This one's just the starter.
I have a feeling the main course could be pretty tasty
I have a feeling the main course could be pretty tasty
Antoine Griezmann| Signs a new contract till 2022
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Aurier, Marquinhos, Alba likely?
It is more likelier to see De Gea in goal than one of the three line up for us.
Aurier is definitely gettable.
Marquinhos is difficult, but I can't see any alternatives in the market and Mourinho will definitely be in the market for a top top CB this summer, he'll want either Varane or Marquinhos. I can't see him settling for anything less.
Alba, might be replaced as part of the overhaul needed at Barca. Might, just might be gettable but again it is another position where Mourinho will be craving top class experience.. and if Mendy goes City, he won't want to be caught with his pants down relying on Darmian or Shaw.
I really hope so. How good of a Summer is it going to be for us, if we have Griezmann in the bag early.
The only one of those trophies worth bragging about is the FA cup though, and we won't be holders for more than 4 more days. Not really that impressive a list. I doubt Griezmann gives a toss about the EL, CS and League Cup. He'll want to win the PL and CL, with the FA cup as a bonus. And we shouldn't be aiming any lower either.
2008 to 2013.
As for the bold part, I believe finishing is what cost us this season. For large parts of the season we were not winning games we really should have. 15 is an abnormally high number of games to draw and its not like we were drawing games we should have lost.
Why is it in your graphic only 3 players can move?
I'd love to see this.. but more likely to see this..
At least pogba can go backwards...the poor fullbacks cant.
People seem to be going a bit overboard here. I'd LOVE to see Griezmann sign for us, but isn't he currently negotiating for a new contract with Atletico? Surely this is very likely to be a tactic to improve his position in negotiations?
My ideal team for next season would definitely include him if possible, but I don't really see why he'd come here other than money atm.
My ideal team for next season would definitely include him if possible, but I don't really see why he'd come here other than money atm.
What other clubs? The only other club mentioned was Real Madrid and they were given a no chance. The 6 out of 10 was pretty logical. CL is probably important BUT we have to have an offer accepted. So giving Athletico a 7 or higher number was obvious as it's too early to give much away. When he say's 6? It's probably an 8
The clubs he would rather go to. That's my point.
He probably has an offer from United on the table, he's not sure on United but no other clubs are committing. What better way to generate some interest than effectively saying a) he is open to leaving Atleti and b) he's not blown away by the Man Utd opportunity. Has pissed me off because I think Man Utd have effectively become a bargaining chip to many players (think Dani Alves, Sergio Ramos) because we are cash rich and a desperate to hire superstar names.
I just realized....He has never actually won anything. Rashford in his 18 month career has more medals than him! No wonder he wants to leave.
Heard that last night, was he not in the squad that won La Liga a few years back?
I'd pay them that just to take him
No, he was signed the following summer.
It's easier to score in Spanish League.
I would like to add this here because everyone thinks that buying a proven La Liga scorer will also buy you a definite EPL scorer.
So, some examples of strikers that were good or better in Spain, but crap or worse in EPL and other champions.
Kanoute - He was African Footballer of the year (2007, Sevilla), but mediocre for the two London teams he played for, West Ham and Tottenham. He scored 1 goal per 2 games for Sevilla, but achieved only a 1:3 and 1:4 ratio for West Ham and Tottenham respectively.
Ricardo Oliveira - He always scored in a 1:2 ratio for every Spanish team he played for. Milan? It was 3 goals in 26 games. Almost 1:3.
Roberto Soldado - For Getafe and Valencia combined he scored more than one goal per 2 games, for Tottenham he was a crappaticious crap.
Adnriy Shevchenko - ... no words... OK, he didn't play in Spain, but the amount of crappiness we witnessed, proved how difficult the EPL is.
I would like to add this here because everyone thinks that buying a proven La Liga scorer will also buy you a definite EPL scorer.
So, some examples of strikers that were good or better in Spain, but crap or worse in EPL and other champions.
Kanoute - He was African Footballer of the year (2007, Sevilla), but mediocre for the two London teams he played for, West Ham and Tottenham. He scored 1 goal per 2 games for Sevilla, but achieved only a 1:3 and 1:4 ratio for West Ham and Tottenham respectively.
Ricardo Oliveira - He always scored in a 1:2 ratio for every Spanish team he played for. Milan? It was 3 goals in 26 games. Almost 1:3.
Roberto Soldado - For Getafe and Valencia combined he scored more than one goal per 2 games, for Tottenham he was a crappaticious crap.
Adnriy Shevchenko - ... no words... OK, he didn't play in Spain, but the amount of crappiness we witnessed, proved how difficult the EPL is.
That's what it sounds like to me as well, except maybe he's still picking between a couple of different offers.
Does anyone know if he's good friends with Pogba? I feel like that could potentially help influence his decision
I'd love to see this.. but more likely to see this..
The first XI would cost about 500m and replaces 8 starting players. The second is more realistic, but there's no way we'll see three new starters in the back line (four if you include Dier as CDM).
Striker, AM, CM, LB, CB. Five players tops I think, and not all will be marquee names.
