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2014-15 Performances

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6.3 Season Average Rating
Appearances
29
Clean sheets
9
Goals
2
Assists
6
Yellow cards
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No surprise he's more effective when he doesn't actually have to try something other than strike the ball. He's got a good shot on him, usually. It's out wide where he's offered next to nothing since he's been at United. He can't go past players and his crosses are mainly overhit. He scored a couple of good goals last season, but when he played on the wing he was just completely ineffective. Full backs generally had their easiest day of the season when Ashley Young ran at them. Cut back, overhit cross, rinse, repeat. Oh well, now he's scored 2 against a beaten LA Galaxy we should give him another chance. Lingard scored a few last year too on tour and he probably wont make it.
 
I'm dead certain he isn't ever going to make it here , whooping poor teams when they are already down means nothing. This merely means that someone may be impressed and hopefully we can get rid of him for a good price
 
Lets just play him up front and change his name via deed poll to Smashley Young once and for all. He'll score 35 a season up front no drama.
 
Give him some credit, he did bury his chances when they were presented. It doesn't change my opinion on him, but I will say that if we were to play with wingers, I'd much rather have Young starting than Valencia. Of course both are terrible, but at least Young can maybe add something to attack once a game, as opposed to Valencia who winning a corner is as good as it will get in an attacking sense.
 
manutddjw said:
Give him some credit, he did bury his chances when they were presented. It doesn't change my opinion on him, but I will say that if we were to play with wingers, I'd much rather have Young starting than Valencia. Of course both are terrible, but at least Young can maybe add something to attack once a game, as opposed to Valencia who winning a corner is as good as it will get in an attacking sense.
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If it was between young and Valencia, I'd take Valencia.
I think Valencia would be useful at rb/rwb and rm/rw, especially late in a game...he has pace to burn and can still put in a cross.

Young is a one trick pony and a coward. He occasionally scores a goal or two and that seems to make folks in here forget his shortcomings.
Also, the salary he is on at the moment is atrocious.
 
I'll give him credit for last night, but one game doesn't change my attitude to him at all. Goodness, have a look at some of the match day threads of last season when he played.....bugger me, there was hardly a soul who didn't want him out. Now...after a couple of goals and decent play against a side which, let's be honest, is hardly up to the heights of most of the permier league teams, people suddenly want to keep him and think he might wizzardly become a great player for us...

get rid....end of.
 
Hope we sell him, and sell him soon. Aside from lacking the quality, he doesn't have a place in the 3-5-2 system (nor would he have one in a 4-3-3, being behind several others); we're maxed out for forwards and number 10s, and he's not good enough to be a wing-back. The best that he's been for us isn't good enough, and 3 full seasons proving that aren't all erased by 2 goals scored against an LA Galaxy second string side already down 5-0.
 
I'll repeat this view that I have made about a million times.

What did Young do wrong last season? Moyes picked a formation that clearly didn't suit us or the majority of our players. If you sell Young for being rubbish last season then we'd end up with 6 players (that's being generous.)

Now I like Valencia, he gets away with an awful lot. Why? He offered nothing for the majority of last season.

Assumng we do go 3-5-2, we'll still need a back up plan. 4411/4231 requires wingers, now your not going to bring any winger of note in to play back up unless you sell Rooney. Young and Valencia may aswell stay for the next season and see where we are in August 2015.
 
A lot of the scorn at him stems from the fee and the wages, I think as fans we pay too much attention sometimes to this kind of thing.
 
United22 said:
I'm dead certain he isn't ever going to make it here , whooping poor teams when they are already down means nothing. This merely means that someone may be impressed and hopefully we can get rid of him for a good price
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Define 'making it.'

Bebe isn't going to 'make it' here as he will never be a regular in the first team. Young has 'made it,' we just think he's a bag of shite.
 
MancunianAngels said:
I'll repeat this view that I have made about a million times.

What did Young do wrong last season? Moyes picked a formation that clearly didn't suit us or the majority of our players. If you sell Young for being rubbish last season then we'd end up with 6 players (that's being generous.)

Now I like Valencia, he gets away with an awful lot. Why? He offered nothing for the majority of last season.

Assumng we do go 3-5-2, we'll still need a back up plan. 4411/4231 requires wingers, now your not going to bring any winger of note in to play back up unless you sell Rooney. Young and Valencia may aswell stay for the next season and see where we are in August 2015.
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Young has been shit for 2 of the 3 years he's been with us not just last season. Not to mention he's an unrepentant diver. Even his so called great first year with us was overrated. The shit crosses, cowardly backpasses and percentage play were all on display then. It's just that his confidence really fell after his Sunday League showing at the Euros.
 
mic.m said:
Young has been shit for 2 of the 3 years he's been with us not just last season. Not to mention he's an unrepentant diver. Even his so called great first year with us was overrated. The shit crosses, cowardly backpasses and percentage play were all on display then. It's just that his confidence really fell after his Sunday League showing at the Euros.
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His first few months he was good, after that downhill from there
 
United22 said:
I'm dead certain he isn't ever going to make it here , whooping poor teams when they are already down means nothing. This merely means that someone may be impressed and hopefully we can get rid of him for a good price
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I wish he was whooping poor teams when they are down
 
foolsgold said:
A lot of the scorn at him stems from the fee and the wages, I think as fans we pay too much attention sometimes to this kind of thing.
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Even if we'd paid a lot less for him, he'd still be getting a lot of stick because he's just rarely been great in a United shirt. Sure, people might not be moaning as much about the price/wages and how we paid too much, but instead people would likely complain about why we ever signed him in the first place. There are some players who get way too much criticism due to their price tag - Young isn't one of them. With his level of performance since he came here, people would be complaining about him no matter what.
 
