While you're correct that it's easier to score in La Liga than the Premier League, in no way does that mean we shouldn't get Griezmann. Your argument would be a lot better if we had loads of quality in our team but we do not. He's easily better than any of our front 4 (not counting Zlatan), so it's an improvement even if he can't quite match the numbers he reached at Atletico. As another poster showed, there are plenty of examples of players succeeding in both La Liga and the Premier League as well. Griezmann has also performed to a high level for his country too. If he's available it would make little sense to not sign him.
I always said this: ATM is a club who sells.They pretty much did the same with Aguero, Falcao and Costa. It doesn't matter that much if we win the Europa League or not. The real problem is the transfer ban.
Is it almost time to bring out the sock from under my bed?
It hasn't seen the light of day since Pogba's plane landed in Manchester last year.
He's won the Spanish super cup (charity shield type I think), France U19 euros and got the golden boot in the 2016 Euros. That's it!!I just realized....He has never actually won anything. Rashford in his 18 month career has more medals than him! No wonder he wants to leave.
You'd have to reload the game a few times just to get all those to agree terms in 1 window.
Griezmann £86m (buyout clause?).
Bale £90m-£100m (no way Real sell for less than £80m when that's the price they want for the likes of Di Maria).
Costa £40m (Bayern don't need to sell, we'd be lucky to get him for £40m truth be told).
Mendy £45m (there will be a lot of bidders).
Aurier £40m (PSG are loaded, but there are problems with Aurier's private life).
Varane £60m (could be more, given his age and the club. De Gea would have to be part of the deal to get both him and Bale in the same window, but I don't see it).
Oblak £50m (we won't get him for 40m if we also buy Griezmann. Atletico have Werner and Moya, but can't see them wanting to lose two of their most important players in the same window).
About £450m I think. You have to go wit the higher end of these estimates because it's us. We have a reputation of paying over the odds for players and that will follow us around until we win the league again and aren't seen as desperate.
You're quite optimistic, aren't you? Alba, Marquinhos, Aurier, Dier, Silva, and Griezmann all in this window? I think getting 2-3 of them seems to be a bit of a stretch.
But I wouldn't complain if it actually happened.
There's an interesting article on FFT on why Griezmann would be perfect for us: https://goo.gl/fSmRuC
I always said this: ATM is a club who sells.They pretty much did the same with Aguero, Falcao and Costa. It doesn't matter that much if we win the Europa League or not. The real problem is the transfer ban.
Bullocks, Michu, Aguero for that matter. Even Mata.It's easier to score in Spanish League.
I would like to add this here because everyone thinks that buying a proven La Liga scorer will also buy you a definite EPL scorer.
So, some examples of strikers that were good or better in Spain, but crap or worse in EPL and other champions.
Kanoute - He was African Footballer of the year (2007, Sevilla), but mediocre for the two London teams he played for, West Ham and Tottenham. He scored 1 goal per 2 games for Sevilla, but achieved only a 1:3 and 1:4 ratio for West Ham and Tottenham respectively.
Ricardo Oliveira - He always scored in a 1:2 ratio for every Spanish team he played for. Milan? It was 3 goals in 26 games. Almost 1:3.
Roberto Soldado - For Getafe and Valencia combined he scored more than one goal per 2 games, for Tottenham he was a crappaticious crap.
Adnriy Shevchenko - ... no words... OK, he didn't play in Spain, but the amount of crappiness we witnessed, proved how difficult the EPL is.
Is it wrong to wish this was done before the final so it takes the pressure off? To know we can sign the targets we wanted would take the pressure off for me as a watching supporter.
Maybe it is and the players know?
I always said this: ATM is a club who sells.They pretty much did the same with Aguero, Falcao and Costa. It doesn't matter that much if we win the Europa League or not. The real problem is the transfer ban.
Yeah, that's always a laugh especially when it's mostly fans of Liverpool, Spurs etc;Gotta love the people who say "If he's looking for trophies, United isn't the place for him" Ya I mean because we haven't won 2 possibly 3 trophies (3 possibly 4 if you want to count he CS) in the last 2 seasons or anything... Atletico hasn't won any thing in 3 years. So just going on trophies alone we'd be a step up for him compared to Atletico or even a team like City
Yeah even during our worst period in decades we're still picking up more trophies than Liverpool and Spurs, who ironically have the most cocky fans that like to mock us.Gotta love the people who say "If he's looking for trophies, United isn't the place for him" Ya I mean because we haven't won 2 possibly 3 trophies (3 possibly 4 if you want to count he CS) in the last 2 seasons or anything... Atletico hasn't won any thing in 3 years. So just going on trophies alone we'd be a step up for him compared to Atletico or even a team like City
You need to ask?How good is Griezeman?
I must admit I don't watch Spanish football but the fact that Aspas scored like 24 goals or something leads me to suspect that the quality is not that good beyond the top few teams (players like Soldado scored well in the past, etc).
How good is he compared to, say, Alexis Sanchez or Kane?
I wouldn't be asking otherwise!You need to ask?
This one's just the starter.
I have a feeling the main course could be pretty tasty
He was France's leading scorer at the Euros, scores in the UCL and in La Liga. Kane has yet to make his mark on the international or European stageI wouldn't be asking otherwise!
Griezmann for under £100m, Bale less than £80m (and if part of De Gea deal, probably worth £10-15m due to his injury situation), Costa £20-40m, Mendy £45m, Aurier £30m, Varane £60m, Oblak £40m
about £300m.
If you sold Mata, Fellaini, Smalling, Jones.. other riffraff, you'd probably get £50m back minimum.
Bale?!
How on earth hasn't anyone called you out for insane optimism!
Thanks. I think the difference between Sanchez and Kane is that Kane finishes off chances that others create for him (and does it very well) whereas Sanchez creates his own chances very often and drives his team forward. We could probably do with one of each type. It sounds like Griezeman is more the Sanchez type.He was France's leading scorer at the Euros, scores in the UCL and in La Liga. Kane has yet to make his mark on the international or European stage
Kane is sensational in the EPL without having any great dribbling skills or genuine pace. Griezmann has both and is a good header of the ball. Kane is proven at EPL level. We don't know how good AG would be yet.
Sanchez is unbelievable at EPL and international level for Chile. He can produce something from nothing even when he or the team are not playing well. Sensational dribbling and shooting ability.
IMO, Kane could lead the line for us better and finish those moves we are struggling to right now. AG, not convinced he would be as good in the EPL.
Sanchez, I'd have in a heartbeat but the image of him joking when Arsenal were getting stuffed makes me think of him as a bit of a cnut.
I'd still have Kane over the both of them
Griezmann for under £100m, Bale less than £80m (and if part of De Gea deal, probably worth £10-15m due to his injury situation), Costa £20-40m, Mendy £45m, Aurier £30m, Varane £60m, Oblak £40m
about £300m.
If you sold Mata, Fellaini, Smalling, Jones.. other riffraff, you'd probably get £50m back minimum.