Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.

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The lad haven't even signed the contract and yet this thread is already filled with people ready to call him a flop. Lots of people here needs to give their head a wobble, go out and touch some grass, and maybe take a nap or two.
 
Interested to see him in the PL

Staggering amount of money spent this summer (and in the last 10 years) - surprising really given such strong protests against the owners. If you’re still shy of a title challenge now then who walks?… I still think you’ll do well to finish in the top 4 personally.
They've shown themselves more than willing to allow the club to splash the cash, they just put absolute clowns in charge of doing said splashing.

There's also the dividends and interest payments. While they certainly don't seem to be crippling our ability to sign players, imagine how scary we'd be with competent people in charge and even more money to spend?
 
Whereas at least half the posters on here are in the same boat but think he's going to be brilliant because of YouTube!

Both ideas are probably weird

I think it's a lot more fair to say we have no fecking idea if he will actually be successful or not.

Conversely I think it makes more sense to be excited to see this type of player sign for us than be miserable about it.
 
I don’t care what he cost. ETH wanted him since June it’s on the board for not getting the deal done sooner.

Proper exciting signing.
 
It's just the way it is. Market is back to before Covid and English clubs have money because of the TV rights...etc. We know that theres English clubs tax and United tax and all that so stop complaining about fees, just enjoy the player.
 
When was the last time we signed a forward that turned out to be an unmitigated success? Ronaldo? Yeah, it's been a while. We're long overdue a win that department, so I'm calling it: Antony is going to be a superstar :drool:
 
The lad haven't even signed the contract and yet this thread is already filled with people ready to call him a flop. Lots of people here needs to give their head a wobble, go out and touch some grass, and maybe take a nap or two.

I see more people calling him a potential world beater, than people thinking he'll flop. Both will probably be wrong in a few years time. My prediction after having watched him for 2 years at Ajax: He'll do okay/fine for United, never justifying his ridiculous price, but also not flopping. Bear in mind, the guy doesn't have many standout features. One is his ability to take on an opponent, that is for sure. And that will be useful when attacking a low block. But his shot (weak too often), crossing (also, too weak, most of the time just chipping balls into the box) and physicality are sub-par for a Top6 premier league winger. acceleration (good) and top speed (decent to good) should also be mentioned.
 
The lad haven't even signed the contract and yet this thread is already filled with people ready to call him a flop. Lots of people here needs to give their head a wobble, go out and touch some grass, and maybe take a nap or two.

There were people in the match day thread hoping Casemiro's first appearance would end in conceding a penalty and they are not opposition fans either. Some people enjoy the pain and punishment in life.
 
Interested to see him in the PL

Staggering amount of money spent this summer (and in the last 10 years) - surprising really given such strong protests against the owners. If you’re still shy of a title challenge now then who walks?… I still think you’ll do well to finish in the top 4 personally.
It’s not surprising is it? Unless you’ve not actually listened to the reasons behind the protests, and are just on a wind up.
 
Maybe the fee, but I remember the initial thread with everyone suggesting he'd 100% score 20+ league goals etc.

G Nev was the funniest. Watched him score a tap in on Sky and was full of what a brilliant move it was.
For a week or 2 then suddenly went quiet.
Yeah maybe you’re right.

It’s a good example of flawed logic:
  • Chelsea play good football but don’t score enough against fodder.
  • Lukaku isn’t a great striker but has an excellent sciting record against fodder
Therefore:
  • Chelsea + Lukaku is the perfect match
If only life were that straightforward …
 
True, maybe CR7 in there or Rashford in side and Diallo/Garnacho/Pellestri wide.

Martial looked good pre season - ETH got him running. Hes a good finisher. Its whether he can do that consistently and keep his motivation/fitness which has always been an issue
Yeah I’m not too pleased that after such a promising pre-season where he was the best player, he has since been out for 3.5 of our 4 games this season. However, a fit and most crucially confident Martial is one of the best, most technically sound players in the league. The type who can elevate his teammates. I just can’t see a Sancho-Martial-Antony front 3 not gelling so long as Martial keeps himself fit.
 
I don’t care how much we’ve paid as it’s just less money for the Glazers to take out in dividends, and neither should Antony as he didn’t decide the transfer fee. What I know is that he is fast and an excellent dribbler with exciting skills who will offer a threat down the right wing and even coming inside, something we’ve lacked for a while from that side.
 
Whereas at least half the posters on here are in the same boat but think he's going to be brilliant because of YouTube!

Both ideas are probably weird

Whats weird is being 'worried' 'nervous' and feeling sick in your mouth about a signing, get a grip ffs

Even worse, you're shitting yourself over somebody you admit you've never even seen play before
 
So how long until where gonna start hearing the Sancho-esques excuses like "he needs to play with someone better than Dalot", "people are not making runs for him to pick passes", "he's a system player" etc.
Hopefully not that one considering who's the manager
 
I think it's a lot more fair to say we have no fecking idea if he will actually be successful or not.

Conversely I think it makes more sense to be excited to see this type of player sign for us than be miserable about it.
This.

