Antoine Griezmann| Signs a new contract till 2022

[breakout67]

You guys really like forcing Martial into your projected lineups despite him essentially being one of the biggest flops of last season. I don't think he's good enough to warrant "having faith" in him and needs to earn his spot back.

I agree, Perisic is nothing special but i see him as a clear upgrade on Martial. Perisic is defensively excellent along the flank, holds the ball up in advanced positions to let players push up from a low block, can create shooting opportunities from difficult situations.

Martial needs to be more dynamic; he is very fast and powerful but doesnt use his speed or power that often, instead he prefers to receive the ball to feet and dribble into defenders to try to go past them. The only player that can dribble past 2 defenders and score at will is Messi, Martial needs to vary his game.

Martial has the potential but is not showing it on the pitch.

 

[Ronaldo's Mum Eh?]

I honestly can't wait until he comes. I can't believe he's joining us. This is surreal. This is bigger than Pogba and Zlatan.

Holy feck!!!!

 

[Tiber]

 

[Peyroteo]

If you sign Griezmann how do you think you'll play him? He plays better as a second striker but Mourinho usually doesn't go with a 4-4-2 and Pogba in a midfield 2 isn't ideal either.

 

[Tiber]

This thread lacks raw meat for the muppets





We will never reach the heights of the Pogba thread again, but that is no reason not to try. Step it up fellow muppets

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

I honestly can't wait until he comes. I can't believe he's joining us. This is surreal. This is bigger than Pogba and Zlatan.

Holy feck!!!!

Pogba was pretty big tbh.

Don't forget the amount of posters who were nervous and just waited for Real to swoop in.

Plus it dragged out and was the muppet threads of all threads here on the cafe.

 

[M4YON]

If you sign Griezmann how do you think you'll play him? He plays better as a second striker but Mourinho usually doesn't go with a 4-4-2 and Pogba in a midfield 2 isn't ideal either.

Could play him in the middle just behind the striker in a 4-2-3-1

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

If you sign Griezmann how do you think you'll play him? He plays better as a second striker but Mourinho usually doesn't go with a 4-4-2 and Pogba in a midfield 2 isn't ideal either.

I think Pogba's been better lately in a midfield 2 and his defensive nous has improved.

I'd imagine behind a striker. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see him wide right with freedom to drift inwards in some games too.

 

[ChaddyP]

He is gonna be a star for us. Everything Rooney used to be at #10 and more. The goals will come raining at Old trafford again.

 

[Red Star One]

I honestly can't wait until he comes. I can't believe he's joining us. This is surreal. This is bigger than Pogba and Zlatan.

Holy feck!!!!

I think Pogba was much bigger though. We were in a dire state with no Champions League and little passion on the pitch. Griezmann is huge, but Pogba was more important I think

 

[Borden]

You guys really like forcing Martial into your projected lineups despite him essentially being one of the biggest flops of last season. I don't think he's good enough to warrant "having faith" in him and needs to earn his spot back.

We've seen what Martial can do. 8 goals and 6 assists in 2000 minutes is hardly appalling either, even if he had a disappointing season.

 

[Infra-red]

If you sign Griezmann how do you think you'll play him? He plays better as a second striker but Mourinho usually doesn't go with a 4-4-2 and Pogba in a midfield 2 isn't ideal either.

On the right of the front three in a 4-3-3 or behind the striker in a 4-2-3-1. Mourinho will likely continue to alternate between these two systems, as he has done since 2010.

 

[Tiber]

I honestly can't wait until he comes. I can't believe he's joining us. This is surreal. This is bigger than Pogba and Zlatan.

Holy feck!!!!

Zlatan was an aging mercenary who signed for a one last huge payday before heading for the MLS, not a huge deal.

The Pogba deal? Leaving a great Juve team to sign for United when we didnt even finish in the top 4? That was a statement that will not be topped for many years

 

[Peyroteo]

Could play him in the middle just behind the striker in a 4-2-3-1

But he's very attacking and he needs to be closer to goal. I think if you play him there it will be more of a 4-4-2 than a 4-2-3-1 and you will risk getting outnumbered in midfield. I'm not sure how this is going to work. He's not really at his best playing out wide either.

