Are PSG a failed project?

[always_hoping]

Better managed and coached team than previously in the CL but doubtful if they'll be clinical enough to win it out this season.

 

[giorno]

Lets be real, they simply have an overall better “team” now than they did with Neymar and Mbappe.

Not sure about that. The 21/22-22/23 squads were pretty scary, and even before I think overall they had better teams on paper, just not in practice due to injuries. They're definitely more functional now though, but let's not forget, they made a CL final and a SF in '20 and '21

 

[Iker Quesadillas]

Nah, what they got wrong, it's not having proper Coaches to deal with big names. Also they were very close before, even way closer than current situation

Think people just forget. They were in the CL semis last year!

 

[Real Name]

I like this team.

 

[Deco10Legend]

The champions league is a cup competition, anything can happen.
They have been to a final.
This team is enjoyable, young exciting players that work as a team without big egos.!(maybe dembele a bit).

 

[Pintu]

Think people just forget. They were in the CL semis last year!

And very unlucky to fail to score against Dortmund…

 

[TsuWave]

Neves should be a United player, as should Doue.

Don't get why we didn’t move for both

 

[Red the Bear]

Their mental resilience seems to have gone up a notch.

 

[giorno]

Think people just forget. They were in the CL semis last year!

Which they bottled in true PSG fashion

 

[Hammondo]

Not sure about that. The 21/22-22/23 squads were pretty scary, and even before I think overall they had better teams on paper, just not in practice due to injuries. They're definitely more functional now though, but let's not forget, they made a CL final and a SF in '20 and '21

I would say with 2-3 buys they could be the best they have ever been. They don't need to be crazy buys, just decent upgrades.

 

[SilentWitness]

Would be funny if Villa beat them.

 

[Kwabs]

Lets be real, they simply have an overall better “team” now than they did with Neymar and Mbappe.

Are we reaching this conclusion because they've reached the quarter finals of the Champions League though? Because the Neymar/Mbappe team did a near quadruple, winning all their domestic trophies (back when France also had a league cup) and losing in the final of the CL by a solitary goal.

Or is it just that this team is more 'likeable' without the big ego stars? They may be more likeable, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are a better team. That remains to be seen.

 

[WeePat]

They are waayyy more likeable as a team now than they were in their Mbappe/Neymar era. I'll give them that.

 

[IrishRedDevil]

Stunning midfield.

 

[El Jefe]

First PSG team since pre Zlatan that didn’t have a player with a massive ego. Actually their 2016/17 team was pretty sound but that’s the one that choked the 4-0 lead against Barca. That was a well balanced team but didn’t have the full backs or wing quality of this current side.

CL winning teams never carry passengers off the ball unless you’re peak Ronaldo or Messi. PSG now have a young hardworking side with quality.

 

[MaxZorin]

If psg win the CL this season, the pro-Qatari commentariat will become utterly unbearable on these pages.

Fair play psg dumping out scouse, but they're still an odious cancer in their own right

 

[That_Bloke]

I would say with 2-3 buys they could be the best they have ever been. They don't need to be crazy buys, just decent upgrades.

They're in dire need of striker and just can't keep wasting chances like they did against Liverpool.

That said, it's a joy to watch them play.

 

[Lay]

They're in dire need of striker and just can't keep wasting chances like they did against Liverpool.

That said, it's a joy to watch them play.

They should have pushed for Osimhen. Not sure if Luis Enrique wants a striker though.

 

[giorno]

Dembelé has 29 goals for the season

They don't need a striker, they need to stop missing chances

 

[RoyH1]

Much more "team" now that they don't have big name superstars.

Vitinha is an amazing midfielder. I would love to have a player like that in our team.

 

[JediSith]

Not sure about that. The 21/22-22/23 squads were pretty scary, and even before I think overall they had better teams on paper, just not in practice due to injuries. They're definitely more functional now though, but let's not forget, they made a CL final and a SF in '20 and '21

They have a better team now. One that hasn’t peaked but will likely grow and get better every season.

 

[adexkola]

If psg win the CL this season, the pro-Qatari commentariat will become utterly unbearable on these pages.

