When we look back at Arteta's time, at the two year mark, (this would be very early 2022), many Arsenal fans were starting to call for his head, perhaps not quite as much as with EtH because we were prepared perhaps a bit more for the long term. It is only in the second half of the 2021-2022 that I personally started to see more promising signs. We developed a style of play that was recognizable. So, it certainly wasn't an immediate impact. Some Arsenal fans have still not warmed up to Arteta. I would suggest it is because of how they had been accustomed to expect an Arsenal manager to run the place as Wenger did They will point to Arteta'lack of trust in the development of young players etc...I wouldn't say there has been complete buy in into Arteta's methods. I think it's a bit naive what those supporters want sometimes but that's their viewpoint.
I said at the end of last season that third place was obviously a good result for EtH, but he had not developed a football philosophy or style of play. It looked more all like grinding out results from individual games. The league standard went up a bit this last season, so this deficiency was more glaring. I would be concerned at this point that he doesn't have that ability to set up a system that can dominate in 75% of Man Utd games.
Maybe you can explain to fans on here who think Arteta had a style from his first season and it was easy for Arsenal fans to see the project.
The thing about when you are building the style of play, you need players to suit it, I remember Arteta was very counter attacking 5 at the back and defensively solid, then when he was allowed to form his team you saw his style being developed.
The board backed him and his vision, soometimes its about getting rid of players. He was allowed to get rid of Mustafi, Ozil, Kolasinac, Wilock, Torerira, Maitland Niles, Guendouzi, Willian, Chambers, Auba, Luiz. Even though most were on a free, he then replaced those with better quality, even though Lokonga, Tavares didnt work, you didnt call for his head because he signed players that were not good enough.
Instead, they backed him again in Zinchenko, Jesus, Viera, Trossard and the like.
You need to have a base to build on, availibility of players needs to be there too.
At United, fans rather get rid of the manager rather than AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, McTominay, Evans, Martial who we know are not good enough.
I had a poster saying we should have re-signed DDG.