Mourinho will have to solve the problem Deschamps couldn't with France and that's how to get the best out of both Pogba and Griezmann with the same starting eleven

 

[maba723]

Even Ramos is joining in on the action
Ramos: "It's Griezmann who decides what he wants. If he leaves Atletico then its one less problem for everyone in this league."

 

[breakout67]

But he's very attacking and he needs to be closer to goal. I think if you play him there it will be more of a 4-4-2 than a 4-2-3-1 and you will risk getting outnumbered in midfield. I'm not sure how this is going to work

This is completely different to the way Griezmann plays. He contributes in the build up play, and is a key part in turning over possession and transitioning the team from defence to attack. He is not a pure goalscorer and has much more to his game than that, the reason why he is one of the best players in the world is because he gets 30+ goals and assists while also contributing in other phases of the game.

 

[Nate Dogg]

Not gonna believe it's happenimg until Richard Keys tweets saying it's a done deal

 

[Pace Abuser]

Zlatan was an aging mercenary who signed for a one last huge payday before heading for the MLS, not a huge deal.

The Pogba deal? Leaving a great Juve team to sign for United when we didnt even finish in the top 4? That was a statement that will not be topped for many years

You're a fun bloke. Must be gutted we didn't get Lee Cattermole instead.

 

[spwd]

This thread lacks raw meat for the muppets





We will never reach the heights of the Pogba thread again, but that is no reason not to try. Step it up fellow muppets

Feck me that skills video is insane, if we get his feet and pogbas working together it'll be ridiculous, also is he that quick or do the vids make him look quicker because he looks rapid?

 

[Womp]

But he's very attacking and he needs to be closer to goal. I think if you play him there it will be more of a 4-4-2 than a 4-2-3-1 and you will risk getting outnumbered in midfield. I'm not sure how this is going to work. He's not really at his best playing out wide either.

Mourinho will have to solve the problem Deschamps couldn't with France and that's how to get the best out of both Pogba and Griezmann with the same starting eleven

He drops deep to influence play for Atleti. In fact one of the reasons Jose is so interested is because of his workrate. Having played under Simeone, he runs his bollocks off, it only seems like he's a purely attacking player because of how decisive his goals usually are.

 

[DWelbz19]

He drops deep to influence play for Atleti. In fact one of the reasons Jose is so interested is because of his workrate. Having played under Simeone, he runs his bollocks off, it only seems like he's a purely attacking player because of how decisive his goals usually are.

Not only this, but he played the most games/minutes of all players in the top 5 leagues. Pogba was 7th.
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Grizou = Warrior Alert

 

[M4YON]

But he's very attacking and he needs to be closer to goal. I think if you play him there it will be more of a 4-4-2 than a 4-2-3-1 and you will risk getting outnumbered in midfield. I'm not sure how this is going to work. He's not really at his best playing out wide either.

Mourinho will have to solve the problem Deschamps couldn't with France and that's how to get the best out of both Pogba and Griezmann with the same starting eleven

Do you watch much of Atletico? they are a very defensive side in which all players are expected to get back and defend which Grieizmann does and does well. He could play anywhere along a the 3 behind a striker in a 4-2-3-1 as could Mkhi so it's diverse.

He could play a 4-3-3 with which Griezmann has played in before as RW and since playing as a second striker is his party piece he could play as a false 9 in a 4-3-3 too.

Then there's a chance we coukd play a 4-4-1-1 in which he would play again just behind the striker.

What I'm trying to say is Griezmann is versatile in his position and he fits Mourinho's get back and defend mindset when we don't have possession, he's perfect for United.

 

[YouOnlyLiveTwice]

Yeah, he is very versatile. Obviously the best way to utilize him is as a secondary-striker/#10, but for tougher games with a different game plan he can easily do a job out wide be it left or right.

 

[Peyroteo]

This is completely different to the way Griezmann plays. He contributes in the build up play, and is a key part in turning over possession and transitioning the team from defence to attack. He is not a pure goalscorer and has much more to his game than that, the reason why he is one of the best players in the world is because he scores 30+ goals while also contributing in other phases of the game.

He comes deep sometimes, but that doesn't make him a 10. He never has been. He's a second striker and you have a manager that very rarely plays 4-4-2 and Pogba who is a sure starter fits better in a 4-3-3. That seems problematic.