This is the kind of argument I just don't get. Off the top of my head:
1. Fernando Torres
2. Diego Costa
3. Sergio Aguero
That's just three from Atleti who moved. So, should we now say that buying an Atletico striker is a virtual guarantee of success?
David Silva
We need people who can score. Our problem this year wasn't against big team, but rather teams like Stoke, Hull, liverpool etc.
We can play with AG as a second striker/ attacking midfielder.
They were not worse, that's for sure. But I think they would have scored even more goals and each one of them would have lasted more seasons without injuries. Torres had stated something like "the pace of english football is torturing my body, I won't be able to carry on like this".\
My point is not "Don't buy Griezmann". My point is "let's see what happens".
There's an interesting article on FFT on why Griezmann would be perfect for us: https://goo.gl/fSmRuC
Could say the same about every signings then.
Fact is he is a top level player. That's all we need to know.
Fact is he is a top level player. That's all we need to know.
.... did he make a sixth joke?
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I was being sarcastic about the conjecture surrounding Griezmann and what he said in the interview. lol... PS: I wouldn't mind the nobel prize though.
Griezmann for under £100m, Bale less than £80m (and if part of De Gea deal, probably worth £10-15m due to his injury situation), Costa £20-40m, Mendy £45m, Aurier £30m, Varane £60m, Oblak £40m
about £300m.
If you sold Mata, Fellaini, Smalling, Jones.. other riffraff, you'd probably get £50m back minimum.
In English??
Can and will.
I've been saying this all season; with the release clause, all we need to do is make a move.
Of course he will come running to join us.
We are also a lot more likely to win trophies in the next few years than Athletico.
We are going to be Buy some absolute top tier talent this summer.
He seems a bit peeved about going out of the CL agaiiin. He said he is 7/10 to stay and only 6/10 to move to us, and that it depends on who Atletico sign--and therefore also on their transfer ban being lifted. If transfer ban is lifted and they sign his mate Lacazette amongst others, and he gets the pay he wants, then he will stay. If not, there is always us. We are being used as part of a negotiating tactic again. He sounds less than enthused about joining us, which is unsurprising if two CL semis and one final is not enough for him. Realistically he is still more likely to win the CL at Atletico than with us.
No the 6 is really the chance to sign at Manchester United, that's what he says in French. The journalist asks him if he realises what he's saying, and Antoine answered "yes".
You're quite optimistic, aren't you?
I'd love to see this.. but more likely to see this..
Alba, Marquinhos, Aurier, Dier, Silva, and Griezmann all in this window? I think getting 2-3 of them seems to be a bit of a stretch.But I wouldn't complain if it actually happened.
Journalist: Where will we be next season, Antoine Griezmann?
Antoine: Very good question, I think it will be decided in the next 2 weeks.
J: (drinking)
A: Oh, it's not bad for a response! Without stonewalling.
J: So, not, well, let's say for example, if I tell you Manchester United, like, David Beckam, what do you respond?
A: Possible.
J: (looking at Antoine)
A: Possible.
J: OK. So from 1 to 10, knowing that 10...
A: 10 it's done, right?
J: 10, you signed.
A: Alright, 6.
J: Oh yeah, really? Do you realise what you're saying?
A: Yeah, yeah.
J: Alright. It's the first time you're saying that.
A: Yeah, it's the first time.
J: So there is 6 chances out of 10 to go to Manchester United.
A: Yeah.
J: OK. I was expecting a real stonewalling but I didn't have it, thank you!
In today's market, I'd say that we should try to get at least £70-80m for those players. But then again, we often sell at our players at a very generous rate.
While you're correct that it's easier to score in La Liga than the Premier League, in no way does that mean we shouldn't get Griezmann. Your argument would be a lot better if we had loads of quality in our team but we do not. He's easily better than any of our front 4 (not counting Zlatan), so it's an improvement even if he can't quite match the numbers he reached at Atletico. As another poster showed, there are plenty of examples of players succeeding in both La Liga and the Premier League as well. Griezmann has also performed to a high level for his country too. If he's available it would make little sense to not sign him.
Griezmann £86m (buyout clause?).
Bale £90m-£100m (no way Real sell for less than £80m when that's the price they want for the likes of Di Maria).
Costa £40m (Bayern don't need to sell, we'd be lucky to get him for £40m truth be told).
Mendy £45m (there will be a lot of bidders).
Aurier £40m (PSG are loaded, but there are problems with Aurier's private life).
Varane £60m (could be more, given his age and the club. De Gea would have to be part of the deal to get both him and Bale in the same window, but I don't see it).
Oblak £50m (we won't get him for 40m if we also buy Griezmann. Atletico have Werner and Moya, but can't see them wanting to lose two of their most important players in the same window).
About £450m I think. You have to go wit the higher end of these estimates because it's us. We have a reputation of paying over the odds for players and that will follow us around until we win the league again and aren't seen as desperate.
You'd have to reload the game a few times just to get all those to agree terms in 1 window.
I'd love to see this.. but more likely to see this..
Rival fans up and down the country will be replying why go to Manchester United then, you just know it
I always said this: ATM is a club who sells.They pretty much did the same with Aguero, Falcao and Costa. It doesn't matter that much if we win the Europa League or not. The real problem is the transfer ban.
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