Fair play psg dumping out scouse, but they're still an odious cancer in their own right

Aye, PSG winning the CL results in more positive opinions on the Caf about Qatar the country and their monarchy

 

[Hammondo]

They should have pushed for Osimhen. Not sure if Luis Enrique wants a striker though.

I really don't think he suits a team like psg, they would want a more technical player.

 

[DannyCAFC]

Neves should be a United player, as should Doue.

Don't get why we didn’t move for both

Even if you did (which you may have privately) - why would either have chosen United over PSG?

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Aye, PSG winning the CL results in more positive opinions on the Caf about Qatar the country and their monarchy

Tagline still as relevant as ever.

 

[TsuWave]

Even if you did (which you may have privately) - why would either have chosen United over PSG?

We weren’t 14th when they moved there and had just won a trophy and the sentiment was different?

United isn't some minnow - and in fact, plenty of players come here for different reasons, monetary, as well as relish the challenge of the generally considered most popular league - at the biggest club in said league.

Competition for roles at United is also of a lower quality - Doue for example, would most likely be a starter rather than having to duke it out with Kvicha, Barcola and Dembele (when he's playing wide)

 

[DannyCAFC]

We weren’t 14th when they moved there and had just won a trophy and the sentiment was different?

United isn't some minnow - and in fact, plenty of players come here for different reasons, monetary, as well as relish the challenge of the generally considered most popular league - at the biggest club in said league.

Competition for roles at United is also of a lower quality - Doue for example, would most likely be a starter rather than having to duke it out with Kvicha, Barcola and Dembele (when he's playing wide)

It was different but how much? The consensus was still that they were a bit of a mess, and they'd still finished 8th in the league and missed out on the CL football. Meanwhile PSG won the league again and made the CL semi-finals, and let's be honest should have beat Dortmund over both legs and made the final.

I know United are a club steeped in history and the PL is a much bigger competition than Ligue 1, but I don't really see a reason either would have gone their over PSG considering their respective fortunes on the pitch. Especially Doué given it means he can also stay in his home country which probably aids his national team prospects.

(Also considering your timeline highlighting when they actually moved, Doué also wasn't competing with Kvara at that point)

 

[That_Bloke]

They should have pushed for Osimhen. Not sure if Luis Enrique wants a striker though.

Osimhen isn't technically good enough.

It might be enough for the Ligue 1 but the CL is a whole different animal. Barcola ain't it and they will be punished in the next rounds.

 

[RedStarUnited]

Are we reaching this conclusion because they've reached the quarter finals of the Champions League though? Because the Neymar/Mbappe team did a near quadruple, winning all their domestic trophies (back when France also had a league cup) and losing in the final of the CL by a solitary goal.

Or is it just that this team is more 'likeable' without the big ego stars? They may be more likeable, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are a better team. That remains to be seen.

Oh I am with you, I think if Neymar was fit more often they would have gone further. And yeah they havent done anything yet, but they look more of a team and not reliant on one individual.

 

[TsuWave]

It was different but how much? The consensus was still that they were a bit of a mess, and they'd still finished 8th in the league and missed out on the CL football. Meanwhile PSG won the league again and made the CL semi-finals, and let's be honest should have beat Dortmund over both legs and made the final.

I know United are a club steeped in history and the PL is a much bigger competition than Ligue 1, but I don't really see a reason either would have gone their over PSG considering their respective fortunes on the pitch. Especially Doué given it means he can also stay in his home country which probably aids his national team prospects.

(Also considering your timeline highlighting when they actually moved, Doué also wasn't competing with Kvara at that point)

You asked a question and I gave you an answer - a valid one at that. I mean, ask Yoro. The idea of a player choosing United over other clubs isn't surreal nor mythical. It's fecking Manchester United.

We weren't 14th. The sentiment was different. We'd just won a trophy, with new ownership and the belief we could get on an upward trajectory. There are a multitude of reasons as to why Manchester United > PSG. Then, now and forever - even if they're currently a better run club and a much more competitive team. If you don't see it, you have that right - doesn't change those factors exist, and that it happens - ask Heaven, Chido Obi

Even if Kvara wasn't there then, it doesn't change the point I made - competition at PSG is of higher/better quality than at United - Barcola and Dembele still exist. I can't think of a player that would keep him off the team here (though this might be personal bias).