Could he be converted into a wingback? His workrate has always been good?
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Would be pretty weak and easy to get past I imagine. Doesn't have the physicality to be solid defensively, imo.
Good performance from a very good player. It's so sad many United fans can't get their heads out of their rectums concerning Young.
He's miles better than Valencia. He was injured for most parts in the last 2 seasons & his performance was rubbish last season because we had a manager that was wholesomely a simpleton.
I hope Young keeps this up & gives us a good service this new season. He's a very good player and has more ammo to hurt the opposition than Valencia.
He's miles better than Valencia. He was injured for most parts in the last 2 seasons & his performance was rubbish last season because we had a manager that was wholesomely a simpleton.
I hope Young keeps this up & gives us a good service this new season. He's a very good player and has more ammo to hurt the opposition than Valencia.
Indeed. Opinions are built over time.
doesn't he always impress in pre-season though?
Good goals last night but he really does need to go, performances in pre-season friendlies won't sway my opinion of him.
Good goals last night but he really does need to go, performances in pre-season friendlies won't sway my opinion of him.
We are quick to forget that Young was quite a dynamic player when he first signed (the 5-3 against Spurs comes to mind). He was fast, had a good shot, and I remember him being a refreshing alternative to one-trick Valencia, who ironically has had a similar decline. If somehow LvG can bring him back to life, he would be a valuable asset.
Could he be converted to a decent CM? Ala Schweinsteiger v0.001
He seems to be pretty decent at all the fundamentals. As far as I remember Schweinsteiger was exactly the same as a winger.
He works hard, can pass decently, has a good shot. He wouldn't necessarily need to beat a man, which is probably his biggest downfall when playing wide.
Just a wild thought.
He seems to be pretty decent at all the fundamentals. As far as I remember Schweinsteiger was exactly the same as a winger.
He works hard, can pass decently, has a good shot. He wouldn't necessarily need to beat a man, which is probably his biggest downfall when playing wide.
Just a wild thought.
Also, it's a real shame Young was never able to really kick on his game to the next level.
Anyone remember how outstanding he was at Watford?
I think he is another on the large list of players who could never rise to the pressure of Man Utd.
Anyone remember how outstanding he was at Watford?
I think he is another on the large list of players who could never rise to the pressure of Man Utd.
Depends on what LVG's thinks of him really. If he really wants to give everyone a clean slate then Young has got off to a very good start... Was rather disappointed at how Young got into the team over Lingard and Zaha. Plenty of pre-season games yet to come and hopefully Lingard or Zaha grab their opportunities and show their potential which would hasten Young's exit...
Can't really read too much into his performance. We know he can finish, and he should score more goals but two good runs to break their defensive line
He was really impressive in 07/08 when O'Neill was comparing him to Ronaldo. He scored 8 goals and had 17 assists in EPL that season while winning young player of the year in EPL the next season. He seems like the type of player who excel in mid table teams and look out of depth at the top teams.
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played well but still not at United standards. He needs to move on and we need to get as much as we can for him. Yes he finished well last night but really didn't look into it much as i do think his true colours will shine against better teams. He most likely will be sold. Personally, thats what i am hoping for.
He has more chance of being kept than Nani anyway.
He was twice a member of the PFA Team of the Year at Villa too. Was also impressive in his debut season here. The diving and some injuries that hampered his form have soured a lot of people's opinions of him, but he's far away from being a poor player.
Happy for him.
The biggest positive. He didn't play on the left and didn't cut in and make aimless crosses to the far corner.
The biggest positive. He didn't play on the left and didn't cut in and make aimless crosses to the far corner.
No, shit performances have been the reason everyone wants him sold
Think he might be utilised in the same way LVG used Kuyt for the Netherlands.
