Surely Ajax have rejected the bid because they don't have a replacement and not because the amount bid (which is not far off a whole years annual turnover for Ajax) is too low?
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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The thing is, there are no villains. These deals happe if all three parties want it. If one doesn't, it doesn't make them villains. This insane need for sensationalism just skews everyone. The truth might be boring, and that's why for most of the history of the sport transfers became news after they happened.
If we set the price at £140m and they bid that but we reject it. I don’t think we would be in agreement of the clubs policy.
We laughed at the fax machine but we all knew it was a club catastrophe.
So no I don’t agree. But it is what it is.
Don’t think there’s much more we could have done really. If this is incompentence, feck working for you guys…..
It’s an effin transfer window. It means anytime within that window players can move. Stop dictating rules that don’t make sense. Maybe next year Europe just close the transfer window in mid June.
Bid earlier. It was reported he is a priority target for Erik ten Hag before the summer. Why then are we bidding for him 7 days before the closing of the window? A matter of incompetence.
They paid around 13m (+5m adds on), just 2 years ago. Its very very low risk signing as compared to the income they generated from players sales.
They sold De Jong (age 22) for 77m, De Ligt (age 20) for 76m, Ziyech for 36m, VDB for 35m at around same time or prior.
Really, he owe them nothing, when we are willing to pay that amount of money for him.
They should just let him go, when there is big money coming for him, and when he really wants to go.
They always let their top young players leave when there is good price/good opportunity for them, there's reason why they could always attract top young talents for peanuts, because top young talents always have an understanding that they would always let them pursue their career in bigger club elsewhere for good money, and won't hold them back.
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Love how players are always painted as the hostages of the evil clubs not selling them. It's up to Ajax to decide what offer is acceptable and what is not. This sentence "They shouldn't hold against players wish" is just so wrong. Nobody held him at gunpoint to sign a 5 year contract without a buy out clause.
He daftly pursued a player who doesn't want to join for the whole fecking window.
Making an agreement with the club means the square root of feck all.
"dont think there's much more" my arse. He should have walked months ago.
100% agree. It's amazing the reaction is when the shoe is on the other foot.
Yes you’re spot on but others just want to moan and blame the club.
- Antony claims when he signed he agreed to a two year project
- He told Ajax he wanted to leave in Feb so the club could prepare
- A offer was made in June, he again said he wanted to leave.
- He refused to sign a new deal
- Ajax said they wanted €70-80m for him (leaked to the press)
- United make an offer at this price which is rejected, player then goes on strike and is clearly unhappy
- Ajax leak they want more to the press, upwards to €100m
- United raise the offer to €94m and it is again rejected
- Ajax tell Antony they don’t have time to replace him
- Antony does his interview
It’s obvious to anyone Ajax have been messing around both Antony and United. Yes you can criticise United but the sequence of events indicates they told United the price earlier in the window and United have come back and met it only be to rejected, asked to pay more and rejected again.
Why do people think Antony is so upset about it? He knows the excuses being made by Ajax are nonsense.
It’s fairly obvious they are going back on their word to the player and to United to continually squeeze more and more money. If they weren’t interested in selling late in the window why not say so early on and why continue to get United to make bids at a new price.
Yeah, they need the player more than the money in the latest bid. There's always a number but we haven't hit it yet.
Yeah absolutely.
Stupid response.
Why can't I see De Jong in the squad selection for the Soton game? I want to select him for my prediction.
Yah. You must be some transfer window expert. You should really apply for Matt Judge's job then.
I totally agree. All three parties have to agree to a deal. With a transfer, there is a window to conclude a deal within. All parties will use that timeframe, to get the best deal for themselves. For some it will work, for the others it won't.
It's just I don't get the comments of United being incompetent or entitlement comments. Sure, United have a long record of incompetency but for this transfer, I'm not too sure what the incompetency is?
People stop using logic when it comes to transfers. If they were purchasing something of high value, within a time frame, using their own money, they wouldn't behave too differently to how United have.
Some tweets regarding pice tag and bids
There's no point even talking if you don't think bidding late in the window can affect whether a club sells a player
So they are complaining that Ten Hag has ensured that they get €100M instead of €60M. Seems legit. I too would be furious if someone came and offered me almost twice the value of something I had earlier been inclined to sell for half that. How ever will Ajax survive with being paid €100M for a player they paid €16M for.
It doesn't take an expert to know its a stupid move. Especially considering weve done stupid shit like this in many windows.
Antony said there were was an offer on the table from a team in June.
But there is no blame to attribute to anyone, that's the point that people defending Ajax are making.
This is so mental, you're all like hysterical old folks talking in circles about an imagined slight.
All the post deserved really. Completely adolescent and belittling take on Ajax and football in general.
You’re just choosing to believe the Ajax spin which is fine but if you think logically do you really believe that’s how negotiations work and that neither club has remained in contact since earlier in the window?
Obviously they are complaining there's no much time for a replacement. It's been reported a number of times before
Does that mean you are assuming that ETH and Murtough are dumb as a box of rocks?
To be fair hes right.
Do we know whether the price tag was met?
I think the entitlement is directed at people damning Ajax for hard ball negotiations.
When did I say that. Can you understand posts without trying to exaggerate to stupid hyperbole?
This is the post!
Not too sure how many can say that things are much more different to what you've posted here!
People will still use mental gymnastics though, to blame United!
Shall we list the number of big name players being sold late in a window?
Like I said if the window isn’t shut players can move. Don’t fall for this stupid belief of being too late to make a bid.
Real Madrid had all summer to make a bid for De Gea they bid on the last day of the window and we accepted it.
No stupid talk of they had the whole window to bid.
He said that he informed them in June that he wanted to leave. I didn't see anything that there was an offer was on the table, but happy to be corrected.
Says this time (yesterday) a concrete offer was presented and they still rejected, hence why he's pissed and revealing all.
Ok so because this happened, this must also apply to everyone. Sure mate
Playing hard ball is fine. They have the rights too.
However, from what you read, they've not been playing hard ball, they've been messing Antony, and United, around. That's the frustration.
Sounds like Ajax had a figure in mind that wasn't met, so the price has increased even more OR hes simply unsellable now.
I dont blame them.
Why would Ajax set a price and then reject a bid for that sum? To feck with their own player?
Makes zero sense.
Makes zero sense.
I think it’s clear Ajax have moved the goal posts a few times on this.
If people think that’s reasonable then fair enough. None of us know exactly what’s been said by who.
Logic would tell us in Antonys reaction he feels very hard done by though and that suggests to me they’ve had plenty of discussions with the player, agreed to let him go for the right price and now that price has been hit are going back on their word claiming it’s ‘too late to sell’ (despite negotiating a fee and deal over days with United).
They have just wasted time to run the window down.
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