Antoine Griezmann | Signs new contract until 2021

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JPRouve said:
Griezmann defends really well, if he was to play wide there would be no problem, his fullback would be supported.

Edit: If I had to describe Griezmann I would say that he is an elegant version of Muller.
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Made the exact same comparison a few minutes back :)

I stand corrected by you and Damien on his effectiveness from the RW position though. At the same time, I'm still not sure it is ideal for us. It would result in us having a ST, Greizmann (RW) and Martial (LW), all essentially dying to be in the centre. You think it would work? I'd much rather play Griezmann behind the striker and let Martial and the RW give us ample width and pace from wide areas. Plus it would also, depending on who is our striker, result in Martial being the main really explosive player in the team, whereas I'd prefer two.
 
Kag said:
But can he spread the play? Does he have vision?
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He has vision, he is good dribbler, a good passer, he is good at free kicks and he has a very good timing when it comes to heading the ball. But he isn't really fast and he isn't powerful which tell me that he can't play as a pure center forward in the PL.
 
Griezmann will become another AdM if you play him right wing.

He's excellent at counters and beating the offside trap from the centre. 2016 Atletico version is very different from 2014 Sociedad version.
 
JPRouve said:
He has vision, he is good dribbler, a good passer, he is good at free kicks and he has a very good timing when it comes to heading the ball. But he isn't really fast and he isn't powerful which tell me that he can't play as a pure center forward in the PL.
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Which is completely false, he's quick. and "Powerful" doesn't mean anything, Mahrez isn't powerful, Silva isnt powerful, De Bruyne isnt powerful. van Persie wasn't quick either. Bergkamp wasn't quick.

I've watched Atletico play three times last year at the Calderon and trust me he is good on the counter, he is their prime outlet on counter attacks.
 
TheNewEra said:
Which is completely false, he's quick. and "Powerful" doesn't mean anything, Mahrez isn't powerful, Silva isnt powerful, De Bruyne isnt powerful. van Persie wasn't quick either. Bergkamp wasn't quick.

I've watched Atletico play three times last year at the Calderon and trust me he is good on the counter, he is their prime outlet on counter attacks.
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Did you saw the "as a pure center forward", I never said that he can't play and perform in the PL, I said that it won't be as a pure center forward.
 
Cassidy said:
I agree, but we should still try
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I don't think we can afford to pay the ridiculous fee they'd ask for. We need at least 3 attackers IMO. And according to many here, we also need a CM and CB.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Made the exact same comparison a few minutes back :)

I stand corrected by you and Damien on his effectiveness from the RW position though. At the same time, I'm still not sure it is ideal for us. It would result in us having a ST, Greizmann (RW) and Martial (LW), all essentially dying to be in the centre. You think it would work? I'd much rather play Griezmann behind the striker and let Martial and the RW give us ample width and pace from wide areas. Plus it would also, depending on who is our striker, result in Martial being the main really explosive player in the team, whereas I'd prefer two.
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If you look at Madrid's front 3, or Barca's front 3, even PSG (Ibra, ADM and Cavani), they'd all love to be playing in the centre.

I don't think that's much of a hindrance tbh.
 
VanGaalEra said:
If you look at Madrid's front 3, or Barca's front 3, even PSG (Ibra, ADM and Cavani), they'd all love to be playing in the centre.

I don't think that's much of a hindrance tbh.
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I suppose, but Ronaldo, Bale, Messi and Neymar, are a lot quicker than Griezmann. Like I said, he'd be my number 1 priority this summer, but he's not a very explosive player (although he has his moments). He's more about intelligence and the timing of his bursts, which is really suited to the middle more.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I don't think we can afford to pay the ridiculous fee they'd ask for. We need at least 3 attackers IMO. And according to many here, we also need a CM and CB.
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We need his class of player and if we want to keep any credibility as a big club we need to spend it. Otherwise it will be more next tier players, so we will be a next tier team. If we went for Kane he will likely cost the same or knowing Levy, even more. Last season they should have being the real class players to add to the previous seasons, we bought a RB that the manager has destroyed his confidence, a has been midfielder that Bayern couldn't get rid of quick enough, a midfielder from the PL that the manager has decided not to play and is another whose confidence must be shot to pieces, A so called winger who cannot seem to do anything right. The only success is Martial, who for all that is not the 20 odd goal a season striker we needed, he might become that but he isn't now. We are some way behind and this summer will define our next few years as a club.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I suppose, but Ronaldo, Bale, Messi and Neymar, are a lot quicker than Griezmann. Like I said, he'd be my number 1 priority this summer, but he's not a very explosive player (although he has his moments). He's more about intelligence and the timing of his bursts, which is really suited to the middle more.
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He is suited to the middle if you put a striker infront of him otherwise you are just going to expose his weaknesses. We need to remember that he has been partnered with Torres, Mandzukic and Raul Garcia, he is rarely played alone through middle.
 
