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2015-16 Performances

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6.6 Season Average Rating
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49
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17
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devilish said:
Cause it can be worse.

Im not panicking, Im just gutted that's all and I am sorry for LVG. He inherited too many crappy players and if shit hits fan the blame will fall on him
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How can you feel sorry for him if it's all come down to lack of personal(players). This excuse about 8 coach inheriting shit players doesn't apply to LVG right now given he's been at the club for 2 years and has had time to rid himself of what he considered dead woods or useless to his plans.

And he's had money to spend on a squad of his liking. If there happen to be a lack of further attacking options that would be on him, not anyone else. He got rid of other strikers he felts weren't going to cut it for him, was given the money to buy replacement but opted to go on with only Rooney(now if this is whether he didn't want to buy another striker beside martial or he couldn't pull it off despite trying, it's still on him).

I wish people would stop with this " Manager inherited crappy players therefore we feel sorry for him". This doesn't apply to Van Gaal anymore as I've explain in the above paragraphs.
 
Santoryo said:
How can you feel sorry for him if it's all come down to lack of personal(players). This excuse about 8 coach inheriting shit players doesn't apply to LVG right now given he's been at the club for 2 years and has had time to rid himself of what he considered dead woods or useless to his plans.

And he's had money to spend on a squad of his liking. If there happen to be a lack of further attacking options that would be on him, not anyone else. He got rid of other strikers he felts weren't going to cut it for him, was given the money to buy replacement but opted to go on with only Rooney(now if this is whether he didn't want to buy another striker beside martial or he couldn't pull it off despite trying, it's still on him).

I wish people would stop with this " Manager inherited crappy players therefore we feel sorry for him". This doesn't apply to Van Gaal anymore as I've explain in the above paragraphs.
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There's plenty of dead wood to clear and some will be more difficult to dislodge than others
 
devilish said:
There's plenty of dead wood to clear and some will be more difficult to dislodge than others
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I still don't see how that would excuse the manager if you were to lack attacking options when he was given the funds and had time to act.

This whole inheriting shit players narrative doesn't apply with Van Gaal right now. That would have made sense when he just got here and had to deal with the cards dealt to him, but right now it's not the case, he's bought his own players and had plenty of time doing so. The excuse about inheriting a terrible squad as to feel sorry for him is utter nonsense.
 
Santoryo said:
I still don't see how that would excuse the manager if you were to lack attacking options when he was given the funds and had time to act.

This whole inheriting shit players narrative doesn't apply with Van Gaal right now. That would have made sense when he just got here and had to deal with the cards dealt to him, but right now it's not the case, he's bought his own players and had plenty of time doing so. The excuse about inheriting a terrible squad as to feel sorry for him is utter nonsense.
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There's a limit to the amount of players a manager can bring in two summer transfer windows. Also players on high salary must first be sold to make way to other players and that is not as easy as you think especially if they happen to be on a long term contract
 
devilish said:
There's a limit to the amount of players a manager can bring in two summer transfer windows. Also players on high salary must first be sold to make way to other players and that is not as easy as you think especially if they happen to be on a long term contract
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You can also chose not to let players go unless you have suitable replacments.
 
devilish said:
Loaning Januzaj was a bit stupid. However I disagree on the second point for two reasons

a- football has changed. Defenses are getting tougher season after season. I was lucky to watch in summer a United game during the 90s and I was amazed how the EPL had improved on that level. Some of the spaces and mistakes done by the EPL defenders of the time would be considered hilarious in today's football. I wonder how many of those CBs would even make it to a top 5 EPL club these days. Also the systems had changed. The time of having two strikers upfront is over so you really need a top quality striker upfront. A Teddy or a Forlan type of striker will probably not do.

b- We need to understand that players are highly paid employees. We're talking here of people earning 70-300k a week here and not some clerk on minimum wage. That's why we simply didn't add more midfielders when we had a nearly 40 year old Giggs, Scholes, Cleverley, Fletcher and the rest of SAF's favourites there and that's why we couldn't add another striker in especially since we already have a 300k a week striker playing there.

