Done.
Player | Fee | Mins | Goals | Assists | Cost per G+A |
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Nicolas Pépé | €80.00m | 6,601 | 27 | 21 | €1.67m |
Grealish | €117.5m | 9,439 | 16 | 22 | €3.09m |
Antony | €95.00m | 5,435 | 12 | 5 | €5.59m |
*stats taken from Transfermarkt.
Antony (out) | LOAN to Real Betis
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*stats taken from Transfermarkt.
He's shite but the loan is pretty much pointless. We didn't get any sort of fee from this, we're paying almost all his salary still and now he have less 1 body on the bench who "could" contribute something.
Also read somewhere couldn't remember where, when we tried to sign him back then, we already willing to pay over the price. But it was the great Edwin van der Sar the Ajax's CEO at that time who squeezed us more. Just wonderful stuff all around.
Also read somewhere couldn't remember where, when we tried to sign him back then, we already willing to pay over the price. But it was the great Edwin van der Sar the Ajax's CEO at that time who squeezed us more. Just wonderful stuff all around.
Even if he does well in Spain I don't think anyone would take on his wages so I'm not sure how we can even get rid of him
1. Debut goal vs Arsenal
2. Winning goal vs Barcelona
3. Goal vs Liverpool to make it 2-2 in the Fa Cup (definitely saved us there)
4. Assist for Garnacho at Chelsea last season
I'd say that's his 4 high moments for 2,5 years. Other than that couple of goals in Europa and domestic cups and that's about it. Even if we paid 1/3 of what we actually did, it would still be a failed transfer. Really bad.
Indeed, but I was talking about the club. Early in that window I think the club valued him at around £40m. To eventually go back in for more than tice that because Ten Hag insisted on signing him was madness.
I thought Pepe was more of a flop than that. But looking it up he got 16 goals in his second season, hardly as bad as Antony. 72m is a lot, but if we’re adding him then you’d have to add Hojlund as well.
Lukaku to Chelsea? £100mil for 8 PL goals, threw his toys out the pram after 4 months and talked up a return to his former club, forced an exit, and was sold at a massive loss.
Wait, what if you take G/A per minute per Pound?
Grealish has 0.004 goal involvement per minute. Antony has 0.003. City spunked out €22,5m for 0.001 goal involvements per minute!!!
Also bad, but like Sanchez and Mount, you could see what you were trying to get at the time. With Antony I find it utterly bizarre that anyone would pay the transfer fee and then to take the wages from 20k ish to 150-200kish. If not the worst transfer then has to be worst something. It's just insane.
Nah, regardless of money that honour will always go to George Weah's cousin.
Everyone else can fight it out for second place.
Only a million quid but Marco Boogers got to be in the conversation all things considered
The plan is surely that he plays into some kind of form with the spotlight off him and can then be sold in the summer (or stay if he really gets his sh1t together)
Yeah, Pepe came into my head before too but he actually did okay.
Keeping him would be pointless, he doesn’t play and he’s rubbish. The loan provides an opportunity for him to do well and then maybe he goes out on loan on better terms next season and then potentially he could be sold before final year of his contract.
If he was kept it just makes him harder to loan out, obviously the loan might not work out but it’s an attempt to deal with a problem rather than just ignore it and hope for the best.
Depends on how you class it. In terms of the worst transfer from the clubs point of view, then yes Antony has to be the worst. It was incredibly obvious before we even signed him he wasn't worth anywhere close to what we paid, so it showcased a huge level of incompetence from the club. More so than any of the other transfers that get bought up (Mount the only other one close).
If we're basing it on what the players achieved once they got here, then Antony definitely isn't the worst. His first season was decent enough (if we ignore the the transfer fee), so while he fell away badly after that his first season still puts him well above the likes of Sancho and Sanchez for me.
I believe Betis will be paying about 60% of his wage, and the hope is that he will actually do well for them so we then have some willing buyers in the summer.
Based on his reported transfer fee (£82m) and reported wages (£200k p/w), in order for United to not make a loss on him in next years accounts they would need to sell him for £22.4m in the summer, and that's if they aren't subsiding any of his wages to get him to leave.
Just further evidence - not that it was needed over - what a disastrous signing he's been and how overpaying market value for players can really feck you financially for years to come. They'd be lucky to get that amount for him currently and even then it wouldn't increase their ability to buy players whatosever.
Just further evidence - not that it was needed over - what a disastrous signing he's been and how overpaying market value for players can really feck you financially for years to come. They'd be lucky to get that amount for him currently and even then it wouldn't increase their ability to buy players whatosever.
let's hope Chelsea will experience the same with their transfers of Mudryk, Felix, etc.
I don't think those numbers are right. Using the assumption that we'd get his wages fully off the books (unrealistic, but just to keep the same assumptions you're using), we're looking at two scenarios:
2025-26 expenses if we KEEP Antony:
Amortization: £16.4M
Wages: £10.4M
Total: £26.8M
2025-26 expenses if we SELL Antony:
Asset write-down: £32.8M (remaining book value)
Transfer fee: X
Total: £32.8M - X
Break-even point would be X = £6M
Throw him a bone at LWB tonight. One last throw of the dice for him before his loan.
Yes you're right my bad - completely mixed off the existing amortization payment in the alternative scenario of keeping him.
Then he picks up an injury and wont go out on loan...
The dream is over.
I guess to let us recall him? Weird wording for sure
Good. Now let’s get Dorgu!
It's to prevent us accidentally buying him again before the end of the window. Some might say it's overkill, others that it's a sensible precaution given how crap we are usually at this sort of thing.
Probably meant to say no buy option for them
We're so bad at transfers, we have to buy back our own player!
Reminds me of when people on here were saying we should sell Amrabat
Positive news.
Hope he smashes it
Same and then hopefully Betis pay us his book value at least to take him permanently
Probably why we can bring one in
Arguably our worst signing ever. Hopefully, Betis don't think he's also their worst signing ever, and instead give us some money for him in the summer.
84% wages covered.
Yeah, between him and Maguire we have freed up nearly £10 million in PSR space.
Edit: £8 million. Laurie saying that he only earns £100k a week.
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