Tbf he wasn't helped by an abysmal Sterling.
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He's a better choice than Rose ATM and that's hilarious since we were heavily linked with him as a Young replacement for so long.
Sterling was crap.
However, Young is impossible to link well with anyone because he's playing like a winger that wants to cut inside on every ball. The winger on his side will also want to do the same. In alternative world the winger should be cutting inside and a left footed fullback overlaps him to open space for a cross. In case of Young, both him and the winger cut inside leaving the flank with no one.
He's OK, but one thing I didn't get why does he have to foul all the time, even in situations where it's obvious that his team would have the ball in a solid position, even if just for a throw in.
Average performance not a bad one. Should have had an assist which would have raised it to a good performance.
I agree although I didn't actually see him cut onto his right too often in that game. He certainly didn't put too many crosses in, I remember one 2nd half where he looked so obviously uncomfortable on his left crossing in and it went to nobody, he would've been better off cutting back inside.
It's certainly not the worst I've seen him play.
He is so poor it is hard to understand how he finds himself starting at the world cup
Thought he was pretty good in the first half actually and would have had an assist but for an awful finish from Lingard.
Dreadful 2nd half though and I was surprised Rose didn't come on.
Dreadful 2nd half though and I was surprised Rose didn't come on.
The Scenes when he’s our starting left back next season
Can’t bloody wait
Can’t bloody wait
Agree. His crossing deliveries and defensive diligence will keep him starting for us and England which is fine but if we want a more cohesive attack having our fullback and winger competing for space in the same area will always be a problem. Some roles can't be judged by goals/assists alone
And exactly why I don't want Rose here. If it's not someone like Sandro or Tierney then I'd rather we give Shaw one final chance when he's had a proper pre-season.
Abomination of a performance. Guy is mediocre at best. So frustrating to watch him receive the ball and move it backwards. Easily one of the most dislikeable characters in football and a cheat. If we start the season with him as first choice then we deserve to win nothing next year
He always does okay IMO, even well. Put in his normal fantastic cross to set up a great chance for Lingard. But the overall balance of the team is hindered by having him cut in all the time. Even if Rose/Shaw have not been as good individually, having players more capable of getting in behind defenders on their natural foot always balances the team better. (especially with Maguire being a right footer)
England aren't playing with wingers though, they're playing 3-5-2 with wingbacks. Young in this case IS the width, so he should be the 1 taking the ball forward/putting in crosses.
He just didn't have his best game, often was 2v1 in wide areas and struggled to make anything happen. Put in a few nice crosses though, should have had 1 assist for Lingard in the first half.
He fits in the United team because he knows how to win and he can do a job when asked to focus on defending. For England, it was beyond his ability to get up and down the left flank and link the play and at this stage mentality isn't such a big factor.
Hmm.. What?
Why is he dislikeable? Also knocked the diving on the head when SAF called him out on it.
Embarrassing post.
I thought he was fine yesterday. Good delivery and always seemed to be available for a pass. Faded in the second half, but all of England's players did.
This is a shocking post for a United fan to post.
He had a decent game last night, first half he was v good , second half yes he did tail off but so did the rest.
I need to ask , you are a United fan ?
He was caught out of position a couple of times defensively yesterday. Will be punished against the better sides, was decent going forward though
Terry Butcher hates him, cannot understand why he's getting in ahead of danny rose.
I hope we don't mess with the LB position now. Young has made it his own and he deserves to play next season.
oh well if Butcher hates him
Should be dropped for Rose
Passing ball to young is almost like hitting against a wall, wont go forward and will most likely come back to you after a cut back or to a player next to you. Most pointless player on pitch yesterday and if LB position is played by a actual left footer we will see a much better version of this England team.
He should be replaced as a starting player for united, good to have in the squad provided he is happy with continuing as one.
He should be replaced as a starting player for united, good to have in the squad provided he is happy with continuing as one.
Young isn't good enough for us anymore.
How can people not see it. Sure his crossing is great but his defending is poor and he has 0 ability to pass and always just boots it down the line.
If he and Valencia are still are starting fullbacks for the majority of next season we will struglls greatly. It was clear they where a major problem last season as well.
Should be replacing both but replacing at least 1 is a necessity. Dalot is likely too young to displace Valencia so Ashley really needs to be replaced.
Left back number one priority
How can people not see it. Sure his crossing is great but his defending is poor and he has 0 ability to pass and always just boots it down the line.
If he and Valencia are still are starting fullbacks for the majority of next season we will struglls greatly. It was clear they where a major problem last season as well.
Should be replacing both but replacing at least 1 is a necessity. Dalot is likely too young to displace Valencia so Ashley really needs to be replaced.
