To think that Kudus was in the same team when we bought him ! So annoying. Ten Hag is a criminal.
Antony (out) | LOAN to Real Betis
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That’s a lot better than expected in terms of wages. The discrepancy in reporting around what Antony gets paid is ridiculous. If Betis can afford to pick the bulk of it up we can assume it’s definitely not around the £200k mark. About £100k sounds right.
I read his wage is around 150k but because of the no-CL clause/bonuses it is currently c. 105k.
Unsurprisingly it seems that the reported £200k per week salary was including every possible add on or bonus he could receive, or just straight up made up.
One gone (for now at least). Hopefully Rashford follows soon
That's a pretty good result, all things considered.
I feel his wages have always been reported in a very hypocritical manner - his base wage is probably around that (100k) with several potential bonuses, and people have been saying he's crap and on 200k (which, if he was reaching, would show he wasn't crap).
Anyway, hope his loan goes well, he gets some appearances and we can sell him for a decent fee (all things considered) this summer.
Yeah I will be watching with interest.
At least being on £100k a week (not 200) will make it easier to try and sell him if he has a good 6 months.
Think Mudryk is the only worse transfer in PL history. But Chelsea didn't play him every week for almost two seasons.
84% of his wages?
I suppose this is Betis paying us back after not letting us sign Joaquin all those years ago.
I suppose this is Betis paying us back after not letting us sign Joaquin all those years ago.
I reckon he has probably been around that 150k mark when you were in the CL and the 200k mark was with any additional bonuses which he likely never reached.
Even 100-150k wage is pretty poor business as it was a 5 - 7.5x wage hike.
That "likely" is doing some heavy lifting
Antony has been bad business all around, but the actual wages aren't really the issue - coming in on that transfer fee (even if it hadn't been the final one, but the one reported early in the summer) was automatically going to put him in the 100k+ bracket.
Aye, that's fair enough.That "likely" is doing some heavy lifting
Antony has been bad business all around, but the actual wages aren't really the issue - coming in on that transfer fee (even if it hadn't been the final one, but the one reported early in the summer) was automatically going to put him in the 100k+ bracket.
Mudryk is fast which alone scares defenders, even if he doesn’t use it effectively enough. Antony doesn’t even worry championship level defenders, he’ll jiggle about and then pass it backwards, all the defender has to do is stand there.
Are you able to post the source for this? I'm interested in how this was worded because - as per both the UEFA & then subsequent PL rulings this season- clubs should not be able to amortise an assets beyond 5 years and this would be a rolling into a 6th for Maguire.
I think the reason for that is Maguire's contract dating back to before the rule was changed
Interesting, I need to read the full article again when the ruling was done - seems strange that they would leave this loophole open though.
Presumably same way Chelsea are able to amortise guys like Mudryk for 7 years, it was signed as a 6+1 year deal before the rule changed.
From Critchley's article about the financial situation:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6080398/2025/01/23/manchester-united-transfer-cash-problem/
Good to see his wages aren't that big. So in summer even if Betis decide not to buy him, there could be buyers and we may even get like 20m euros if he does well on this loan.
If we freed up £8-£10 million from Maguire re-signing and Antony going to Betis then think what could be saved moving Rashford and Casemiro on even by paying some of their wages which we’ve apparently refused to do and are ‘relaxed about the situation’
Personally wish Antony the best at Betis as the better he does the more likely it is someone will buy him for at least book value so he doesn’t go down as a loss as far as PSR is concerned and it’d free up a big chunk of wages too.
Personally wish Antony the best at Betis as the better he does the more likely it is someone will buy him for at least book value so he doesn’t go down as a loss as far as PSR is concerned and it’d free up a big chunk of wages too.
Oh Mudryk is for sure the better player, but Antony wasn't banned for doping at least.
Antony's top level at Ajax is better than anything Mudryk has ever showed. Antony just needs some confidence back and getting out of the cess pit of this club currently, will most likely help him to rediscover his old form.
Why do I feel Antony is going to tear it up in Spain? Seems to be his platform for some reason in my head.
I'd be very happy if he did. We might actually be able to sell him.
C*nts.
Regardless if he does well in Spain and never returns because someone wanted to buy him or not, I hope he regains his confidence and plays well. After his first 5 or 6 games he lost the confidence to do this stuff, probably partly because of long spells without scoring or creating goals and I suspect tricks were part of why he was a more dangerous player before Utd
His little spin on the spot still looks ridiculous.
That really is awful.
He’s struggled massively at United, but he’s not the first and won’t be the last. Still only young, hope he can rediscover some form and get his career back on track at his next club.
Don't particularly see what's wrong with the BBC article?
I doubt you'll find many United fans who would disagree that he's one of the worst signings in United's history given the price tag. And large swathes of the article (like the below) are sympathetic to Antony.
I doubt you'll find many United fans who would disagree that he's one of the worst signings in United's history given the price tag. And large swathes of the article (like the below) are sympathetic to Antony.
I just find it interesting that one can scroll through the BBC's front page and see a picture of Antony with the headline 'A fresh start for one of the worst signings in Man Utd history'. Kind of blunt and unnecessary, if I'm honest.
Is there any loan fee involved?
They are doing him a favour by saying its just one of our worst signings.
Because if they would have said hes one of the worst singings for any club, ever it would be hard to disagree. So much so, I still believe those involved in creating this deal should be subject to a fraud investigation.
shut up before they question if antony is that good if we didn’t ask for one.
His book value will still be over £30m by the time of the summer window so unlikely.
I don't know how creative we're allowed to be with these types of deals but the only way we might have a chance of shifting him permanently is if we're able to do a loan with an obligation which becomes active at the end of next season at £16-17m. Even then you'd probably have difficulty finding any takers.
Eh, what we can all say it but they can't?
There’s a player in there somewhere, just not in the premier league. Hopefully he gets back whatever he had and we’re able to move him on for a fee.
None of us are wasting license payers money on pointless articles. What does the article achieve other than saying he's shite, which we already know. Just kicking someone when they're down for the sake of clicks!
I think from a club perspective definitely one of the worst bits of business ever conducted. On a personal level though he's obviously had a tough road here, and all the success to him in rediscovering himself, I think there's a good player there just not for us.
I honestly see the value in an article discussing possibly the biggest flop in PL history. A cautionary tale.
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