Assuming Mou signs what would happen to Ryan Giggs?

If Paul Trollope hadn't left his role as assistant manager at Wales to take over Cardiff then I'd have said Giggs would have been a favourite for that job, same with Rodgers taking over at Celtic as there's been rumours for a long time that Celtic liked Giggs.

Personally I think he should stay on with us as assistant manager and we should look to bring in Gary Neville and Paul Scholes as coaches too as they have not only a winning mentality but a United winning mentality, they'd be respected by the players but also Gary is a very respected coach and tactically brilliant although not a manager.
 
davidmichael said:
If Paul Trollope hadn't left his role as assistant manager at Wales to take over Cardiff then I'd have said Giggs would have been a favourite for that job, same with Rodgers taking over at Celtic as there's been rumours for a long time that Celtic liked Giggs.

Personally I think he should stay on with us as assistant manager and we should look to bring in Gary Neville and Paul Scholes as coaches too as they have not only a winning mentality but a United winning mentality, they'd be respected by the players but also Gary is a very respected coach and tactically brilliant although not a manager.
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Tactically brilliant based on his Sky Sports analysis?
 
Sandikan said:
What's with this sort of disrespect to a playing legend! Incredible.
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Giggs doesn't have any right to inherit the job. He was a legend as a player, who knows as a manager. He just seems to be lurking there waiting for the job with first Moyes and now van Gaal.
 
I hope he also gets the sack, I don't see the point in him staying with us as assistant manager for the sake of him being Ryan Giggs.

If he is serious about wanting to be a manager, he should take on a team to coach and it isn't going to be united. If he turns out to be a fantastic trainer and all that he can expect to get the job as united manager one day. If he turns out to be a wannabe manager with no actual talent to be one, than he can just live out his life like all the rest of our ex players.
 
Ideally I'd like to see him go elsewhere for a while, spread his wings, and get some managerial experience. If Mourinho wants him to stay and be his assistant though, and Giggs is happy to continue, then I've got no problem with that. I'd be pissed off if he's imposed upon Mourinho, but Mou might genuinely want someone like Giggs to stay on for some continuity etc.
 
He needs to leave the nest and go actually manage a club. You cannot expect to become a manager at this level without actual experience.
 
I bet part of the deal is that Giggs remains assistant manager.

The club don't have the balls to sack or demote a playing legend, that's why he stayed when LVG was hired, despite him failing with Moyes.

If Mourinho is coming in, then he needs to have his own staff and full control transfers if his tenure is to be successful.

None of this 'bringing in the Nevilles and Scholes' to coach bollox. This isn't a fecking dreamland where the Class of '92 go on to dominate world football at United managing in their 60's with Giggs as the boss. Get real!
 
davidmichael said:
If Paul Trollope hadn't left his role as assistant manager at Wales to take over Cardiff then I'd have said Giggs would have been a favourite for that job, same with Rodgers taking over at Celtic as there's been rumours for a long time that Celtic liked Giggs.

Personally I think he should stay on with us as assistant manager and we should look to bring in Gary Neville and Paul Scholes as coaches too as they have not only a winning mentality but a United winning mentality, they'd be respected by the players but also Gary is a very respected coach and tactically brilliant although not a manager.
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What is that?

Also, how do you know that Gary is tactically brilliant when his real jobs when you can show tactics (not play shit to the sheeps) was as Hodgson's assistant (when England didn't pass the groups) and Valencia's manager when he almost relegated them?
 
Who has Mourinho previously used as assistant manager. Is it a role he puts a lot of value on? Does he bring his own team in with him or what?
 
GE said:
I bet part of the deal is that Giggs remains assistant manager.

The club don't have the balls to sack or demote a playing legend, that's why he stayed when LVG was hired, despite him failing with Moyes.

If Mourinho is coming in, then he needs to have his own staff and full control transfers if his tenure is to be successful.

None of this 'bringing in the Nevilles and Scholes' to coach bollox. This isn't a fecking dreamland where the Class of '92 go on to dominate world football at United managing in their 60's with Giggs as the boss. Get real!
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Van Gaal has always kept some of the coaches from the previous regime. The problem for us was that the previous regime were Moyes and his musketers, so there was nothing to keep from that shit. So, I guess it was either Giggs or someone like Brian McClair. Considering that Giggs was also involved with the first team, I think that it was an easy choice.

On the other side, Mourinho usually doesn't keep anything from the previous regime, let alone an assistant manager (who has friends on the media who beg for him to get the job). I will be very surprised if Giggs will remain as United's manager.
 
I really don't get the Giggsy-hate. Why would it be such a bad thing to have him assist Mourinho?
 
17 Van der Gouw said:
25 years of amazing service, goals, assists, loyalty and trophies.

Some of you are such wankers.
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Getting the same opinion... strange how he can get such abuse for mistakes in his private life. In a footballing context he clearly has a lot to offer. That amount of success doesnt come from knowing nothing about the game, and he didnt get the job at United based on nepotism, if that was the case theres a lot more who would have been in first.
 