Given our dismal record over recent years, a healthy dose of scepticism is wholly justifiable. That’s not the same as seemingly wanting signings to fail in order to be proved right on the internet.
 
I think it's a lot more fair to say we have no fecking idea if he will actually be successful or not.

Conversely I think it makes more sense to be excited to see this type of player sign for us than be miserable about it.

Fair. I guess it's the perennial poor transfers we've made in the past decade that just eats at me and expects the wordt
 
Whats weird is being 'worried' 'nervous' and feeling sick in your mouth about a signing, get a grip ffs

Even worse, you're shitting yourself over somebody you admit you've never even seen play before

Yeah, you're right. I should definitely feel happy, confident and excited about a €100m signing who I've never seen play instead.

Especially when he's been signed by a club with such an amazing track record of getting players st the right price
 
I see more people calling him a potential world beater, than people thinking he'll flop. Both will probably be wrong in a few years time. My prediction after having watched him for 2 years at Ajax: He'll do okay/fine for United, never justifying his ridiculous price, but also not flopping. Bear in mind, the guy doesn't have many standout features. One is his ability to take on an opponent, that is for sure. And that will be useful when attacking a low block. But his shot (weak too often), crossing (also, too weak, most of the time just chipping balls into the box) and physicality are sub-par for a Top6 premier league winger. acceleration (good) and top speed (decent to good) should also be mentioned.
Of course there will be more people being positive about his chances than not, this is a Man Utd forum after all. Yet the negativity is quite over the top for a Man Utd forum. If you look at Casemiro's thread you will see lots of people waiting for him to flop too. A genuine world class player with a stellar career and elite mentality.

If you think he is barely a PL standard winger for a top 6 team that's fine, you are entitled to your own opinion. For me, I prefer to believe in Ten Hag than what random people on the internet says and who is to say that a 22 year old will be forever stuck at this level of play.
 


Licha, Malacia, Casemiro, and now–THIS. Makes you really realize what we have been missing.


There will be no shortage of posters making dumb comments like poor man’s Nani, bad decision making and losing the ball too much. Not realising that flair comes with certain risks.
 
The flair on this boy will be terrific and probably hugely frustrating to watch. Haven't had that for quite some time. Last time I felt that our 37 year old striker was 18 years old :lol:

Here's hoping for a similar development path
 
I was hoping for that transfer from the beginning and maybe because of that I did not want to look elsewhere, so when it is finally done and I am still seeing lots of comments that we overpaid, that we should buy other players i decided to give it a go and find other alternatives who supposed to be better signings than Antony so I went to fifa data base put left footed right winger, right forwards, right midfielders and this is what come up:

Messi 35, Salah 30, Di Maria 34, Mahrez 31, Sane 26, Mahrez 31, Ziyech 29, Sane 26, Asensio 26, Vela 33, Dembele 25, Berardi 28, Bale 33, Raphinha 25, Suso 28, Bailey 25, Berghuis 30, James 31, Januzaj 27, Politano 29, Pepe 27, Kulusevski 22, Thauvin 29, Saka 20, Sarabia 30, Tsygankov 24, Neres 25, Antony 22, Shaqiri 30, Ghezzal 30, Ikone 24, Mena 34, Lamela 30, Bowen 25, Castillejo 27, Under 25, Gil Pareja 29, Piatti 33, Townsend 31, Traore 26, Araujo 26, Stengs 23, Chukwueze 23, Madueke 20, Yarmolenko 32, Brooks 25, Lukebakio 24, Trincao 22, Tete 22

Then i put left side players who are left footed Oyarzabal 25, Kostic 29, Lemar 26, Diaby 23, Neto 22, Bongonda 26, Bryan Gil 21,

Seriously from all that players when we forget about Mahrez, Salah, Messi, Saka, Kulusevski etc there are only a few that we could consider like Raphinha, Antony, Bowen, Sane, Diaby, Neto, and that is it.

Raphinha only wanted Barca and Leeds would probably asked even more for him, so it could be difficult. If WHU want 150 for Rice, Bowen would be more then 100 I guess and i do not think he is as good as Antony. Sane use to be great for City but right now I am not sure if he gonna ones again be at that highest level. Diaby is playing really well, but again Bayer would probably ask for minimum 80 mil for him. Neto is playing well but I am not so sure if he has the potential to be one of the best, and once again if Wolves sold Gibbs White for 45 they would want 70-80 + for Neto.

All the others are either Too old, Not good enough, Way past it, still raw or Di Maria.

About Antony's stats when you watch one of the videos few pages back you can see how many chances he created only for his teammates to miss it.

That progressive passes and progressive carries is fantastic example what we paid for. He is 2nd in passing only behing Trent and 4th in carries behind Vinicius, Dembele and Mbappe. So we get 2 fantastic attributes that we were missing past few seasons to help us against teams parking the bus in one player. He is unique and i have not seen that kind of player for a long time.

If you make a list of all the attributes for great winger they would be Pace, Shooting, Crossing, Passing, Vision, Awareness, Dribbling, Technique, and even if you get all that most of the players would not be team players and they probably be very selfish.
I think that Antony would be in top 3-5 of every of that attributes as well as being team player.