I believe that Rooney is a bigger problem for the club than we simply think. He's on top salary, on a long term contract and he doesn't seem to want to go to Turkey or the MLS anytime soon. If the white Pele decides to remain to OT till the end of his contract than we'll probably not be able to add that quality striker we need as an alternative to Martial
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Everything you sais is true but it still doesn't need explain as to why LVG would make this stupid decision of going into the season with our current attacking options. Moyeq fecked us with the Rooney contract but it's thanks to that he is still so big and important at the club.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I understand the frustration (if he's injured). The rest (Rooney, Depay etc) haven't exactly filled people with confidence. But yeah, let's see what happens if he isn't available. From a personal POV, I have to say he's become one of the biggest reasons to look forward to watching us play so there's that side of it too.


Let's see what happens if he's out for Saturday first, and then see how we perform. For all we know we put out a good performance and win.
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We could well do but we should never be in a position where one injury should be any huge cause for concern.
 
acnumber9 said:
We could well do but we should never be in a position where one injury should be any huge cause for concern.
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Yet we've always been and so are plenty of teams.

Earlier it was Carrick being our only central midfielder under Sir Alex.

City last season had nothing in defence after their main two. Two of their three main defenders were Mangala and Demichelis.

Arsenal are always an injuring away from being completely fecked. Sometimes it's "we don't have a decent keeper", and other times it's "what if cock gets hurt".

The issue is more to do with the attackers we put faith in and how "well" they've done. Hopefully next summer we finally sort that out.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Yet we've always been and so are plenty of teams.

Earlier it was Carrick being our only central midfielder under Sir Alex.

City last season had nothing in defence after their main two. Two of their three main defenders were Mangala and Demichelis.

Arsenal are always an injuring away from being completely fecked. Sometimes it's "we don't have a decent keeper", and other times it's "what if cock gets hurt".

The issue is more to do with the attackers we put faith in and how "well" they've done. Hopefully next summer we finally sort that out.
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And when things like that happen it's braise of a mistake in not having sufficient cover. There's no excuse for going into the season with two strikers especially when has played as often out wide as up front. Arsenal isn't a great example for why this isn't a big deal.
 
acnumber9 said:
And when things like that happen it's braise of a mistake in not having sufficient cover. There's no excuse for going into the season with two strikers especially when has played as often out wide as up front. Arsenal isn't a great example for why this isn't a big deal.
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There's a lot that isn't ideal. Things tend to be less than ideal when you're on the road to the top. Unsurprisingly it's only the teams that have reached the pinnacle i.e Bayern, Barcelona, Madrid, and in terms of squad strength it seems, City that can usually say we don't have such issues in our squad.

I have to say I take this transition phase for what it is, which is how I saw 2003-06, where I do think we went wrong more than having two strikers up front, which I think isn't that bad a situation, is putting all our faith into an attack of Rooney, Depay, Young and Mata. But anyway, that's what we have for now.
 
Cassidy said:
You can also chose not to let players go unless you have suitable replacments.
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kouroux said:
Everything you sais is true but it still doesn't need explain as to why LVG would make this stupid decision of going into the season with our current attacking options. Moyeq fecked us with the Rooney contract but it's thanks to that he is still so big and important at the club.
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As said letting Januzaj go on loan was stupid. Selling Chicarito was stupid too unless he wanted to leave or/and it was the only way for us to bring Martial in. What concerns me is that we probably wont be bringing in a quality striker unless Rooney leaves. That's a bit of a problem since no one would want Rooney at this point
 
acnumber9 said:
We could well do but we should never be in a position where one injury should be any huge cause for concern.
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It's only a huge cause for concern because Rooney started the season so poorly. Which won't have been something taken into account when looking at resources for the season ahead. Even with Martial out, we have Lingard, Pereira, Mata, Young and Wilson all capable of playing the position he would most likely be used in. The fact that a couple of these players are relatively unproven youngsters is something a lot of us were happy enough with at the end of the transfer window, as it was evidence of Van Gaal's commitment to youth. Personally, I'd have to say I'm in favour Van Gaal's paradigm of having a lean squad and, hence, lots of opportunities for kids.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It's only a huge cause for concern because Rooney started the season so poorly. Which won't have been something taken into account when looking at resources for the season ahead. Even with Martial out, we have Lingard, Pereira, Mata, Young and Wilson all capable of playing the position he would most likely be used in. The fact that a couple of these players are relatively unproven youngsters is something a lot of us were happy enough with at the end of the transfer window, as it was evidence of Van Gaal's commitment to youth. Personally, I'd have to say I'm in favour Van Gaal's paradigm of having a lean squad and, hence, lots of opportunities for kids.
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True.

