What was with his hostile reaction to a bit of criticism from Bruno? Called him puta several times.
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Very disappointed so far.
I was more impressed with Pellistri’s 15 minute cameo than 6 months of Antony.
I was more impressed with Pellistri’s 15 minute cameo than 6 months of Antony.
He'll be back in time for the Utd game unfortunately.
Nani, Martial you could see the ingredients that could have turned them into world class players, unfortunately they never put that together. Outside his left footed curling shot what other attacking attributes does Antony possess?
I think when Nani first got here he actually had very similar issues. He was unable to regularly take on a Premier League fullback 1 on 1. He had flashes and scored some great goals.
Hasn't even racked up one assist, crikey.
Good touch. Excellent close control. Good at wriggling out of tight spaces. You can definitely see he has a lot of the attributes you’d want from a player in his position. His decision making is also good (although too cautious so far)
He snarls quite well.
No he didn't
Nani both burned fullbacks for pace and dribbled past them. Issue was he never knew when to pass or shoot. He also ran into cul de sacs.
He did, about 18 months after he signed for us. When he first signed he just had short flashes of skill and great long distance goals, exactly like Antony.
Edit: I am not saying this means Antony will regularly start dribbling past players if we stick with him for a year. It surprised me when Nani kicked on that way after he destroyed Arsenal. Still very early with Antony though and I can see flashes that he might end up doing well.
Was he a French full back?
He was brought to make a difference, it was a very expensive player, so it is normal to expect much more from him. To me he looks as one dimensional as Dan James.
Martinelli doesn't have a Youtube compilation of him controlling the ball with his back. He also didn't do it in his announcement video when he signed for Arsenal for 100M (or was it 6M, can't remember). No respect is involved in a NLD derby. Especially when you're winning 2-0 at their place
If you expect him to live up to his price tag, you'll be waiting for a very long time. The same goes for the people who believe that one day Sancho will justify his alleged (350 grand p/w) wages. People on here like to talk about pace, physicality, taking your man on and all that pretty stuff, but for the Dutch, football is, first and foremost, a game of spaces. ETH came here and saw that we were basically playing with three forwards up front + Bruno. Everything was too narrow and congested in the final third. He probably asked for an inverted winger who can hug the touchline and stretch the pitch in the final third. It wouldn't surprise me, if the club believed that the frontline was covered after signing Sancho. Since the matter was urgent, ETH went after the player he had previously coached. And Ajax took us to the cleaners.
Just like when we had Martial, Rashford and Greenwood and Solskjaer wanted a player who wouldn't raise his head only to aim his shot, but also help us improve our link-up play in the final third and open up spaces for the others. Failing, of course, to see that Sancho isn't the player who draws defenders out of position to create pockets of space, but one that benefits massively from the right movement off the ball around and in front of him. Dortmund, of course, didn't care much about that and they took us to the cleaners too since we had eyes only for Sancho back then.
It doesn't mean they are bad players. They are system players, which means that their numbers will start going up the closer we get to being the finished article. The problem with Antony (and Sancho) isn't his productivity so early in the team's development. The big issue is that he (alongside the missing Sancho and Martial) were supposed to be our "possession safe" players in the final third. The ones to whose feet the ball would stick, thus allowing us to circulate the ball with purpose between the lines, carve out openings and pin down opponents. We can't always rely on the chaos Bruno and Rashford like to operate into. We can't go on playing end-to-end high octane football twice a week. The lack of squad depth and the 5 changes rule will murder us. We need good possession in areas that matter. That was the main problem yesterday. We brought players on to protect the lead, we conceded space to be more compact, but we had zero control of the rhythm. That's the aspect of the game Antony has completely failed to have an impact on.
Antony didn’t cost 100 million pounds to bring to United.Martinelli doesn't have a Youtube compilation of him controlling the ball with his back. He also didn't do it in his announcement video when he signed for Arsenal for 100M (or was it 6M, can't remember). No respect is involved in a NLD derby. Especially when you're winning 2-0 at their place
https://www.skysports.com/amp/footb...nited-agree-85m-deal-to-sign-antony-from-ajax
He works hard and is aggressive, but offers very little. Hard to see how the price tag was ever justified.
And yes his one-footedness is a huge problem, defenders just force him on to his right foot and he can’t do anything except do a 180 and pass it backwards. It happens constantly to the point where it’s making us impotent down the right.
And yes his one-footedness is a huge problem, defenders just force him on to his right foot and he can’t do anything except do a 180 and pass it backwards. It happens constantly to the point where it’s making us impotent down the right.
It's not crazy at all. Sancho at Dortmund showed what he's capable of and why United were after him. Antony on the other hand at Ajax never showed he was good enough for United, his highlight reels (not that I'm judging him solely by this) aren't even that impressive ffs. Hence, why the transfer has always been baffling to me, and that's before even counting the ridiculous price. But Ten Haag is a manager and I'm just a random on the internet, so fingers crossed.
I think he runs faster with the ball sideways than forward. The way he moves with the ball is confusing for both opposition and his teammates it seems. I think he does well to get away from tight situations at times, but I don't think Sancho will have problems taking his spot in first XI.
His touch and close control is a lot better than James', but you've certainly got a point.
