Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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I mean he had a number of other parts of his game that he could have used as a criticism but he went straight to one his main strengths and called it out as a weakness!
I guess so,
this one isn't though
https://youtube.com/shorts/i1domaWpnCE?feature=share
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He’s so slow. He needs to be more explosive.I guess so,
this one isn't though
https://youtube.com/shorts/i1domaWpnCE?feature=share
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I guess so,
this one isn't though
https://youtube.com/shorts/i1domaWpnCE?feature=share
I really don't know how to embed shorts
I didn't say I've only watched a 10 min video did I? I said get a 10 min vid and compare it to the other players I mentioned.
I swear this place is a circlejerk where any negative opinions on a player are shot down, we could be linked to the tea lady for £50m and people would be in here praising the transfer. I make a long post outlining concerns and you get snidey one liners.
I guess it's what you get on a football forum. Need to really stop bothering.
I bet your reply is 'oh you're wrong I'm so right' despite me pointing a simple way to test it - compare the players' videos I mentioned.
I guess so,
this one isn't though
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A long punt down the line with half the pitch free is nowhere near the same as being explosive in dribbling in tight quarters, which is the point I made. Top speed Vs acceleration.
Lots of thinking and assuming going on.
Dude you really need to watch some more clips. Antony's signature move is cutting to the left with a short burst of speed and shooting. The Robben way, all about acceleration.
In fact, you should need to watch the clip i posted again, even though it's a long sprint, his first few meters(you know the acceleration) are pretty insane
i don't think robben, antony, mahrez, pires, ljungberg, nani, young ronaldo.....none of these guys were/are explosive. They are quick, ball carriers, elusive on the dribble. Explosive dribblers were like the Brazilian Ronaldo, Figo, Ronaldinho, Messi type of guys in my opinion
in that scenario we are screwed either way b/c you are relying on young, unproven players in the premier league when we are going to be fighting for that 3rd and 4th spot with 3 other teams who have made big improvements to their squads this summer.
de Jong would certainly help transform this team because he's unique to what we currently have. sounds like Erik really likes the job Fred is doing right now but we all know that he's not a connector when push comes to shove which makes de Jong important to this squad.
Antony is unique because he's left footed, a ball carrier from the wing, excellent dribbler, creative and provides quality depth or just as easily a starter
both are important if we want to have ANY sort of chance to compete for trophies and challenge for the top 4 and CL spot
But Robben was equally dangerous going on the outside. So you couldn't just fully show him outside because he could do you there with his dribbling power. Antony doesn't have that.
Certain things are divided by debate. But a lot of your posts are just bonkers.
Yeah, look at your own post history. Frothing at the mouth in 2020 to sign Sancho for £100m because according to you the only player better than him around was Mbappe. Forgive me for taking what you say with a pinch of salt.
Why does this keep being repeated when their outgoings had been decided prior to us getting EtH? Not much we could have done there regardless of how early in the window we went for him. Would have had to be talking to them from January.
@marktan how do you think he beats opponents in tight space? That's the part that I find intriguing, you are essentially denying his main attribute.
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Antony top speed in the UCL = 35.71km
Luis Diaz top speed in the UCL = 35.5km
Below are two recent games where both players played against Benfica and I'll let you people decide who is the more 'explosive' player. To me Antony looks the more dangerous player if we're just to take the evidence of the highlights below, and just as explosive over the first few yards.
Luis Diaz top speed in the UCL = 35.5km
Below are two recent games where both players played against Benfica and I'll let you people decide who is the more 'explosive' player. To me Antony looks the more dangerous player if we're just to take the evidence of the highlights below, and just as explosive over the first few yards.
I don't care about flashy players. End product is what wins games. He doesn't look like he has it.
It's why I'm wary of players like Jonathan David. If you're gonna be paying a good amount for a player who's had multiple seasons he needs to have been dominant in his last two in a weaker league.
If he isn't then it's a massive gamble. More Haalands and less Fabio Silvas.
To be fair I’m flattered you’ve had to go back digging over 2 years ago. But ah yes it was crazy of me to want to sign the most productive winger in the world at the time. Show me where I said Mbappe was the only player in the world better than Sancho.
One just needs to go over your posts in last few days to find some bonker views.
YouTube clips that haven’t been watched before don’t count.
Wait, I thought the discussion around his speed was a meme? Are you all seriously discussing if he is fast enough?
Huh? no they hadn't. They didn't know if Timber was coming or going, we only went in for Martinez way after making Timber enquires.
Bayern wanted Ajax players and had 2 signed in the first couple of weeks in the window....we wanted Ajax players and Martinez is barely official 2 months into the window.
You fecked up. Just own it. Literally everyone is telling you you’re wrong.
The Bayern signings were decided months ago. That's why it was done so early in the window. We were not looking at the Ajax players until weeks ago.
And Mazroui was free and Gravenberch only had a year left and wasn't signing a new contract.
To be fair lads, @marktan said he watched him and then asked to refer to a 10 min video on YouTube to demonstrate said lack of explosiveness. But will disagree with him, his acceleration is quite good. There’s a sense of him needing to be a bit more polished however and I’d say he is not worth 60 million right now and if we do agree on that sum, we are paying about an additional 15 million for potential here.
The problem we have is a serious lack of depth in forwards going into a season where we have a lot of fixtures along with a world cup slap bang in the middle of it where virtually all our primary attacking players will be taking part. We are just one or two injuries away from our season falling apart. Right now, we may have to bite the bullet and pay a premium to get a forward in because that extra 15m we do end up paying would potentially be recouped many times over by the difference of getting top 4 and not getting top 4.
Luiz Diaz is an okay player playing in a very good team.
He died in the final when it counted and will this season when he’s asked to step up for Mane.
Please don't sign this little cnut.
I'm sorry, how can anyone look at the video and say he's an explosive dribbler? Most of the dribbles that run at the defender in the video are slow and he ends up losing the ball?
Look at a video of Dembele dribbling, Neymar, Mane, that's what I mean by explosiveness.
The best thing about that video is his passing and his work rate. I mean it's not a super controversial opinion - take Coutinho for example, a good close control dribbler, good pass and shot. But the one thing he really lacks compared to Neymar is the dribbling speed and that showed at Barca. Give both the ball at a standing start and Neymar can breeze past people if he wants. It's one of the things that separates the very good and the elite.
I violently dislike Antony, like, really feck him, but he's lightning fast and also explosive.
He's a cheating cnut, inconsistent and lacks end product, but quickness and explosiveness he has.
Did I mention he's a cnut though?
Exactly what we need in the team.
I get the feeling something happened in a match against Feyenoord
You dislike cnuts?
He is a massive cnut but (for now) he’s our cnut.
This makes little sense. You're telling me we publicly announced Ten Hag back in April (it means we had been talking to him many months before that) and he never intimated us the players he wanna take with him? And somehow, Ten Hag woke up one day a few weeks ago and suddenly realized he needs Antony? That sounds ridiculous. No, when you're looking at a manager, you must also look at the players he presently manages. And the first question you should ask said manager is, okay which players you wanna bring with you. This transfer should have been planned out many months ago, not now.
I get the feeling something happened in a match against Feyenoord
Proper shithousery
Love the extrapolation from being a kunt, which is a reasonable objection but often overlooked as an under appreciated virtue, to being an unexplosive plodder.
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