Yes. Hazard was the best player in that league for two seasons.
Not much different to Lucas though.
Anthony Martial
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Not much different to Lucas though.
Not really, if we've done our homework really well we won't be signing anyone on D-day minus 2. We snapped everyone we bought quick and with less fuss, we have done our homework on BFS, MS, Memphis, Darmian, but I honestly don't think LVG or the club would expect that Rooney is that bad
Wasn't Barca and Chelsea interested in him this transfer window?
Maybe we've been in contact for a while, that's what I'm saying. I don't think someone at the club thought yesterday - hey look at that guy Martial, lets get him.
sadly, I think they are, at least on this case.
Rumours of barca interest, the price quote was 25 milion euros We will pay more than double that.
Clubs don't function like that, even our 'joke of a club'.
Probably not yesterday, a week ago perhaps, or perhaps they've made several failed attempts at other names, but definitely there's abit of rushing and panic buying involved in here, whomever we might sign.
Van Gaal said yesterday after the game that we are not going to panic buy and if we are in for a player then we are scouting him for around a month at least. So, yeah I agree Martial must have been our radar for some time. This bid does look like a panic buy because of the amount and timing but my guess is our prime targets were some real big names and our strategy was trying for them till very end and if not move on to Martial as plan C/D whatever. Maybe if that was the case, still bidding for him a week ago at least would have been better as there was next to nothing chance of Bale/Neymar/Muller happening.
If you really think that you are mad and unrealistic person...
We are now in panic mode. Expect the same thing happening regarding a GK and probably a CB
It's 2 days before the the deadline day, forget about medical, he won't even have enough time to get to the airport and fly here in 48 hours. How's that for a proper planning?
Will he solve any of our problems this season?
I am really happy at signing one of best young talents (if all whats been said about him in the past 12 hours is true), but we also need an immediate solution to our current problems.
I am really happy at signing one of best young talents (if all whats been said about him in the past 12 hours is true), but we also need an immediate solution to our current problems.
as @The Man Himself said, maybe he was our option B and now our options A are unatainable we're going for him. I do agree we should have maybe go for him a week or 10 days ago when we realized we can't get options A.
Well anyone calling this a good transfer window is crazy.
Lessons have not been learnt from last year. Besides Berbatov, when did Fergie ever buy anyone on the last day of the window? It's a crazy time to buy players as prices are increased.
It's ashame. We had a good start in the window and we'd thought that we get a CB and striker.
Poor planning by Van Gaal. He knew what player Hernandez was. If he didn't fancy him last year, why would he this year? He should have got someone in early in the window.
And don't start on the goalkeeping situation.
Like Gary Neville said deadline day shows you which are the badly run clubs. We have clearly been after Muller all window now at the last minute given up and gone for a plan B.
50 m is fecking a lot but I always rated this kid since the first time I saw his name ( which was few hours ago ). If he comes, he'll be huge for us .
Don't worry lads, we got this spot on.Right ? Right?
Don't worry lads, we got this spot on.Right ? Right?
Rooney was bought not only on last day but very late in the day iirc.
I agree however we have no choice. We cant play the season with a non existent forward line and Romero as GK
Asking a 19 year old and 21 year old to solve our problems is a big ask. For me the most realistic player we could get who could solve our problem is Ibrahimovic. Maybe Griezmann too. But Ibrahimovic would bring a fear factor in the attack.
Ok now i know you are WUMing.
I like the idea of signing a young talent. There are a few concerns though. Firstly, if the price is true then that is a lot of pressure on a young guy. Every bad game he will get heavily criticised. Secondly, the fact that Rooney is utterly useless at the moment means that if Martial does have a bad game then people will be on his back because we don't have another decent option.
I wouldn't be against the move though. Not sure where it'd leave Wilson.
I wouldn't be against the move though. Not sure where it'd leave Wilson.
Then somebody needs a bloody head check at the club.
Don't care if we buy him on the deadline day to be fair, yea, we probably will get skint money wise on him as well but I'm fecking tired of seeing shit up front we've witnessed past last 6 games.
Well Newcastle forced our hand. That wasn't really a signing that we were going to make.
Is neville wrong? Is it wrong to say that we should have wrapped this up way before struggling on the last day? Hernandez was supposed to be the backup striker now he's sold. Now we are buying another striker who many have never heard of or seen him play after LVG told the press that he would only go for the best striker. He is getting caught in his own words all the time.
See the amount of articles that are there just to laugh at the way we re doing things. Just very weird. We have lost players when Fergie was there and the football was not that great in his final years but United were still a great club and were well respected. Now everyone takes pot shots at the way we do things. Just hard to take.
I am sorry but please enlighten me on this. We are ready to pay 40 million pounds for a guy who plays in one of the worst leagues in Europe and is very raw, but we don't consider griezman who is only 10 million pounds more with his clause, and is more suited to our system with better performances in one of the best leagues in the world.
a 19 yo and 21 yo is fine, we're not actually without proper players, we have Matta, BFS, MS, Carrick, Smailing that have been playing for years with enough experiences between them.
Darmian / Luke Shaw are very good players that have established themselves.
Both players (memphis and Martial) won't make us a CL contender, but they're good enough for now to stabilize (urgh hate the word) us for 4th and let's see where we go from there. It's real life football, sometimes a transfer just isn't happening for so many reasons, and I suspect most of the names that the fans want aren't interested, and we aren't going to break the bank with 350k / week for them either.