JPRouve said:
He is suited to the middle if you put a striker infront of him otherwise you are just going to expose his weaknesses. We need to remember that he has been partnered with Torres, Mandzukic and Raul Garcia, he is rarely played alone through middle.
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That's why I want us to sign him and play him behind the striker.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I don't think we can afford to pay the ridiculous fee they'd ask for. We need at least 3 attackers IMO. And according to many here, we also need a CM and CB.
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Fellaini, Herrera, Scheniderlin, Schweinsteiger and sorta Blind in the past 3 seasons and we still need a new center midfield. It's incredible. (I'm not disagreeing with you btw).

Sir Alex probably signed 5 in the his ten years. (Even then only Carrick, Hargreaves and Anderson come to mind)
 
I would prefer if we bought him to float behind striker and then purchase a right sided attacker. We don't need a number 10 as such. He is an excellent player and definitely my dream signing, was last year too. I think even without CL if we meet buyout he'd seriously consider the switch. With LVG here though I'd have my doubts.
Sanches although overpriced seems like a very possible addition due to scouting him so many times and many journos believing we are set to sign him, he would provide much needed bite and legs to our midfield. Add a new CB and right sided player, I've gone for my preferred choice, I think we'd be very formidable. Although I think we'd need to spend at least 160m in transfer fees to get us challenging again subsidised by some sales of course.

--------Rashford
Martial Greizmann Mahrez
---Schneiderlin Sanches
Shaw NewCB Smalling Fosu
----------De Gea
 
Not sure about the credibility of it. It is easy to link us with him currently in the form he is, he gets the muppet juices flowing and is still, sort of, attainable.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
That's why I want us to sign him and play him behind the striker.
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Yeah, that's probably the position where he can exploit all his qualities. On a side note, I would love to see him play with Fekir, they seemed to form a great partnership.
 
Stringer said:
I'd rather we didn't waste another summer chasing unobtainable targets.
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How is he unobtainable? Yes it'll cost a lot of money, but maybe he's fed up of playing hunt the chicken instead of football, and isn't he and his brother supposedly Utd fans? :drool:
 
Stringer said:
I'd rather we didn't waste another summer chasing unobtainable targets.
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I am not sure if he is unobtainable, but we need to make contact and find out the situation. Not let the player string us along. Set a deadline and then if a negotiating a new contract tactic, move on. That is where we have been going wrong.
 
Pay whatever it takes and let him play in Lingards role.
Get someone in to play wide right and we are set.
 
The only thing that makes think we have a slight chance is that he's a fan.
I think when push comes to shove, he will decide to stay.
 
Would be an absolute dream signing which might negate the need to buy and out-and-out striker if we're playing him off the forward. Probably a risky move though.

If that were the case, I'd love us to sign both a left-winger and right-winger also and the team could have a similar set up to that of a Leicester/Atletico. Rotate Martial and Rashford upfront with an improvement on Lingard on the right and a left-winger to take the vacated spot from Martial moving up-top.

That would certainly suit a Mourinho side, though would probably mean moving away from possession-football. It would suit Mourinho anyhow.

Griezmann is just such a big-game player though and always seems to score the vital goal.
 
NJM78 said:
I would prefer if we bought him to float behind striker and then purchase a right sided attacker. We don't need a number 10 as such. He is an excellent player and definitely my dream signing, was last year too. I think even without CL if we meet buyout he'd seriously consider the switch. With LVG here though I'd have my doubts.
Sanches although overpriced seems like a very possible addition due to scouting him so many times and many journos believing we are set to sign him, he would provide much needed bite and legs to our midfield. Add a new CB and right sided player, I've gone for my preferred choice, I think we'd be very formidable. Although I think we'd need to spend at least 160m in transfer fees to get us challenging again subsidised by some sales of course.

--------Rashford
Martial Greizmann Mahrez
---Schneiderlin Sanches
Shaw NewCB Smalling Fosu
----------De Gea
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That's a really uninspiring midfield pairing and they both do the same job.
 
How much would he be on at Atletico? ~£125k? I guess not that many players can turn down having their wages doubled, so it's a possibility, but I'd imagine most top teams would be willing to pay him that, so it's not that likely, really.
 
Don't get why people want to put so much pressure on rashford like that. But griezmann would be a terrific signing.
 
Brophs said:
How much would he be on at Atletico? ~£125k? I guess not that many players can turn down having their wages doubled, so it's a possibility, but I'd imagine most top teams would be willing to pay him that, so it's not that likely, really.
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Yeah i don't think it's a question of money for him as most top clubs would be willing and can afford to pay him silly wages. Btw he's currently on £115k per week. He's their third highest paid player after Godin (£145k) and Koke(£192k).
 
ivaldo said:
That's a really uninspiring midfield pairing and they both do the same job.
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only if you believe sanches is an overrated player that doesnt have any talent, if however you recognise him as someone whos powerful, strong, energetic and quick with a strong technical game to boot, then that midfield paring looks very complementary
 
I don't know why people are worried we are a stepping stone, if he comes to us he is taking a step down so he's probably not too fussed about his final transfer. He is in as good a position now as he will ever be for moving to anyone he wants.
 
pcaming said:
Don't get why people want to put so much pressure on rashford like that. But griezmann would be a terrific signing.
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Signing Griezmann puts pressure on Rashford? It does the opposite
 
He is some player. His close control is brilliant. Where would we play him though?
 
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