As a bonus you could ask for hard work, stamina, tracking back and to be aggressive. He also is great at those. So if you put all that attributes there is no other player that can compete with him.
 
This thread is really useful for picking people to put on ignore. Five and counting. These are seasoned, unreconstructed, dedicated moaners. I am sure they all have their different reasons. Pessimism, depression, looking for attention, cluelessness, etc. But cleaning your inbox of them, and then giving the place a once over for any lingering odours, will lighten your experience of the Caf, and turn it to a blissful and joyous place. The alternative is to have a background chorus who moan and moan and moan. They will stink up player threads, match-day threads, any happy moment that comes along with their negativity and pessimism.
Look. I know all is far from perfect at the club. I want the owners out. I want the stadium fixed up. I want a striker. But ... enjoy the sweet moments. The people who moan (under cover of informed opinion) after you beat Liverpool, or the day before a new signing puts pen to paper, add nothing to the overall atmosphere. Support our players. Support the manager. Welcome, Antony. I hope you set the world on fire.
 
I heard that Murtough offered 20% of any profit on a future transfer but Van der Sar said 'nah, just validate my parking instead'
 
Maybe not but again, forgive me for questioning the theory of paying €100m for this lad.

The price is ludicrous

No it's not, in current market, Everton is asking for same amount for Gordon from Chelsea ffs, Nunez went for same, a lot of you act like we are the only ones overpaying players here, whole market is fecked up, just enjoy the signing and stop with all the moaning about the money that isn't yours.
 
This thread is really useful for picking people to put on ignore. Five and counting. These are seasoned, unreconstructed, dedicated moaners. I am sure they all have their different reasons. Pessimism, depression, looking for attention, cluelessness, etc. But cleaning your inbox of them, and then giving the place a once over for any lingering odours, will lighten your experience of the Caf, and turn it to a blissful and joyous place. The alternative is to have a background chorus who moan and moan and moan. They will stink up player threads, match-day threads, any happy moment that comes along with their negativity and pessimism.
Look. I know all is far from perfect at the club. I want the owners out. I want the stadium fixed up. I want a striker. But ... enjoy the sweet moments. The people who moan (under cover of informed opinion) after you beat Liverpool, or the day before a new signing puts pen to paper, add nothing to the overall atmosphere. Support our players. Support the manager. Welcome, Antony. I hope you set the world on fire.

Hear! Hear!

Football is about hope, fantasy and a sense of escapism. Its not like any of us actually contribute directly to the team's performance. What is life if its not all about new beginnings and hope?

So its a better route to take an optimistic one than that of constantly moaning and projecting your own angst onto the team or fellow fans. Its a helluva healthier both physically and mentally too.
 
The lad haven't even signed the contract and yet this thread is already filled with people ready to call him a flop. Lots of people here needs to give their head a wobble, go out and touch some grass, and maybe take a nap or two.
Who called him a flop already?
 
Can imagine the likes of Paul Merson will be about in no time pour their typical scornful anti-United drivel all over this.

Here's to hoping Antony makes them all look like idiots.
 
This thread is really useful for picking people to put on ignore. Five and counting. These are seasoned, unreconstructed, dedicated moaners. I am sure they all have their different reasons. Pessimism, depression, looking for attention, cluelessness, etc. But cleaning your inbox of them, and then giving the place a once over for any lingering odours, will lighten your experience of the Caf, and turn it to a blissful and joyous place. The alternative is to have a background chorus who moan and moan and moan. They will stink up player threads, match-day threads, any happy moment that comes along with their negativity and pessimism.
Look. I know all is far from perfect at the club. I want the owners out. I want the stadium fixed up. I want a striker. But ... enjoy the sweet moments. The people who moan (under cover of informed opinion) after you beat Liverpool, or the day before a new signing puts pen to paper, add nothing to the overall atmosphere. Support our players. Support the manager. Welcome, Antony. I hope you set the world on fire.

Could not have said it better myself. There is no downside to this transfer. Period. We need new blood and Antony might be exactly the type of player to jumpstart our offense. There’s zero to moan about. I truly do not understand how there are people mad enough about this signing to actually complain.
 
Maybe not but again, forgive me for questioning the theory of paying €100m for this lad.

The price is ludicrous

Prices have been ludicrous for ages. The time to discuss prices is something for the past - £30m was seen as an extortionate fee in the early 2000s; now, it is seen as quite reasonable. It has gone beyond the point of discussion as it isn't going to change.

40m, 50m, 60m, 70m, 80m, 90m - Are these price really any more ridiculous than each other? They are all insane amounts of money to bring just one player to the club.

The only thing people should be bothered about is whether he is any good on the pitch. I don't care how much Maguire, Antony, Casemiro, or any player cost; it is irrelevant as it is not the fans' job to handle the club's finances and expenditure. They have no control so there is no point in worrying about it.
 
Just a reminder Grealish cost £100m - let’s see which player has more goals and assists at the end of the season
 
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