devilish said:
As said letting Januzaj go on loan was stupid. Selling Chicarito was stupid too unless he wanted to leave or/and it was the only way for us to bring Martial in. What concerns me is that we probably wont be bringing in a quality striker unless Rooney leaves. That's a bit of a problem since no one would want Rooney at this point
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I hope he returns in January. I'm a fan of the kid's abilities, and I thought he showed us some good stuff early on before he went on loan.
 
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Pogue Mahone said:
It's only a huge cause for concern because Rooney started the season so poorly. Which won't have been something taken into account when looking at resources for the season ahead. Even with Martial out, we have Lingard, Pereira, Mata, Young and Wilson all capable of playing the position he would most likely be used in. The fact that a couple of these players are relatively unproven youngsters is something a lot of us were happy enough with at the end of the transfer window, as it was evidence of Van Gaal's commitment to youth. Personally, I'd have to say I'm in favour Van Gaal's paradigm of having a lean squad and, hence, lots of opportunities for kids.
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It would still be an issue even if Rooney was in great form. Who do we look to from the bench if the game isn't going well? Fellaini as it has been all season with limited success. Given Wilson and Pereira's limited game time it becomes quite pointless really. Even when we need a goal he never has Wilson on the bench to throw on.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
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Erm...
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Is this definitely correct? I seen the same thing on Twitter but everyone is retweeting the same image with 84 likes. Has anyone seen it for themselves?

It would be a shame for United if he was out for any length of time, but especially for the player - at his age and given his current form
 
The Purist said:
Is this definitely correct? I seen the same thing on Twitter but everyone is retweeting the same image with 84 likes. Has anyone seen it for themselves?

It would be a shame for United if he was out for any length of time, but especially for the player - at his age and given his current form
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It's an Instagram post. Her account his private though so I can't check if it's legitimate, I can't imagine why it wouldn't be though.
 
I knew the injury wasn't serious the moment there wasn't any follow up about it and when Descamps basically said it was nothing. People love over reacting.

All the talks about twisted ankles and such were doing my head in, especially since the pessimism was unfounded and some just want to sound over dramatic.

He'll probably play Saturday unless Van Gaal want to rest him or something but as far as injury goes there is nothing to that.
 
That headline sounded scary. The article is much better though.

On another note - I have started liking Sport Witness a lot. Its good to have a genuine source compiling the information available. They seem to "get" united fans too.
 
CG1010 said:
That headline sounded scary. The article is much better though.

On another note - I have started liking Sport Witness a lot. Its good to have a genuine source compiling the information available. They seem to "get" united fans too.
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Sport Witness is quality.Although their headlines can be a tad misleading.
 
CG1010 said:
That headline sounded scary. The article is much better though.

On another note - I have started liking Sport Witness a lot. Its good to have a genuine source compiling the information available. They seem to "get" united fans too.
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Well because it is run mainly by United fans.
 
How fragile is our squad if it hangs on the availability of a 19 year old. Glad to hear its minor.
 
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I mean, thanks for the link and all but that tells us feck all we didn't know already. You could see by picture of the the bandage on his foot earlier in this thread that he'd injured his "coup de pied". I reckon the most likely mechanism was kicking the bottom of someone's boot. Which hurts like bejaysus but rarely breaks bones.

As others have said, the main reason to be reasured is that he only had a bandage/dressing on rather than a cast. Which makes a laceration the most likely damage, rather than any kind of fracture. Unless the French docs made a complete balls of their initial assessment anyway...
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Mata is more important to us than Martial IMO, as is De Gea and possibly Smalling. I don't think the squad rest on the availability of Martial at all.
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No chance is Mata more important than Martial. He's barely shown up the past four or five matches.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Martial has been tepid too recently. It is just he is in his honeymoon phase with the CAF on here after his explosive start.
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Harsh but fair. There's always a marked delay between the change in the caf consensus and the reality of what is happening on the pitch. This is just as true when it comes to unpopular players hitting some form as it is when caf favourites start to experience a bit of a dip.
 
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