You’re defending us? I could cry buddy.
I’d rather win a trophy and finish 3rd vs winning nothing and finishing 2nd.
I’d also rather be Arsenal and Arteta going into next season vs where we’re at.
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I’d rather win a trophy and finish 3rd vs winning nothing and finishing 2nd.
I’d also rather be Arsenal and Arteta going into next season vs where we’re at.
Titles are won over a whole season and not on form in a selected period of time.
Congrats to Arsenal. First title since Wenger and they did it in some style I must admit. Liverpool were not that close to them in the end!
I don't recognise titles by Abu Dhabi wearing the face of an extinct football club from the UK to play in our league, even before the cheating.
I don't recognise titles by Abu Dhabi wearing the face of an extinct football club from the UK to play in our league, even before the cheating.
Yep, slowly different clubs are finding out the full City effect.
In time the Villa/Tottenham ilk will appreciate it when they realise City are reducing their champions league chances.
Villa are in this one off year, where Chelsea and us have a nightmare, but they'll need to make the most of it.
Yes, Klopp is brilliant and ond of the best managers of the past 15 years. He did fantastic work at Liverpool. But the money Arteta has spent has very much made Arsenal a stronger side and they are in a very good position to challenge and potentially win it next year. At some point, sure, he is going to have to delover trophies but for now I would assume Arsenal are happy to be properly challanging again which they havent really done in, what, 15 years?
People said that last summer and they didn't win anything this year again.
There is going to be a lot of pressure on him to win something next season.
‘Cooking’ for 5 years. The food is burnt.
In a pub full of Arsenal fans.. what a joyous occasion.
Why you judging it on Net Spend? I can look at that and put up an argument that Michael Edwards managed pull Barca's pants down for Coutinho, managed to do the same to other clubs for a few of the guys like Rhian Brewster, and then they lucked out when Saudi managed to take a washed up Fabinho and Henderson off their hands.
How much did the respective squads actually cost, both in terms of fees and wages, is a much fairer way to look at it.
I agree but Im not sure if they will cope with the pressure next season of having to win something.
This, feck 'em.
Not really lucking out, it's running a football club in a successful manner and net spend is good for assessing if a club is doing so. If you're buying high and selling low that's an issue.
We were the first club City fecked over. They bought our players and replaced us in the top 4 after they first won the lottery. This narrative that Arsenal fans are only just now finding out about City is a bit odd
They didn't, but they still improved. Again, Arsenal came from a very bad position and are now in a very good position. That's job well done IMO.
Probably because Arsenal fans insisted that the players that went weren't any loss, and never made much fuss about the overall situation as it affected us mostly.
Yet being bitter as anything about Van Persie because you'd considered us your big rivals.
Better season but I'd rather be in Arsenal shoes for next season.
It's a major issue if you can't afford to do it, or spending outwith you means, or your breaking rules.
Football finances are more complicated than Transfer In vs Transfers Out, that's only part of the equation. There's a whole trench of other revenues and costs that dictate how a club is run.
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united have found a loophole in that we never manage to sell any of our players.
To an extent but they will need to win something very very soon.
It's also a major issue if you win nothing.
City replacing Arsenal in the top four affected United mostly? Seriously?
They didn't even start challenging you until years after that. Wenger was always talking about their cheating and us being sustainable, we were the first club to kick up a fuss about it.
Could not be more confident that the right people are in charge of the club. Not disappointed today (though I was worried we were blowing it when the City game was 2-1 ). Been a great season and we have come so far from the dire late Wenger years. We have no divine right to be good - I don't take it for granted at all. Just need to enjoy it while it lasts.
). Been a great season and we have come so far from the dire late Wenger years. We have no divine right to be good - I don't take it for granted at all. Just need to enjoy it while it lasts.Only if your 1 of these football fans that think if you don't win a trophy everything else is just failure, like the guy earlier who said he'd rather finish 15th and win the League Cup.
If that's the case, then there's probably no point in about 80% of clubs existing now, including your own unfortunately.
At some point, sure. But that point isn't here as far as I'm concerned.
Arteta should get manager of the year for taking it to the final day but they'll likely engineer it so Klopp gets it as a parting gift.
City dont exist to me so Arsenal are the real Champions as far as im concerned.
City dont exist to me so Arsenal are the real Champions as far as im concerned.
I mean, yeah? That's why managers get sacked? You think if Arteta continues without winning anything he won't eventually get sacked?
Not being funny but why are we getting shit off an Everton fan for not winning trophies
Managers get sacked for all sorts of reasons. Not winning major trophies is very rarely one of them. Which makes sense seeing as Pep has won 6 of the last 7 titles.
I’m finding it quite amusing and I need a little amusement right now.
I don't think coming second to those cheats should be seen as a disappointment.
Managers at the top clubs will get sacked for not winning trophies, yes.
If Arteta continues to not win trophies, do you seriously think he won't be sacked?
Didn't realise that you were the gatekeeper of football.
I think the calculus from our board will be a little more complex than that. It seems like you disagree, but that’s cool - it takes all sorts.
If he continues getting +80 points in the league without winning any trophies, he will be there for a long time. Most likely longer than Pep, and when he fecks off, the league becomes a lot more winnable.
It's actually very rare someone gets sacked for that. I can't remember any manager for a top club in Premier League being sacked for that reason.
I'd say it's unlikely unless someone obviously better is available.
I'd be very surprised. You can afford giving time at the start but after upping the spending year on year and with a squad in it's optimum, you need to take that chance for the trophies as it will cycle round and the other clubs will start catching up.
I think he finds it funny that the fan of team that hasn’t got close to winning a major trophy in decades seems to be suggesting that trophies are all that matter.
I disagree with that notion when a Real Madrid fan says it, but I completely understand where they’re coming from. Whereas an Everton fan boiling everything down to trophies is basically saying that you support a club that is a complete irrelevance. There’s a fair bit of cognitive dissonance there.