on top, his winning goal against PSG gave him a new, massivly overpaid contract. After his injuries, he got completely useless for the club. Even as a substitute. While he does sometimes productive things in front, his defending skills are horrific. Arms behind his back and 3 meter safety distance from his opponent. Every attacking 5th devision player can give a good pass inside the penalty area, if his defender is Roberto, because he just watches them from a save distance.
Busquets is the least worse of them. He still plays good in the majority of his games and is important to build barca's game from the defense. BUT he just hasn't got the speed anymore against a strong press. In most of the big matches against top opponents, he is always at risk to lose the ball against a good pressing and gift the opponent a strong counter attack, which happened again yesterday and killed off any hopes as Inter used his mistake to take the 2:1 lead (Garcia defended in this situation horribly as well of course). You can't start a player, if you fear he can do game losing mistakes at any point of the game, no matter how good he is playing. Especially if you have a young and achievement hungry player like Frenkie on the bench. This is completely on Xavi. He just sees the good side of Busquets and hopes, this time he won't do any grave mistakes and again, the hope was shattered.
As long as those 4 players are still playing/sitting on the bench, blocking spots for young talents and good transfers, barca will not develop. Only with a clear cut, we can start again. This is my opinion.
Under Xavi they averaged 80 points over a full season. Enough to stay close, not enough to challenge. The clasico was an aberration, madrid had pretty much already won the league by then and didn't take the game seriously. Even beating or competing with madrid in H2H wouldn't change the fact they were at best an 80 points team going up against a 90+ points team
They were going to be good, but not enough to be competitive
They're not. You just got fecked by chance. The board might end up being responsible for putting you into an even greater hole depending on how the season goes financially
No real madridista would write something like this. Every clasico is a question of honor and pride. Only modern Social Media fans care only about throphies and not the feelings of every game itself. No matter if barca or madrid is far behind in the league.
Couldn't happen to a nicer club. Hope we get them in the EL and have to face De Jong.
Give Xavi a full season with his methods and you could argue they should improve. I’d also argue getting over 80 points belongs in the competitive category when Madrid got 86 points last year.
What really stands out with this Barca fans won’t stand not being competitive nonsense is last night. They’re basically out of Europe at the group stage again. I’m still sitting here waiting for the mass protests, the board resigning, Xavi looking for a new job etc but it’s just…nothing. If anything it’s talk of what they need and how important it is for the future to get Pique etc off the books that offsets CL qualification. Almost as if they understand the situation the club is in. It’s almost as if the excuse to spend hundreds of millions was based on lies just so they could justify spend it.
- Change your president every few years
- Vote for the one that promises the most transfers or whatever
- New president focuses on short-term decisions to gain popularity and win the next vote
- Watch your club going broke step by step
- *surprised pikachu face*
Let's all laugh at Barca. Hopefully they spend 300m next summer and pull more levers then go out in the group stages again.
It is De Jong's dream to go out at the group stages and not get paid his fully salary. He dreamed about that since he was little.
It is De Jong's dream to go out at the group stages and not get paid his fully salary. He dreamed about that since he was little.
Oh, it mattered to us fans. Though we got over it very quickly, quicker than if it mattered for more than pride. We already had our eyes on the actual prizes afterall.
It "didn't matter" to the players. They outright said so. They simply didn't take the game seriously because it had no bearing on the season, the focus by then was entirely on the CL
Barca fans are openly questioning Xavi right now actually. If they win nothing come the end of the season Laporta is going to be in trouble
Xavi back in April: "Barcelona is the most demanding club".
Financially, it doesn't look great for them if they don't qualify for the KOs, but purely on footballing terms this is Xavi's first full season as manager, the squad is in transition, they're trying to get rid of players on high wages. They do have a lot of very talented young players in the squad, Xavi has done enough to show that he knows what he's doing. These should be exciting times for Barca fans, it's a new beginning, the post Messi era.
I see a lot of people being overly critical of Barca, without any perspective. La liga will always be a 2 horse race, Ancelotti is going to leave very soon, Barca are going to get better, there's a good chance Xavi will win a few league titles in the next few years.
I see a lot of people being overly critical of Barca, without any perspective. La liga will always be a 2 horse race, Ancelotti is going to leave very soon, Barca are going to get better, there's a good chance Xavi will win a few league titles in the next few years.