Green_Red said:
Who has Mourinho previously used as assistant manager. Is it a role he puts a lot of value on? Does he bring his own team in with him or what?
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Andre Villas Boas at the beginning, Rui Faria since then.

He brings his own team and doesn't keep anyone from the previous regime.
 
As if the people posting on here never made mistakes... Fecking alcoholic beerbelly carrying louts judging on the internets.
 
Revan said:
Andre Villas Boas at the beginning, Rui Faria since then.

He brings his own team and doesn't keep anyone from the previous regime.
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Continental regime then Im guessing... will that work at United? He'll hardly be allowed to do a complete overhaul will he?
 
Green_Red said:
Continental regime then Im guessing... will that work at United? He'll hardly be allowed to do a complete overhaul will he?
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On coaches? I think that yes, very easily. All the other coaches bar Giggs have been Van Gaal's coaches, while it is time for Giggs to get outside of his comfort zone.

Saying that, I would have liked if we keeps Hoek. He has been always highly regarded as one of the best GK coaches around, and probably wouldn't be healthy for De Gea to change yet another coach.
 
Giggs is never going to be United manager till he manages somewhere else successfully. So that's what he should do. Why is this still being discussed?
 
Revan said:
On coaches? I think that yes, very easily. All the other coaches bar Giggs have been Van Gaal's coaches, while it is time for Giggs to get outside of his comfort zone.

Saying that, I would have liked if we keeps Hoek. He has been always highly regarded as one of the best GK coaches around, and probably wouldn't be healthy for De Gea to change yet another coach.
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Will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
 
Giggs is my 2nd favorite Utd player of all time, but why the hell should he get the chance of managing a club as big as this when he hasn;'t proved himself managing other clubs?
 
JarleA said:
I really don't get the Giggsy-hate. Why would it be such a bad thing to have him assist Mourinho?
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He was given his role as an assistant based on his knowledge of the club and skill as a player. He's assisted two failed regimes. He needs to go elsewhere to see if he has the chops to make it back here. Failing that he's certain to be offered an ambassadorial role, but to just assume he should be able to coach and inspire because he was an immense player is pretty naive.
 
He should go and get a managerial job to show whether he has what it takes. I don't know where this weird sense of entitlement among certain fans on behalf of Giggs comes from. Robson didn't get it, nor did Keane (nor Bruce for that matter).
 
I'd like him to stay influencial within the club, but am happy with whatever Mourinho decides.
 
ruuds left boot said:
gosh there's a lot of cnuts on here these days.

The man is a legend so go feck off with your disrespect ... you're worse than Livepool scum.

Jeeez this place really has gone down the crapper ... sad, sad days
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Yes, and the biggest cnut of them all is Giggs himself. The man is a truly awful human being, and as much as I idolized him throughout his career, I find it impossible to overlook his sociopathic behaviour just because he played a lot of games for us. Respect had to be earned. And he lost his amongst a huge section of the fan base with his behaviour.

On a practical side, he should broaden his experience elsewhere if he ever wants to manage Utd.
 
JarleA said:
I really don't get the Giggsy-hate. Why would it be such a bad thing to have him assist Mourinho?
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Because forcing someone the new manager doesn't want on him is not the best way to go about things. Also, Giggs has been part of two failed managerial regimes. What gives him the right to stay?

Remember when Houllier and Evans were co-managers because Liverpool didn't want to change their "bootroom" culture? That's what we're doing now with all this proposed sentimental appointments.
 
Zidane stayed at Madrid for several years and then got the job. If Giggs stays and we have a great team in 2-3 years then I wouldn't mind him much. But right now we are not in that position, otherwise I think Mourinho wouldn't be coming and Woodward would give Giggs the job.
 
Want Giggs out as well. I can't really stand the sight of him, hes a horrible human being and I can't see how the club would want a character like that in a leadership role with the club.
 
Revan said:
Andre Villas Boas at the beginning, Rui Faria since then.

He brings his own team and doesn't keep anyone from the previous regime.
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In his recent spell he kept Steve Holland as assistant, Christophe Lollichon as goalkeeper coach, Chris Jones the fitness coach, Mick McGiven the opposition scout, and Paco Biosca medical director. Pretty much the only people he brought in were Silvino, Rui Faria, and Jose Morais.
 
JarleA said:
I really don't get the Giggsy-hate. Why would it be such a bad thing to have him assist Mourinho?
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It's a campaign that devilish has been working on for what seems like eternity. After years you are bound to find a few supporters.
 
united_99 said:
Zidane stayed at Madrid for several years and then got the job. If Giggs stays and we have a great team in 2-3 years then I wouldn't mind him much. But right now we are not in that position, otherwise I think Mourinho wouldn't be coming and Woodward would give Giggs the job.
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Zidane was actually hands-on managing a team though (Real Madrid Castella). Giggs has nowhere near the same amount of experience.
 
MDFC Manager said:
Zidane was actually hands-on managing a team though (Real Madrid Castella). Giggs has nowhere near the same amount of experience.
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Yeah but I doubt ppl would change their mind much if Giggs gains similar experience. I don't think most will be satisfied with just that kind of experience.
 
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