Every 2/3 years, United fans seem to develop a genuine hatred for one of our own players. I find that bizarre.
Fans seem to find excuses for other players.
 
Calling it now, Young is gunna have a very good (great might be pushing it) season.

The main quality he brings to a football pitch for me is his movement and runs, he's always lively and I think with the way we are expecting to play this season, he's gunna be important.
 
Man Utd 3:2 Roma
Was decent again. And put in a great ball for Keane.
 
I thought he was decent in a flying in and getting booked sort of way. Not overly convincing defending, but he made decent ground down the right a few times from the wingback role
 
Thought he was awful as wing back. But I'm not judging, not his position obviously and he was great against LA.
 
I think he'll end up staying. I reckon Nani and Zaha will be sold provided we can get buyers. He's not very good but you can't knock Young's effort.
 
Thought he was OK actually, can still put a good ball in (which Valencia rarely seems to anymore) but also gave the ball away to Roma in a dangerous area. I've said before that I'd rather keep Nani and get rid of Young, but Young has been better than both Nani and Valencia so far on tour.

Whether he could still be a part of our team next season is a different question though, because you wouldn't think he's a natural wing back. I don't think he's ever been asked to cover for Evra in the past for example, we'd normally play Buttner or move Evans over. He has been used by Ferguson in some of the big games with Valencia during the 12/13 season because of their willingness to get back and help out the full back, however I'd be worried if we played against some of the better league teams with Valencia and Young as right and left wings backs.
 
saivet said:
I think he'll end up staying. I reckon Nani and Zaha will be sold provided we can get buyers. He's not very good but you can't knock Young's effort.
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Fully agree. Nani is more talented than both Young and Valencia on his day, but the other two will work their arses off even if they have a bad game whereas Nani can look very disinterested. Look at the commitment Valencia showed when his eye got busted up vs. Bayern. Young might dive a lot but he actually will get back if the full back gets caught out of position.
 
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Think he still has a future here, don't expect him to be sold this season. He shows commitment, work rate, tactical awareness, versatility and is a useful team player, which are a good fit for LVG's teams.
 
He'd really surprise me if he staked down a claim for a wing back position here.

Decent performance but he'd be crucified against top opponents in a game that matters judging by his defensive contributions.

A lot of interesting positional experiments conducted by LVG thus far.
 
He's done well to not let the twitter haters get to him and then perform well on the pitch. He's proving to be a better winger than Valencia so far and put some nice deliveries in.

Only thing I remember Valencia doing in that game was over hitting a cross.
 
It was obvious that Young doesn't suit the wing back role. He's very weak, defensively, and often overcommitted on some of his challenges. Going forward as a winger, however, he was alright and looked pretty confident. His cross to Will Keane was very good and almost got us a 4th goal were it not for Roma's right back intercepting the cross.

He's certainly performing better than last season, at least, when he looked devoid of confidence and didn't have much of an idea of what to do on the pitch.
 
I guess playing as a wing back is easier than playing on the wings for Young.

But part of me things that the obvious thing to do, would be to buy a real winger and then there is no need to play 3/5 at the back. It is all well and good playing a formation/system to suit the squad, but it needs to be balanced as the £30 million United just spent on Shaw looks a waste in the current formation considering his attributes.

I know it is way to early to make any conclusions...but yeah if LVG wants to get Young into the team then wing back (reduced attacking and defensive duties) might be his best option
 
Its amazing how people will continue to justify their views of players even when the player plays well. It just sticks in peoples throats. He made a couple of foals, big deal so does everyone all over the pitch. His runs behind people are great, and his goal scoring is best in the club from wide positions. He's made for the LVG system.
 
surf said:
Think he still has a future here, don't expect him to be sold this season. He shows commitment, work rate, tactical awareness, versatility and is a useful team player, which are a good fit for LVG's teams.
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Totally agree man. He's showing that he really wants to be here with his efforts & thats what we want to see from our players.

I was extremely anti-Young before the tour, but i've seen enough of him to take my hat off to him.

Comparing Young to Nani on tour, tells the whole story of who needs to be shot of & who has the fight to play well for the team & LvG..
 
Fortunately for Young he seems to be having his twice a year path of form where he has 3 or 4 decent performances at just the right time to avoid a well deserved axe. He's not suited to RWB defensively but did get one good cross in which is more than Valencia managed.
 
Van Gaal traditionally likes to have a front 3/4/5 that interchange.

Young can do that.

He wouldn't be first choice but could potentially fit in easily if we have injuries/suspensions.
 
foolsgold said:
A lot of the scorn at him stems from the fee and the wages, I think as fans we pay too much attention sometimes to this kind of thing.
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We work to a budget at United and it's a lot smaller than many of the teams we compete against.
 
Red Hand Devil said:
Totally agree man. He's showing that he really wants to be here with his efforts & thats what we want to see from our players.

I was extremely anti-Young before the tour, but i've seen enough of him to take my hat off to him.

Comparing Young to Nani on tour, tells the whole story of who needs to be shot of & who has the fight to play well for the team & LvG..
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Yep, fair enough to be honest. I still really don't rate him at all as a player, and I'd rather we didn't have to play him. But he is at least very obviously giving it his all. Nani looks like he couldn't care less.
 
Man when I saw this thread bumped on a night when we had some transfers out news I got my hopes up.
 
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