Anthony Martial

What do think of the (supposedly) imminent signing of Anthony Martial?


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Just been reading some french forums. There is a general disbelief and hilarity even at the thought of his signing being made for that kinda money.
still better than signing Obertan right? i remember someone (most probably you) saying that there was general disbelief that Obertan is going to such a big club
 
I like this deal better than Griezmann. His ceiling is unknown which makes the whole ordeal that much more exciting. Imagine if he really does turn out to be like prime Henry of the Invincibles. And just because someone is a passionate fan of our club doesn't guarantee success. Jonny Evans grew up being a United fan in a family of United fans, came through our system, loves the club, but it doesn't grant him some magical ability to perform better than he is capable of.

Better signing than Griezmann. Rawkish.
 
Well not marginally more if the 36m fee turns out to be correct. The initial fee for Rooney was 21m. Adjusting for inflation, it's similar but Rooney was more proven.
Wasn't Rooney 27m or 29m? Basically 30m. Don't remember if that was after add ons though. I'd assume with Martial it's the same, but who knows.

All I know is that United right now can afford to pay whatever they want with our sponsorship deals, so long as the other club has a price. We've scouted Martial for a while, so if we want him, it doesn't matter if his price is 10m or 40m or 60m. We can still get him if we really want him. Like we do with Martial. So the price is irrelevant when talking about United transfers I think, because of how much we can spend and be perfectly comfortable.
 
It's 50m euros. Which becomes 50m pounds. Which becomes 80m euros. Happens in every single transfer we make from Europe. People are feckwits.

Nailed it.

I saw it happen about 10 pages back when supporters from other clubs heard the news and wanted to poke fun at the fee.
 
Actually, Rooney did better than RvN in 2004/05: Van Nistelrooy was injured a lot and only scored 6 goals in 17 games in the league (and his CL stats were boosted by a four-goal haul against Sparta - loads of goals against poor European opposition away from home, sounds familiar?), Rooney scored 11 in 29. That kind of record from Martial would be absolutely fantastic but I can't really see that happening.
You didn't understand my point. RvN was injured but SAF could not have seen that. He bought Rooney not for the immediate impact but for potential as he could count on Rud to deliver (his injury obviously affected that).

Right now we are in a bad mess in terms of our striking department and we need someone to step in and be able take the mantle from Rooney. Don't think this lad is going to do so this season. That would mean we are gambling big time on a player while leaving ourselves vulnerable for this season as well. Does not sound like a smart policy.
 
I can only think we've been scouting him for a long time with a view to signing him sometime down the line, and have decided to take the plunge earlier than expected.

I just can't believe we've decided in the last 24/48 hours to sign a relatively unknown player for £36m.
 
Seeing how this came out of absolute nowhere, it will be interesting to see if there will be more surprises on deadline day. It seems like a crazy transfer but hopefully he's the real deal.
 
You didn't understand my point. RvN was injured but SAF could not have seen that. He bought Rooney not for the immediate impact but for potential as he could count on Rud to deliver (his injury obviously affected that).

Right now we are in a bad mess in terms of our striking department and we need someone to step in and be able take the mantle from Rooney. Don't think this lad is going to do so this season. That would mean we are gambling big time on a player while leaving ourselves vulnerable for this season as well. Does not sound like a smart policy.
And we replaced Beckham with Ronaldo (though in fairness, people did complain about that for three years before he turned into Ronaldo).
 
36m is a bit of risk, but considering our "netspend" we should be well able for that. It'll be steal if he turns out to be as good as some say. I say we risk it!

It's not really about losing the money as it is about setting a weird precedent, sign a 19 year old relatively unproven striker for £36m and other European teams with equally (even better) talented young players take note.
 
This is exactly the point.

We've missed out on the top young talents in world football these past few years because we have pissed our pants at the prospect of going big and going early.
These players then go on to prove their potential and get transferred to the sugar daddy clubs for 10 times what they would of cost a couple of years before because they don't care about developing players, let some other cnut do it and then they buy the outcome.
Everyone is going on saying "sign Bale for 80 million" "sign Harry Kane for 50 million" etc.

The time to sign these players was when the likes of spuds were first interested, and perhaps being a little bit less afraid to give these players a chance.
The one time we've done it in recent years was Pogba, who plain on the nose on your face was a good player and we fecked it up.
Yep. Had we waited for him to develop another year and show he's a world class talent to everyone, then Barca, madrid, chelsea, city, psg, bayern would all be in for him and driving the price up even more. Look at Hazard or Aguero. We missed out on them because we weren't willing to bid the high price they were asking, and now they're the best players in the league. Martial is more unproven but in 2 years or so he can definitely be up there with them. You wouldn't hear 1 person complain if we signed Aguero for 40m from atletico a year or 2 before city did. Same with Hazard. But we didn't and we missed out.
 
You didn't understand my point. RvN was injured but SAF could not have seen that. He bought Rooney not for the immediate impact but for potential as he could count on Rud to deliver (his injury obviously affected that).

