Add in Garnacho- nearly half our team is South American
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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They're not tbh, there are many players of that profile all over Europe
Shame Cavani couldn't be arsed anymore
Poor lad can't be our posterboy without Photoshop. Too much acne.
Price is high. But how do you assess whether it is too high?
The comparative method.
Cost and relative qualities of available alternatives…
Spot on, some on here have got so used to moaning about everything related to United that they don't know how to do anything else anymore.
Bid accepted today. Medical tomorrow. In the stands on Saturday....
Written off by October.
Written off by October.
The United way
Kulusevski will cost Spurs around £35m and we bought Richarlison for £60m this window. Richarlison is proven in the league and can play anywhere in front three. I think you are overpaying by around 25-30 million on this kid especially because wingers from Holland usually struggle in the Premiership. Look at Ziyech, Bergwijn, etc recently. Maybe he will do great but it's a pretty big risk.
The caf way.
Antony is a winger from Brazil, though.
Just take the loss, your ages and stats were miles out, you were either wrong or knowingly altered them to prove your point.
Roonster09 has called you out on them for all to see, Antony is much further ahead in his development than diaz was at the same age, hence the higher fee. Not that it matters, Liverpool got a gem at a good price, fair play, it happens, hopefull we'l be saying the same about Malacia in a few month.
Back in 2009 £80 million got you the worlds best player. Circa 2020-22 it wouldn't even get you a 28 year old Lukaku or a prospect like Nunez from Portugal.
Be prepared to be hammered how these players aren't comparable in the slightest, but you're absolutely right. There's no metric or comparison (Gordon for £60m aside) that would justify 100m for a winger from Holland with mediocre stats
You know what I meant!Antony is a winger from Brazil, though.
Richarlison is a good comparable sale. He is proven and decent, if a little inconsistent. You have to factor in their ages and make some sort of assessment of their raw attributes. I’m not sure how that would come out but it’s possible, on that basis, that Antony would come out higher, allowing for age as well. Maybe, maybe not.
We want three comparable sales if possible.
The bottom line is that Overpaying is only really a meaningful term if you can identify and go and get someone as good in that position for less money.
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Exactly. I never answer on posts like that; "if not him, who" or "name x players better than y player" etc...
We have scouting department. Dozen of scouts who cover whole world. They are payed to find players in every category. So nobody can't tell me that there is no much cheaper right wingers similiar or better than Antony.
To be clear here; i am sucker for skill so i want Antony and few months ago i said that i want him more than any other player this summer. But it is a shame that we always must overpay players because our scouts are shit (or because we want to "back our manager").
A profile like Antonys? I dont think so
You carry the hole, like we should've done in summer 2019 (Maguire and AWB) and we did in summer 2020 (Sancho).
I get overpaying for Casemiro simply because we are so short on numbers. But that's not the case on the wing - we literally paid £70m last summer to fill that position, and we've got fairly high rated young players coming through there too.
Never mind numbers, we're short on quality in attack. Antony fulfills a need for the team
Knowing the CAF, he might be written off next week.
We are overpaying as the selling club are taking advantage of our sitution. But we have to get these players in if we want to compete for trophies again
Erm, not really much of a difference. If you want to go all the way back to Diaz time in Porto, Portugal was ranked as 6 last season while Netherlands is in 7. But it’s quite meaningless to argue here. They are always ranked at about 6th or 7th. I don’t know what you are trying to achieve here arguing that.
Just to remind you, Greenwood is very unlikely to play for us again.
Amad and Pellistri are not highly-rated at all.
Or are you referring to someone else?
Why? The player has basically handed a transfer request and by all accounts wants only United.
I guess the point us if we actually looked beyond ajax we could find similarly talented players we might not get rinsed for
He'd last longer than Sancho before being written off then, it only took one game for Sancho to be branded as useless.
It was only two weeks ago we were all in for Arnautovic, now we're signing Antony, who imo will light up OT, we should consider ourselves lucky.
I give him 2 games.Knowing the CAF, he might be written off next week.
Lisandro was called an underwhelming transfer after Brighton.
It's the Caf, sure people do it because they've nothing better to do, pretty sad really.
A lot made their mind up on him before seeing him play due to his height..
Yup. Silly beyond belief.
Very true. It's really sad.
I think Antony will do well, he's the type of player who you go to watch. Exciting and unpredictable.
I don't give a shit how much he costs to be honest.
Redcafe lately takes approximately 15 minutes before pronouncing players shit.
We are short on numbers in attacking position too. Rashford, Sancho are our only wingers. After that we are relying on Elanga who is still very young and doesn't have a single season at high level. We don't have a single left footed winger at the club.
If we have alternatives then we should go for them. As of today, we are linked with 0 right wingers apart from Antony.
Well not only that. Antony was actually priced at 80m euros by Ajax in about a month ago. As we leave it too late to panic buy now, they now raised the price to nearly 100m euros. Maybe a lot of you didn’t realise, there is definitely big stupidity/incompetence in our part which forced ourself into situation to further overpay the already inflated amount against market value as compared to other player transfer of similar calibre.
At the end of the day I don’t mind us getting a quality player like Antony of course, but we are not only risking big money here, we are also risking our reputation in future transfer dealing.
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The fee is for accountants and rival fans/press to use for ammunition. At the end of the day we are signing one of the best RW prospects in football. Something we've needed for a LONG time.
A pacey, skillful, agile winger that loves to press also? what more could you want.
So what if we've paid £20m more than market price, in the future nobody will care.
I think we've decided to push this through in this window instead of next summer just to avoid the comedians in the tabloids all using the same shitty pun in their headlines when we sign Declan Rice.
Just as it was silly to write him off after a couple of bad games, it's also pretty stupid to be assuming he will be a success after one good one
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