What they both have in common is very high workrate off the ball that makes the whole side look more solid. It's an aspect of their game that went completely unacknowledged with James, even after it became obvious after he was sold.
Is that enough for a Manchester United attacker? Obviously not, but it's only fair to recognise it.
I wonder what he's like on the left.
I was not comparing him with Dan James in terms of similar ability, I was referring to the fact that they both are a one trick pony.
- Dan James had pace in a straight line and that was about it.
- Antony has only the cut inside dribbling followed by a very good curling far post shot and that's about it.
It's like we have paid a Ferrari price for Antony but we only received the exhaust.
Well that's the thing. What used to work for him? I follow the Eredivisie quite closely hence my Mom's Dutch and I need to talk about something on Christmas dinners with that side of the family. I was already flabbergasted that we went after him. His showboating levels were admirable yet slightly pathetic when you play Go Ahead Eagles, but worse is: his stats were just not that special the last two seasons. His G/A ratio per 90 minutes was worse than Sinisterra and Gakpo, whom I have strong doubts if they'll make in the PL.
Waste of money, I'm telling you.
Nani was a world class player for us for nearly two seasons, though. I don't get how people forget this. He was outrageous between 2010-2012.
What works for him is stretching the field, getting on the ball out-wide and then cutting inside to shoot, hit a cross towards the far post, play a one-two with a teammate and attack the box or, finally, draw a defender and pass the ball to the overlapping fullback. He can do these things and he can do them well. Consistency is an issue, but he's still fairly young. What he can't do is get on the ball, beat 2/3 players and serve a goal on the plate for the others. Neither can Sancho for that matter. I understand that, because of his price tag, that's what people expect of him to do. And since we don't score many goals, there's even more pressure added on his (and others') shoulders. If the bar is raised to the levels of peak Hazard or Bale, then yeah, he's a waste of money.
Yeah it's bizarre how anyone who supposedly watched us during Nani's time here can say he never put it together. Far more talent than Antony and made very good use of it for a good while.
I don't get the Nani comparisons at all. Nani was very skilled and athletic player, he could do it all. The perfect fifa player - especially if someone was controlling his brain. He was not very good in tight situations where you need to play some one twos, pass and move etc.
Antony seems to understand football but he has clear limitations and I don't know how he moves from here to be honest. Looks to me like he's been found out and it will get even more difficult imo.
Antony seems to understand football but he has clear limitations and I don't know how he moves from here to be honest. Looks to me like he's been found out and it will get even more difficult imo.
I think the tendency to play Bruno on the RW shows that EtH can see Antony is struggling at the moment.
I think it would help to give him the Garnacho treatment and use him as a sub for a while.
One of the big reason I hate paying massive transfer fees…The pressure is just over the top and everyone expects prime Bale performances every week.
I think it would help to give him the Garnacho treatment and use him as a sub for a while.
One of the big reason I hate paying massive transfer fees…The pressure is just over the top and everyone expects prime Bale performances every week.
If Antony gets to Nani's level shown between 2010-2012, I'd be absolutely stunned.
They're nowhere near alike.
They're nowhere near alike.
I'd like to see him play a full game on the left just to see if he's capable of taking his man on then through a burst of speed.
He is important out of possession though. Much like Lingard was for Mourinho for a period.
He is important out of possession though. Much like Lingard was for Mourinho for a period.
Terrible take.
All this talk about Nani has me missing him. He was a baller. Time to watch some videos of the guy. If anyone knows Antony, tell him to do the same as well.
Yup, he was brilliant for a couple of seasons and good for another few. Consistency was an issue in the seasons where he wasn't brilliant, but even then he'd impact most games.
His expected assists. Remember, he is a RW:
Yeah, but he tracks back so it's all good.His expected assists. Remember, he is a RW:
It's interesting that some are comparing Antony to Lindgard and Nani ( who was never world class btw...)
People see football differently. Nani was incredibly inconsistent, and again, talented with a few flash moments, but overrated.
I sometimes wonder what type of player some fans think fit a United profile. Lindgard, Nani, Antony... none of these do for me.
Garnacho is a young Manchester United player. Completely different mindset to all those players mentioned.
People see football differently. Nani was incredibly inconsistent, and again, talented with a few flash moments, but overrated.
I sometimes wonder what type of player some fans think fit a United profile. Lindgard, Nani, Antony... none of these do for me.
Garnacho is a young Manchester United player. Completely different mindset to all those players mentioned.
He was the best winger in the league around 2010. He had a two-season peak where he was undeniably world-class. We'd be extremely lucky if Antony comes close to Nani's level.
Dissapointint so far. I reckon i never watched much of him at ajax, but he seemed the answer to our right wing problems
It turns out he cant dribble or outpace fullbacks. He doesnt have a good right foot, not a great football iq and also his hair is shit, not taken care properly.
It could be a patch of bad form but the signs are not promising at all
It turns out he cant dribble or outpace fullbacks. He doesnt have a good right foot, not a great football iq and also his hair is shit, not taken care properly.
It could be a patch of bad form but the signs are not promising at all
He needs to bulk up. And that should be United's aim this summer
His main weakness for me is that he simply lacks strength and defenders are dispossessing him with ease
His main weakness for me is that he simply lacks strength and defenders are dispossessing him with ease
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