Right now we are in a bad mess in terms of our striking department and we need someone to step in and be able take the mantle from Rooney. Don't think this lad is going to do so this season. That would mean we are gambling big time on a player while leaving ourselves vulnerable for this season as well. Does not sound like a smart policy.
Well yes, you're right about that. And with RvN not being able to deliver in 2004/05, we fell woefully short with Rooney (or Ronaldo) nowhere near ready to handle the burden of being the main man, we scored only 58 league goals.

So yeah, I'm basically agreeing with you right now while flaunting my historical knowledge.
 
I can only think we've been scouting him for a long time with a view to signing him sometime down the line, and have decided to take the plunge earlier than expected.

I just can't believe we've decided in the last 24/48 hours to sign a relatively unknown player for £36m.
Another poster said we've been scouting him since he was 13/14.
 
I can only think we've been scouting him for a long time with a view to signing him sometime down the line, and have decided to take the plunge earlier than expected.

I just can't believe we've decided in the last 24/48 hours to sign a relatively unknown player for £36m.


Two years ago we sort of did the same thing with Herrera. Not many honest united fans had really heard of him...
 
Just me who thinks its a bit worrying that we will be relying on him and Memphis heavily now then, both young and extremely talented, but a bit unproven?
 
Nailed it.

I saw it happen about 10 pages back when supporters from other clubs heard the news and wanted to poke fun at the fee.
It seems more a case of United and Monaco leaking different prices rather than what @TwoSheds suggestion
 
still better than signing Obertan right? i remember someone (most probably you) saying that there was general disbelief that Obertan is going to such a big club
I can't say I was the only one who thought but for sure yes, Obertan's signing surprised me highly at the time. Martial is simply better than Obertan, more promising and ability on the ball. He'll no doubt be better than Obertan.

Do they think he's good enough?

With the hope of being completely wrong and quoted numerous times in the future, I think he isn't. It's not our money so we shouldn't technically care but that's just impossible not to take into account.

Apparently, Lyon will get a big fee with this transfer too (around 20m euros).
 
Panic buy and way overprice. But he seems like the type of striker we need. Not the finish article yet but bags of potential it seems.
 
I can only think we've been scouting him for a long time with a view to signing him sometime down the line, and have decided to take the plunge earlier than expected.

I just can't believe we've decided in the last 24/48 hours to sign a relatively unknown player for £36m.

Ofcourse. That won't stop some from terming this a panic buy though. This is completely ignoring the fact that there's unlikely to be a single self respecting scouting network in the world who aren't aware of martial.
 
I like this deal better than Griezmann. His ceiling is unknown which makes the whole ordeal that much more exciting. Imagine if he really does turn out to be like prime Henry of the Invincibles. And just because someone is a passionate fan of our club doesn't guarantee success. Jonny Evans grew up being a United fan in a family of United fans, came through our system, loves the club, but it doesn't grant him some magical ability to perform better than he is capable of.

No. Just No.

Griezmann is 24 and the brightest CF prospect in la liga right now, his ceiling is also unknown.
 
20+ page thread based on a tweet. Delusional.

Thats got nothing to do with it. You're convincing yourself that this chap is a better deal than signing a class player like Griezmann simply because this is the player we're buying. Have you talked about him much prior to the link yesterday?

Your post just came across very rawkish. Desperate and delusional.
 
Ofcourse. That won't stop some from terming this a panic buy though. This is completely ignoring the fact that there's unlikely to be a single self respecting scouting network in the world who aren't aware of martial.

Pretty amazing how the context of this entire signing is based on a bad 5-10 min period away at Swansea, if it was done straight after the Brugge game the attitude towards this would have been different. I'm not really sure in the modern market what a good price is, I just hope the price doesn't impact on Martial's ability to produce.
 
Absolutely shocking if the numbers are correct. Honestly if this goes through at the numbers being touted its a total contradiction on the transfer policy we've been fronting up until now. I highly doubt he is better than what we currently have.

Im sorry but im very worried for this current season. Our planning is shocking as its been left to manifest until last day of the transfer window. This is not the actions of the biggest club in the world. After losing Falcao, Di Maria, RVP, De Gea, Hernandez and Januzaj it would take Bale and Robben also for me to class this window as a success.

Ok but why have you added things which haven't happened?
 
I can't say I was the only one who thought but for sure yes, Obertan's signing surprised me highly at the time. Martial is simply better than Obertan, more promising and ability on the ball. He'll no doubt be better than Obertan.



With the hope of being completely wrong and quoted numerous times in the future, I think he isn't. It's not our money so we shouldn't technically care but that's just impossible not to take into account.

Apparently, Lyon will get a big fee with this transfer too (around 20m euros).

What makes you think that? Just curious. Everything I've seen from him suggests that he'll be a great player. Obviously not the solution short term, but he can definitely contribute to us.
 
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