Left back number one priority
Asking for trouble that. He and Valencia aren't good enough to compete with city. Valencia age has caught up to him and Ashley while he does a job is still not a great left back. Defensivly suspect.
Must replace one of the two
Half of it, is the outward 'confidence and experience'. By that I mean the very obvious not backing down, getting stuck in there, followed through passes/tackles and basically exaggerated body language/style of play.
It makes it out like he's a proper cor-blimey trier with showy dedication and professionalism. Think Joe Hart.
Strip that away and all that visible 'effort' is just a bad right footed player playing at left back with a few times of good delivery.
I'm not doubting his actual efforts on the pitch but most of it is poor quality backed up with style that fools people into thinking he's busy and involved.
I'm absolutely serious here. During Young's suspension, if Shaw played those games exactly the same as he did but with a few unncessary full bloodied tackles, sprinting to get a throw in, getting in a tussle and getting the crowd to cheer with some roaring, I wouldn't doubt it might have changed Mourinho's opinion of him.
This is exactly what I think too. He tries to make himself look busy without doing anything meaningful. I've also noticed he remonstrates with the ref in almost every foul. Something no doubt will appeal to managers like Mourinho who likes his players to be 'fighters'.
Shaw has had plenty of games where he's played OK at worst yet he gets hooked off at half time and then Young will come on and do exactly the same, sometimes even worse. He isn't a good passer, he doesn't give natural width and make overlaps often getting in the way of the LW. Anyone who plays LW with Young behind will struggle massively. Whether that's Martial, Sanchez or Sterling or whoever. Both United and England need to realise he isn't the answer for LB.
Funny when people say Shaw is left footed and would do a better job. He won't. Shaw has pace and power but since the injury all confidence is gone.
Even basic instincts are gone. It's a shame and maybe there is time but please stop saying Shaw is a better option. He is not. Young is a better footballer even as an over 30 converted winger who is right footed. Tells you something doesn't it.
Even basic instincts are gone. It's a shame and maybe there is time but please stop saying Shaw is a better option. He is not. Young is a better footballer even as an over 30 converted winger who is right footed. Tells you something doesn't it.
Not sure I would say that Young is a better footballer. Shaw has shown he is about more than just getting in to a crossing position and seems to have more footballing intelligence. He can pick out a pass. I would say that Shaw is also a better defender but I’m guessing Jose doesn’t think he is consistent enough or can trust him to do what he wants for 90mins.
I think also when people mention the left foot thing it’s because in game there are many situations where the ball gets to Young and to make it a dangerous situation all he has to do is run to the byline and put a ball up the channel so Lukaku can get the service he thrives on. However Young doesn’t attack that space, instead he holds position or cuts it back to put the ball in on his right which often just kills all the momentum and danger. Hence why many will mention the left footer would be an improvement. Being honest Darmian was better at attavking that space and putting a ball in off his left when he played there for us.
Then Southgate is an idiot, Young will never provide width playing in the left side.
Of course he can, he just cuts inside and crosses with the right instead of going down the line.
It depends what you want from the team, but we've got a lot of height and Kane is great from crosses.
He cannot, he can do absolutely nothing with his left foot, he can just run at defenders but will ALWAYS cut in to cross, that is not providing width, that is cutting in.
Providing width doesn't mean pinging crosses with stronger foot, Young offers width by staying wide and stretching play, after that his go to move is to cut back. Mahrez offers width by staying wide and then when he is on the ball, he cuts in.
Yes I am a Utd supporter. May I ask what parts of what I wrote you took an objection to?
His performance for England was poor, as many others have also pointed out on here
The guy is a cheat. he has been pulled up many times for cheating in games
The guy is dislikeable.
We wont win the Premier league with mediocre players like Ashley Young
Young is a fullback while Mahrez is a winger. A winger is supposed to cut in, but a fullback should be hugging the line all the time to provide other option while the winger is cutting in and grabbing defenders with him. Young plays the fullback position as if he's still a winger, and that's because he's right footed.
Young does not "cut in" to cross! He cuts back. He more often than not stays close to the touchline while crossing, but shifts the ball backwards to get it on to his right foot. Young crosses from near the touchline - what he does not do is cross from the byline.
In addition, his crossing from the touchline with his wrong foot is still more effective than most. It would be nice to have a wide player who can also cross from the byline, but maybe you can't have everything (e.g. Rose and Shaw are more capable at getting to and crossing from the byline, but their final deliveries when there are typically still crap and so ultimately they are less useful in generating assists than Young who crosses from deeper).
Nothing to do with the point I was making, which is providing width doesn't mean player shouldn't cut in.
Also not sure how you came up with Winger is supposed to cut in and FB should be hugging line.
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