I'm not saying he doesn't contribute to the other phases of the game, but if you're going to play him plus a forward you're going to need to get the right players to make that midfield work.

 

[cantona7676]

If you sign Griezmann how do you think you'll play him? He plays better as a second striker but Mourinho usually doesn't go with a 4-4-2 and Pogba in a midfield 2 isn't ideal either.

Play a 4-3-3 with a couple of additional signings,

-------------------De-Gea------------------
--Valencia-----Bailly----Van Dijk----Shaw--
-------------------Fabinho------------------
---------Herrera--------------Pogba--------
------------------Greizmann----------------
-----------Rashford-------Martial-----------

 

[Peyroteo]

Do you watch much of Atletico? they are a very defensive side in which all players are expected to get back and defend which Grieizmann does and does well. He could play anywhere along a the 3 behind a striker in a 4-2-3-1 as could Mkhi so it's diverse.

He could play a 4-3-3 with which Griezmann has played in before as RW and since playing as a second striker is his party piece he could play as a false 9 in a 4-3-3 too.

Then there's a chance we coukd play a 4-4-1-1 in which he would play again just behind the striker.

What I'm trying to say is Griezmann is versatile in his position and he fits Mourinho's get back and defend mindset when we don't have possession, he's perfect for United.

I watch most of Atléticos matches. Paying what you're paying for him and playing him out of position - RW or lone striker which are two positions where he doesn't perform to the same standard- isn't going to work. How do you see United lining up next season? I'm saying this because a front 6 of Herrera-Pogba in the middle, 2 wide players, Griezmann + a striker seems unbalanced.

 

[Parry Gallister]

Would have the best first touch in our team, besides Fellaini's chest - another way of bringing the wide lads into play. High scorer, good speed, can beat a man - would finally be a worthy 10 and can go wide or as a 9 too. Like how he takes risks when passing, wouldn't have the Rooney trademark pass happening all the time from that position (even if that means Tony V would have less to do...) Would contribute to our handsome 11 too. Hope it happens, and soon.

 

[caid]

He comes deep sometimes, but that doesn't make him a 10. He never has been. He's a second striker and you have a manager that very rarely plays 4-4-2 and Pogba who is a sure starter fits better in a 4-3-3. That seems problematic.

I'm not saying he doesn't contribute to the other phases of the game, but if you're going to play him plus a forward you're going to need to get the right players to make that midfield work.

Im not sure his best position is playing in a 442 so much as
thats the Simeones favoured formation and his best years have been playing under simeone

I largely agree that its not ideal for pogba but its something he needs to adjust to tbh and not just because of griezmann.
Same with Griezmann really. He'll be pushed wide sometimes. Not every team is going to be able to accomodate playing him as a second striker

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

This thread lacks raw meat for the muppets

He linked up pretty well with Giroud in the Euros. Can envisage Zlatan flicking some juicy passes for him to run onto, both have played well in a strikeforce of 2. However, no idea what the Zlatan situation is with his contract/injury.

 

[YouOnlyLiveTwice]

I watch most of Atléticos matches. Paying what you're paying for him and playing him out of position - RW or lone striker which are two positions where he doesn't perform to the same standard- isn't going to work. How do you see United lining up next season? I'm saying this because a front 6 of Herrera-Pogba in the middle, 2 wide players, Griezmann + a striker seems unbalanced.

It's a bit of a concern, but we can always switch to a 3 man midfield and put him out wide or even up top if we have to play against tough opposition.

With Pogba + a new DM(hopefully Fabinho), Mkhitaryan + Perisic(possibly) out wide and Griezmann behind the striker it's fine against most teams at home. Against top 6 we would have to put an extra midfielder(Herrera) in there to add a bit of balance and play Griezmann out wide. Griezmann's breakthrough season at Sociedad was as a wide-forward, he played on the left and scored around 15 goals in the league from there, so he is more than capable of it.

 

[Berbasbullet]

You guys really like forcing Martial into your projected lineups despite him essentially being one of the biggest flops of last season. I don't think he's good enough to warrant "having faith" in him and needs to earn his spot back.

