Ballon d'Or 2021 | Lewandowski robbed again

Jorginho won the champions league and the Euro. If that doesn't give someone the ballon'd or, what is the standard anymore ?
Jorginho was not best player in the Euros and he wasn’t the best in Champions league, top five is about right.
 
Tbf Messi might not have deserved it this year but then he probably deserved to win it more often in the 2010s because as everyone agrees he was the best footballer from that time period.

So we are now treating the award as a concession trophy? In that case Lewandowski should have won as he was clearly the best player in the world the year France Football made the daft decision to cancel the award eventhough all major club football competitions were still decided on the pitch.

This is honestly the biggest reason for the push back here IMO. The last year should have counted for something in terms of individual awards and in losing the cointoss to Messi this year (there are absolutely arguments for Messi winning it on the merit of this years performances) it feels like another major robbery towards him.

The sensible thing to do from the start by France Football would have been to take both the last and this year into consideration for the Ballon D´or and then it would have been undoubtly be Lewandowski who would have deserved it the most.
 
I think Lewy should've won 2021 Ballon d'Or.

Stats from club competitions + internationals during calender year 2021 (from Transfermarkt)

Robert Lewandowski: 62 goals + 9 assists in 4346 minutes = 1.47 goal/assist per 90

Erling Haaland: 44 goals + 15 assists in 3920 minutes = 1.35 goal/assist per 90

Kylian Mbappe: 45 goals + 25 assists in 5277 minutes = 1.19 goal/assist per 90

Karim Benzema: 41 goals + 13 assists in 4791 minutes = 1.02 goal/assist per 90

Lionel Messi: 40 goals + 17 assists in 5180 minutes = 0.99 goal/assist per 90

So Ballon D'or is only based on stats?

Then why didn't Messi win in 2018 when he had over 90 goal contributions? They gave it to Modric, who wasn't and never will be better than Messi.

Give it a rest. Messi had plenty good stats and led Argentina to a title.

Messi leading Argentina is an incredibly strong story that’s hard to top even for Lewandowski. Messi has 57 G+A in 2021 so far, so in terms of stats he isn’t as good as Lewandowski, but the Copa America narrative was simply too great.

Just can’t believe Messi won in 2021 of all years and didn’t win it in 2017 or 2018 when he should have.

Of course stats matters, why do you think Messi & Cristiano are two of the GOATS in football history?

Lewandowski was 100% robbed and the stats I provided speaks for itself
 
Of course stats matters, why do you think Messi & Cristiano are two of the GOATS in football history?

Lewandowski was 100% robbed and the stats I provided speaks for itself


By that criteria alone (G+A), Messi would have 10 more balon de ors than the next person. Stop moving the goalpost
 
Sneijder won all he could in 2010 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.

Ribery won all he could in 2013 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.

Lewandowski had great numbers in 2021 - we hear that fecking Copa America matters.
 
It's funny how suddenly the Copa America is one of the greatest competitions in the world and the winner should definitely be rewarded. This is the first time I can remember that the winner of the Copa America also won the Ballon D'Or. It's honestly only because Messi won it that is gained this grandiose allure :lol:

Brazil won in 2019 and Allison didn't even make the top 5 despite having winning the UCL and having a great domestic season. Sanchez won the best player in 2016 but didn't even get in the top 30 that year, despite also having a great start to the 2016-17 season as well.

Ronaldo 1997
 
By that criteria alone (G+A), Messi would have 10 more balon de ors than the next person. Stop moving the goalpost

Of course, although this is 2021 Ballon d'Or and Lewandowski should've won it.
 
Lewandowski not winning the Ballon d’Or this year is the biggest robbery since Lewandowski not winning the Ballon d’Or last year.
 
Shit award, glorified by moronic fanboys.

No idea why anyone takes this seriously, apart from the players who have contract bonuses and monetary value riding on this.
 
I think Lewy should've won 2021 Ballon d'Or.

Stats from club competitions + internationals during calender year 2021 (from Transfermarkt)

Robert Lewandowski: 62 goals + 9 assists in 4346 minutes = 1.47 goal/assist per 90

Erling Haaland: 44 goals + 15 assists in 3920 minutes = 1.35 goal/assist per 90

Kylian Mbappe: 45 goals + 25 assists in 5277 minutes = 1.19 goal/assist per 90

Karim Benzema: 41 goals + 13 assists in 4791 minutes = 1.02 goal/assist per 90

Lionel Messi: 40 goals + 17 assists in 5180 minutes = 0.99 goal/assist per 90
How many did Cannavaro scored when he won it? And Modric?
 
The media, Argentina and the fans that don't like Messi put so much importance in Messi not winning Copa America, when he finally won it, it seemed like the champions league.
 
The sensible thing to do from the start by France Football would have been to take both the last and this year into consideration for the Ballon D´or and then it would have been undoubtly be Lewandowski who would have deserved it the most.

They claim they did! :wenger:
 
Sneijder won all he could in 2010 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.

Ribery won all he could in 2013 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.

Lewandowski had great numbers in 2021 - we hear that fecking Copa America matters.