On the other hand if he keeps playing like this his value must be slowly creeping up and a club might be more inclined to snap him up
On the other hand if he keeps playing like this his value must be slowly creeping up and a club might be more inclined to snap him up
Poor form which came from niggling injuries every time he built up a bit of form. Our wingers, with the obvious exception of Januzaj, were poor last season but Young was the only one who had any real period of form. He's 29 now and unlikely to get his form back so I'd move him on too if we received offers, but he gets more stick than anyone else and people say he's a shit player which simply isn't true.
Hopefully a couple of goals against a shite MLS team won't save him.
No. He's been shit regardless of niggling injuries.
Well he wasn't shit in his first season, the only season he didn't get niggling injuries.
Pleased for him. Now granted, he is a diving sissy and one of the most infuriating United players i've ever seen, but some of the vitriol he gets from out fans is quite shameful imo.
He got a lot of stick last season, and rightly so, but keep in mind we had a complete charlatan as our manager and none of our other wingers were covering themselves in glory either.
He got a lot of stick last season, and rightly so, but keep in mind we had a complete charlatan as our manager and none of our other wingers were covering themselves in glory either.
One performance against LA Galaxy in a pre season should not get anyone thinking he is good enough now, still a poor player, and united will still need a top class winger, which united are heavily short of, just like defence and midfield
He is still a poor player, for the standards of MUFC he's above average player
He was only good in the first 2 months. Valencia and Nani were better for far longer periods.
He's a good little player, but yeah going by the standards of United players in recent years he isn't top notch.
That just isn't true, he was good for the vast majority of the season. Granted Valencia and Nani were also excellent that season.
What a strange post.
You seem to be saying that a poor player would be considered above average "for the standards of MUFC". Are you sure you meant to type that?
Just above average, he's got ability no question, more ability than valencia, but for the standards united have set for decades he is not a united standard player
If I remember correctly, most of his end product was in the first 2 months, maybe 3 months in. He was overshadowed by Nani in the first half of the season before his injury and then Valencia really picked it up in the 2nd half of the season.
I'm even more confused now. Those bits in bold completely contradict each other.
he's a poor player who is an above average player who isn't a Utd standard player but is an above average player by Utd standards.
What's not to get?
Even Ashley young played well today. This fact is helping me keep grounded after today's performance.
I said he's got ability, does not mean it's contradicting. Just because I said he's above average does not mean he's very good, meaning he's an ok player, still a poor player for united standards
Maybe van gaal can robben him.
Two wonderful assists from Herrera helped things though.
Januzaj if anyone. Can dribble past players, is more creative than Young, and is left footed.
I like him. There, I said it.
I actuay felt he did okay under Sir Alex, had a great start but then got injured and the whole diving and twitter issue left him low on confidence. Had a poor second season and even worse third one under Moyes, but then again, so did everyone else.
His greatest weakness does seem to be crossing (at United anyway) so as a winger, that's shocking; but if there is a change of system and the ball is on the ground most of the time, I think the likes of him and Nani may shine.
He was one of the three I really wanted out this summer (the others being Anderson and Nani who have such poor attitudes) but from memory, Young was one of the few that looked like he cared when he played. He is a confidence player and from the looks of it, LVG loves giving the players confidence. Everyone should be given a clean slate under LVG, and if he continues to impress, I don't see why we shouldn't give him another chance.
His greatest weakness does seem to be crossing (at United anyway) so as a winger, that's shocking; but if there is a change of system and the ball is on the ground most of the time, I think the likes of him and Nani may shine.
He was one of the three I really wanted out this summer (the others being Anderson and Nani who have such poor attitudes) but from memory, Young was one of the few that looked like he cared when he played. He is a confidence player and from the looks of it, LVG loves giving the players confidence. Everyone should be given a clean slate under LVG, and if he continues to impress, I don't see why we shouldn't give him another chance.
What really impressed me vs Galaxy is that he made what seemed a conscious effort to stay on his feet rather than simulate contact. A couple of instances (Ander's through balls on both occasions - the second one resulted in a goal) I'd have expected Young to go down but he didn't, fairplay to the man.
Can't believe people are being fooled by a decent Young performance against basically a pub team.
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