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Antony | On loan to Real Betis
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The trouble with him was when he played for us, it was the corner flag he picked out!
He got his goal today and was a decent outlet on the right but he had his usual brain farts in the final third. He's not a clever player.
But I'll be happy for him if he does well and hopefully we can get a decent enough fee for him in the summer
But I'll be happy for him if he does well and hopefully we can get a decent enough fee for him in the summer
They had 0-2, scored first goal, they lost 3-2, he was subbed at 2-2 and is man of the match! 
While it’s true. I’m happy for McTominay and to be fair there hasn’t been that much media about him. Romano tweeting about Antony is funny as he doesn’t do it about other teams however I’m also pleased for him to do well.
But the point is valid, almost all pundits and media like to take a digg at United. Who even they root for.
Which also hides a bit the fact that out business in the last 5 or 6 years has been atrocious (fees, culture, quality of players, coaches, and the rest).
Oh yeah the media is a cancer when it comes to United. Obsessed with click bait headlines. It shouldn’t be used to not say players are doing well though either on loan or when left.
Thrilled he is doing well there. Hopefully Betis come with a good bid in the summer.
Absolutely or maybe a bigger club like Villarreal or AM.
No bid, unfortunately. He is not good enough. They have no cash. They try to force deals for long time and for the minimum possible. They might try to work on a loan, with some 10 or 15 million to pay in the end. Nothing north of this, for sure.
I think Romano is paid by agents for PR. Which makes sense when you think about it.
La Liga is a decent league. I do think the bottom teams are very weak but the standard is generally very high. I’m not I buy into that league being so different to the PL.
However I guess my point isn’t really specific to Antony, it’s that we’ve got a very interesting situation now with Antony, Rashford, Sancho. It will raise questions internally if all have done well come seasons end, particularly the two playing in the same league as us.
Well I'm pretty confident that Marcus and Sancho won't have pulled up any trees by June but even if they do, I'm not sure what questions are to be answered. All got lots of playing time, in their preferred position and others, lots of backing when things weren't going well, lots of patience in the face of dogshit output.....if we've been remiss, I personally can't see where.
I agree they will unlikely do that but, Rashford in particular, if he has a storming end to the season and we’ve got attackers struggling to get to 5 goals or so, I think we have to ask ourselves what went wrong here to create the situation (especially as with Rashford he used to be a hard worker and then gradually I guess gave up).
The pace is lower than the PL and there isn’t the same pressure as at a club like United.
You got a lot of credit for this post, but just check the Leicester post match discussion and the Dorgu thread and you’ll see fans (and media for that matter), tend to get a little overexcited about new signings at clubs.
You’d think reading those threads Dorgu was brilliant, but those same ratings sites have him down as one of the worst players on the pitch.
He’s been on that slippy slope for several years. It’s not a new thing with him.
My personal opinion is that we overpay young players too soon. Maybe in fear they walk elsewhere like Germany to get minutes and put themselves in s good shop window.
Egos get out of control and many have poor agent representation to tell them to calm down.
Throw social media on the fire, creating your own marketing brands, outside influences. The days if being a Gary Neville type and sacrificing lots for a football career are gone.
In Rashfords specific case I also think that he mentally changed after his back injury. He was never the same player despite that 1 good season perhaps playing on adrenaline
How's he doing? Has he increased his spins per 90?
Wouldn’t imagine Betis have lots of funds to spend on him.
Should be looked into signing various players to SEG then the club pursued deals with. Also rumours that a decent percentage of Anthony's transfer was given to the agency. I think fans are naive to assume there's not behind closed doors deals and some corruption with many clubs.
100% agree re overpaying - that is the real legacy of the Woodward years, trying to fight back to the top by overpaying. Immediately you start to attract the wrong characters i.e. Pogba, who wanted Real but they would not pay what we would, Cavani who literally held out for Atleti until the last minute, Sanchez...and then for younger guys it just ruins any drive they had.
My only unknown with Rashford is re the shoulder injury, I think there might be an issue with whoever runs our performance side/rehab as he bulked up post shoulder and that's what killed his acceleration in my opinion. That's not to say he's covered himself in glory or his time is not done here, but I have a suspicion he might look a lot slimmer towards the end of the season with Villa and have a late flurry of form.
Nice finish for his goal yesterday. He's not worth 80m, but nowhere near as bad as he looked at Utd at times.
Utd should have keep ETH till the summer, tried to get value from the signings green lighted under him. Including Anthony.
Utd should have keep ETH till the summer, tried to get value from the signings green lighted under him. Including Anthony.
If ETH couldn’t get any value out of him in two years, what’s another six months of his management going to achieve?
He started off fairly promising for us, until defenders figured out all they need to do is stop his left foot.
The almost braindead mass running for 90+ minutes in the premier league should be taken into consideration more when signing players.
Antony should never really be in the discussion for worst player etc.
But between United and the Premier League they really did make him look awful.
Antony should never really be in the discussion for worst player etc.
But between United and the Premier League they really did make him look awful.
Left the club and turned into giggs so typical
Think his performance says more about the state of La Liga. Outside the top teams, most of them are closer to Dutch league standard.
Yeag I guess so but maybe someone else in Spain will like him and try to sign him. If not, maybe we can re-up with Betis in the summer for a full season loan on better terms (loan fee, 100% salary coverage).
La Liga clubs don't usually spend much money nowadays. If he performs really well, Atletico or Villarreal might come for him, but I doubt it. In my opinion, Italy and France are much more likely destinations
I think we're making this way too complex: he wasn't a superstar in the making, was never worth anything approaching the fee we paid, and was never going to make it in the PL given his obvious limitations...but he has decent to good technical ability and seems to put in the effort in, so he might do pretty well in La Liga or back in the Eredivisie. We need to make peace with that, recognise his career with us is over and hope we can broker a reasonable deal in the summer.