Darmian / Luke Shaw are very good players that have established themselves.
Both players (memphis and Martial) won't make us a CL contender, but they're good enough for now to stabilize (urgh hate the word) us for 4th and let's see where we go from there. It's real life football, sometimes a transfer just isn't happening for so many reasons, and I suspect most of the names that the fans want aren't interested, and we aren't going to break the bank with 350k / week for them either.
I am not sure Newcastle 'forced our hand' as their bid of 20m was rejected and I doubt they would have bid higher and that Everton would have sold Rooney to Newcastle. Your two sentences don't make any sense together as well because if he was a signing we weren't really going to make then we wouldn't have cared about Newcastle bid. It was Newcastle, not Arsenal or Chelsea.
Either way, it was deadline day signing and if we still agree with your post, it will go into 'panic buy' signing which we made just because someone forced our hand.
Ligue 1 isn't one of the worst leagues in Europe.
Also, Griezmann's release clause is around 60m, so 20m higher, and it is impossible to activate it this late in window (see Herrera).
Anyway, lets see if there is anything here.
Have you considered that Griezman probably aren't that much interested in us? Atletico Madrid has a bigger chance to win a trophy than us, he's settled there, and there's no guarantee that LVG wouldn't make a shit decision to play him all over the park
If we wanted to buy him, we should have done in july would have cost about 25 million max and come and integrated into the team and had some training done. He will be match fit, but he will have no idea about how our players play. The price tag will be brandished about on his head every game he fails to score or every trick he does not get right, every pass he fails to make. I feel we may destroy him before he plays for us as that price tag on such a young player could probably hang like a noose around his head. I remember berbatov being itchy about his price tag.
You can say james was bought by madrid similar to this, but even james had good season in porto. I dont recollect anyone being bought for such a hefty sum at such young age. Maybe rooney but rooney you knew he was destined to be great, with martial its iffy. I am not saying he isnt talented, he is probably more talented than lacazette, but his finishing and decisions will bring back memories of nani. If we wanted a young striker for 50 million(well we would have gotten him for less) it should have been dybala. Missed a trick there, this seems too desperate, too panicky, too risky.
I agree until you mentioned Dybala. The Argentinian had every set with Juventus. He got many fingers burned because of that including his former club and Arsenal who offered more money for him
No, I honestly not wuming, a deadline day deal is panic buying and a lack of preparation. Even if we pull the deal in time it'll took the players too much distraction with migration, finding housing, paperworks etc. It's not the best scenario moving to a new job in such a short window.
This is all a pure shame. Neville said that the deadline day just show how desperate we are since 3 years in this transfer market and we're unable to get who we want.
Our transfer policy is an absolute joke since 3 years. 400M+ spent since this time and we're still unable to compete witht the best team around.
As for Martial.... MAMA MIA ! 50M€ for him when we cancelled Pedro's deal ? That's unbeliveable from LVG and Woody.
Martial is not special at all ! He's been fired from Lyon's academy two years ago because of his behavior, he came to Monaco and had issues again with Jardim. He's only 18 and wanted to play as a 9 instead of Berba. He criticized his team mates, didn't worked at all at training and Jardim didn't played him a lot last year until December/January....
Who's the guy in charge of scooting at United saying that we should buy a 19 years old player who scored 11 goals in professional football in his carrer ? I'd rather take this cow Gomis if I had the choice !!!!!!!!!
I'm amazed, scared etc ! I saw a lot from him last year to know that he's not worth the gamble, that he'll provide NOTHING at United.
I'd rather go to Lyon and take Lacazette or Fekir
My god ! 50M for Martial !!!!!
I can't believe it.... SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME
Our transfer policy is an absolute joke since 3 years. 400M+ spent since this time and we're still unable to compete witht the best team around.
As for Martial.... MAMA MIA ! 50M€ for him when we cancelled Pedro's deal ? That's unbeliveable from LVG and Woody.
Martial is not special at all ! He's been fired from Lyon's academy two years ago because of his behavior, he came to Monaco and had issues again with Jardim. He's only 18 and wanted to play as a 9 instead of Berba. He criticized his team mates, didn't worked at all at training and Jardim didn't played him a lot last year until December/January....
Who's the guy in charge of scooting at United saying that we should buy a 19 years old player who scored 11 goals in professional football in his carrer ? I'd rather take this cow Gomis if I had the choice !!!!!!!!!
I'm amazed, scared etc ! I saw a lot from him last year to know that he's not worth the gamble, that he'll provide NOTHING at United.
I'd rather go to Lyon and take Lacazette or Fekir
My god ! 50M for Martial !!!!!
I can't believe it.... SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME
What? So everyone who has signed for a club within the last 48hrs don't get time for a medical? I think the hysteria is getting to people, calm down! Jesus!
Fair enough
What? He was recovering from injury and we weren't going to sign him.
Firstly this is the quote from Ferguson
Also you confusing the Newcastle of now to that Newcastle. They were bigger than Chelsea at that time and played much better football. They also had one of the best managers in Sir Bobby Robson, who got them into the champions league constantly. They also had a lot of decent young players and played attractive football.
I need this. We need this. Just buy a striker.
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