I think that’s rank favouritism towards the big clubs. If they feck up their books by overpaying players they should bear the brunt of it and go into administration. None of this hand holding “oh we’re gonna try and get you to spend in your means to protect you”.
Barca trying to terminate the contracts of Umtiti and Pjanic
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‘More Than A Club’ 
Supports Barca.... should be messi
Surely the figure of Barca needing to trim their wage bill by €200m is wrong? I'm guessing that's annual. That works out at over 19 players salaries to get rid of if they were each on €200k a week.
I'm thinking it is actually €200k a week.
I'm thinking it is actually €200k a week.
yeah, the wage bill is something like £250m a year so they could need to get rid of £50m a year which is either 1 Messi or 5 players like Umtiti and Pjanic who are all on over £200k
Isn't he in something 110m+/year?
You say that but literally everyone has had a pay cut enforced on them and others are being forced out because of the mess & ffp. Messi knows all this and still doesn’t drop his demands. For someone who was going to be a legend at Barca because of his playing abilities he’s sure trying to mess it up by not doing his bit when the club really need him too
I wouldn’t rely on full grounds to bail anyone out, especially not Barca. Presumably they already put that in their forecasting and they know that they are fecked unless they take drastic action. Besides, there’s no guarantee those stadiums won’t be in lockdown again come winter
Read that Matheus Fernandes (who?) Is looking to sue Barca for terminating his contract after buying him in Jan '20 for €7m (rising to €10m).
Surely they can't go round terminating contracts on a whim? Seems Barca are heading for some serious problems unless they sell one of their gems like Fati because no one is going to help them out by taking their deadwood.
Surely they can't go round terminating contracts on a whim? Seems Barca are heading for some serious problems unless they sell one of their gems like Fati because no one is going to help them out by taking their deadwood.
They simply need to allow that they cant keep Messi.
Seems like there is quite a few potentially good deals to be done for a few clubs this summer, even clubs that before only could dream of buying players from Barcelona - especially players Barcelona even want to keep from a sporting perspective.
Wouldn't be surprised if City end up with the likes of Pedri and De Jong. Only stumbling block probably would be that Guardiola don't want to take advantage of his favourite club's dire situation.
Wouldn't be surprised if City end up with the likes of Pedri and De Jong. Only stumbling block probably would be that Guardiola don't want to take advantage of his favourite club's dire situation.
Yep.
They should've cut ties with Messi last season. Their whole transfer strategy has been a mess.
Can't pay? We'll take it away
Isn't that figure excluding Messi since he's a free agent?
Please leave facts out of this thread.
They probably think even a small chance of winning the case is good enough.
See fans like Daysleeper and then imagine a whole fan base of them.
Don't think you can afford €20
This club needs major punishment for how they tried to run this business.
This club needs major punishment for how they tried to run this business.
Griezmann can feck off with those wages...no wonder we didnt sign him the year before.
didnt realise he earnt that much. Jesus
800k a week for Griezemann always amazes me. He was very good at Atletico but not worth destroying the whole wage structure (not including Messi) for.
Shambles of a club. But I just have this feeling they’ll find a way to get out of it.
Shambles of a club. But I just have this feeling they’ll find a way to get out of it.
Haven’t really been keeping an eye on this whole situation but realistically what players are people actually expecting to go and what’s a likely line up going to look like for Barca next year? Will they reinvest, albeit on lesser paid players?
This club needs major punishment for how they tried to run this business.
Should add up to €671m, that was the prior to Covid cap and Barcelona used 100% of it I think.
Those numbers must be way too low.
Conceivably those are net amounts, after tax. Gross is double maybe, that would make sense.
Are those salaries pre-tax? And how much is tax in Spain, 45%-50% or?
Yeah, no. Market price is only a relevant term when you talk about standardized products (such as commodities) and Messi is as specialized/niches as it goes. Market prices are a result of supply and demand - Messi is in short supply while demand is low as well (due to systematic barriers such as lack of funding). I'm not saying he isn't worth what he is requesting, I'm just saying Barca are making a big mistake by accommodating him via wholesale changes.
I'm trying to understand your point of view but I failed.
It's after tax.
Gotta love how when we sign players it's always with the tax included to make us look like we're paying way over the market but when report Spanish and Italian teams the salary after tax deduction.
Wtf! De Jong is on 400K a week at 22 years of age?
They deserve everything coming their way. More than a club my ass. If that's the case you should have some leverage in salary negotiations.
They deserve everything coming their way. More than a club my ass. If that's the case you should have some leverage in salary negotiations.
Big fan of paying Sergi Roberto 200k a week also
Més que un club, is about the place of Barcelona in catalan culture. It's not about football.
Barcelona in a bit of a Messi.
There's surely some spillover there. As in playing for Barca should mean more than playing for a club with less cultural heritage.
Sergio Dest‘s wage looks pretty bonkers. He’s an unproven kid. Sergi Roberto is mediocre too.
Not in the context of Més que un club and catalanismo unless for some reason foreign players suscribe to it. Even among catalan people it's not unanimously followed or respected, among players I'm only sure about Guardiola and Oleguer being concerned by it, basically a minority of catalan players.
Time for a cheeky bid for Frenkie and test Barca's resolve. Finances look so comically bad that even the non-Messi crown jewels must be for sale. FdJ would be a stellar signing for us.
I'd even take a punt on Dest too as an attacking alternative to AWB.
I'd even take a punt on Dest too as an attacking alternative to AWB.
Exactly. They're just making sure Frenkie is paid just enough for him to put food on the table. Assuming he's paying the Barcelona player tax rate of 0% then he's on about £17,777,000 annually.
The ingredients of the perfect bacon sandwich costs £1.58; 4 rashers of Denhay dry cured smoked back bacon is £1.07, 1 Crosta & Mollica wrap is £0.40, 2% of a 650ml bottle of Heinz ketchup is £0.04 and 2% of 500g of Lurpak spreadable is £0.07.
The money he's on annually is equivalent to roughly 11,251,266 bacon sandwiches. Assuming that Catalonia has a fair few vegetarians and people who don't eat bacon for health/religious regions, that's probably enough for 2 bacon sarnies for people in the region.
I think that puts things into perspective.
hard pass. there's no way in hell we should be paying 350k a week for a 22 yr old mf that's not even a top player yet, our wage structure would be completely ruin. Save that money for a top striker next summer.
Jesus, and people have called our players 'mercenaries' over the years.This club needs major punishment for how they tried to run this business.