Messi with great numbers & Copa > Lewa with great numbers & BL. it really isn't that complicated.
 
Sneijder won all he could in 2010 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.

Ribery won all he could in 2013 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.

Lewandowski had great numbers in 2021 - we hear that fecking Copa America matters.

Its a combination of individual performances and team achievements. While Sneijder had a 9/10 year team trophies-wise, individually he was on a different galaxy than Messi, nobody is touching 2010 Messi individually. Sneijder wasnt even a top 3 that year for a reason.
 
He contributed more than Lewa until Aug 2021 and was clear favourite. Everyone knows that's the period where Ballon D'Or is decided.

Then why is it always awarded and advertised for the entire year, if by design it completely ignores around a third of the time when highest level football is regularly being played?
 
Why are you all taking it so seriously??

It’s like footballs version of Eurovision

Who cares who wins it, it’s a load of crap anyway
 
Messi with great numbers & Copa > Lewa with great numbers & BL. it really isn't that complicated.
Messi playing in Ligue Un > Lewandowski playing in Bundesliga as far as FF is concerned is a less complicated equation.
 
Eduoard Mendy losing out to Donnarumma despite him being PSGs reserve goalie.
 
They claim they did! :wenger:

Wait, what really :lol:? Yeah, then it is a farce. Nobody in their right mind would argue that Lewandowski was not the overall superior football player in that timeframe.
 
Messi playing in Ligue Un > Lewandowski playing in Bundesliga as far as FF is concerned is a less complicated equation.

The journalists are from all over the world and only a few of them work for FF, the ones working for FF also don't follow that logic at all.
 
The journalists are from all over the world and only a few of them work for FF, the ones working for FF also don't follow that logic at all.
I knew I’d get a bite out of you for that one :lol:
 
Dropped vs Chelsea a few days before Messi wins the Ballon D'or, Ronaldo will be going in hard on a Carrick Shaped punch bag right now.
 
Sneijder won all he could in 2010 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.

Ribery won all he could in 2013 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.

Lewandowski had great numbers in 2021 - we hear that fecking Copa America matters.
Maybe these elements all matter - the trophies as well as individual stats.
 
[Messi] to Lewandowski: "Everyone knows and we all agree that you were the winner last year. Hopefully France Football will give you the Ballon d'Or 2020. We all believe you deserved it and I hope you can have it at home.


That is the speech of a guilty conscience that knows he just robbed a man in public daylight and can't believe his luck that he got away with it.

The talk that he ‘would have won it’ in 2020 is pointless as they cancelled it for no reason + I would say he maybe would have had a 10% chance of winning it against Messi back then too. At club level Messi had basically the same season back then and Lewa had a worse season despite winning CL. Messi would have walked it in 2020 too and he’s absolutely walking it in 2022 unless Ronaldo wins CL or WC.
 
It's funny how suddenly the Copa America is one of the greatest competitions in the world and the winner should definitely be rewarded. This is the first time I can remember that the winner of the Copa America also won the Ballon D'Or. It's honestly only because Messi won it that is gained this grandiose allure :lol:

Brazil won in 2019 and Allison didn't even make the top 5 despite having winning the UCL and having a great domestic season. Sanchez won the best player in 2016 but didn't even get in the top 30 that year, despite also having a great start to the 2016-17 season as well.
So the winner of the Bundesliga should definitely be rewarded then ?

This is an individual trophy, it's actually quite simple, Messi is a better footballer than Lewa. End of.

Lewandowski has scored 14 more goals over the course of the year.

But Messi has 8 more assists, completed 185 more dribbles, created 63 more chances, 10 more big chances, scored 1 more match winning goal, won more points because of G/A, has 14 more MOTMs.

If you want to base it purely on goals + assists then Messi would have 9 Balon d'ors. Roy Makaay would also have won in 2005. (CR7 would only have 1).

I get it your player didn't win but let's not make it out to be as if it's some great robbery when he only had 6 more G+A than Messi throughout the year and Messi is clearly ahead on every other metric in a footballing aspect.
 
Lewandowski's fans are just bitter that their hero didn't get the award by putting 5 past every tinpot Bundesliga opposition.

Guaranteed to win the league title every year, Lewandowski starts every season without any competitors for top goal scorer.

I still can't forget the year Lewandowski hilariously lost out to Aubameyang for top Bundesliga goal scorer despite being part of a far superior title-winning squad. Did Lewandowski blame himself? No. He blamed his Bayern teammates.

And now he's blaming the Balon D'or organizers for a grand conspiracy of not giving him what he thinks he deserves. It's always somebody else's fault isn't it for Lewandowski?

Face it, he's not any better than a vast array of strikers out there, including the likes of Mo Salah. If Mo Salah couldn't win it, he sure as hell doesn't deserve to win it.
 
So Ballon D'or is only based on stats? Then why didn't Messi win in 2018 when he had over 90 goal contributions?

Because his stats in the Champions League and the World Cup were nothing special. He scored 6 goals in the Champions League; there were many people ahead of him. He scored 1 goal in the World Cup.