Agreed, needs to put more work in and work hard on his movement. Since the Euros he has been super poor.

 

[Peyroteo]

It's a bit of a concern, but we can always switch to a 3 man midfield and put him out wide or even up top if we have to play against tough opposition.

With Pogba + a new DM(hopefully Fabinho), Mkhitaryan + Perisic(possibly) out wide and Griezmann behind the striker it's fine against most teams at home. Against top 6 we would have to put an extra midfielder(Herrera) in there to add a bit of balance and play Griezmann out wide. Griezmann's breakthrough season at Sociedad was as a wide-forward, he played on the left and scored around 15 goals in the league from there, so he is more than capable of it.

Yeah, that would make sense. I can definitely see Mourinho putting him up top on his own against tougher opponents, but it depends on if you buy a striker or not. Rashford off the bench will be a nightmare to most teams too

 

[breakout67]

He comes deep sometimes, but that doesn't make him a 10. He never has been. He's a second striker and you have a manager that very rarely plays 4-4-2 and Pogba who is a sure starter fits better in a 4-3-3. That seems problematic.

I'm not saying he doesn't contribute to the other phases of the game, but if you're going to play him plus a forward you're going to need to get the right players to make that midfield work.

Since when did all the world class footballers at our team or potentially coming to our team require such specific circumstances to excel? If these players are so limited as you say then why did we even want them...

Griezmann has everything Mata has and more yet he cannot play as a no.10...very strange. Pogba has one of the best passing range and vision in the world and is a physical powerhouse yet people think he should be pushed up the field where he can have less influence on the game.

 

[DWelbz19]

I watch most of Atléticos matches. Paying what you're paying for him and playing him out of position - RW or lone striker which are two positions where he doesn't perform to the same standard- isn't going to work. How do you see United lining up next season? I'm saying this because a front 6 of Herrera-Pogba in the middle, 2 wide players, Griezmann + a striker seems unbalanced.

If the choice was between Griezmann and a true no.9 - I'd go for the former. I'd be willing to sacrifice some balance because I'm not sure the ability is there in the rumoured number 9s.

 

[Berbasbullet]

I watch most of Atléticos matches. Paying what you're paying for him and playing him out of position - RW or lone striker which are two positions where he doesn't perform to the same standard- isn't going to work. How do you see United lining up next season? I'm saying this because a front 6 of Herrera-Pogba in the middle, 2 wide players, Griezmann + a striker seems unbalanced.

In games we are strong favourites in it seems fine to me (Like 30+ games a season).

 

[M4YON]

I watch most of Atléticos matches. Paying what you're paying for him and playing him out of position - RW or lone striker which are two positions where he doesn't perform to the same standard- isn't going to work. How do you see United lining up next season? I'm saying this because a front 6 of Herrera-Pogba in the middle, 2 wide players, Griezmann + a striker seems unbalanced.

If Mourinho is going to go back to his favourite formation it will be along the lines of this dependingon who we sign.

 

[VP89]

If Mourinho is going to go back to his favourite formation it will be along the lines of this dependingon who we sign.

I think the key to success lies in recruiting a proper striker here. Rashford is not ready.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Never understood people who criticize player's celebration, especially if they are tame. It's his goal, he can celebrate it however the hell he wants as long as it's not hateful. Puma made a hell of an ad based on that celebration.

Never understood people that take things so serious. It was a little joke. Deary me. If he celebrates, as @Sammyjunn said, it means he's scored. If he scores, then I'm happy. That is assuming he joins United, of course.

 

[M4YON]

I think the key to success lies in recruiting a proper striker here. Rashford is not ready.

Not many options available (Belloti, Lukaku, Mbappe) going to cost us a pretty penny whoever we go for but i agree Rashford needs a someone to job share up top.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

If Mourinho is going to go back to his favourite formation it will be along the lines of this dependingon who we sign.

Like the look of that, although I'd make some minor changes.

Don't think we need a centre back and left back. Well, I don't think Mourinho will get both.

Also think its vital we get a holding midfielder this season to replace Carrick. Can imagine we'll play a 3 man midfield quite a few times next season too, meaning we'd need more than 4 midfielders.

Think Ibrahimovic will be our striker next season. We'll probably splash out on a striker the season after next.

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