Anyone else worried that we might burn him out later in his career playing him this much at such a young age? I mean not everyone is a physical freak like Ronaldo. Even Rooney at age 30 seems like he's gone.
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If Aguero is WC, so does Neymar.
Neymar:
South American Footballer of the Year: 2011, 2012
FIFA Confederations Cup Dream Team 2013
FIFA World Cup Dream Team 2014
UEFA Champions League Team of the Season 2014–15
136 goals in 225 games for Santos, and 67 goals in 107 games for Barca (wiki.)
.. and so far this season has scored 17 goals in 16 games (whoscored.).
Unless of course if you don't rate South American football.
Neymar is the best forward in the world right now and is more talented than Pogba anyway.
It's weird because my opinion of Martial fluctuates every month. When he first joined United, I thought he looked more like the Atletico or Liverpool version of Fernando Torres with all the pace, eye for goal and composure. Then once he started playing more regularly, some of the Henry similarities came to light in terms of how effectively he dribbled from slightly wider areas, beating his man, good close control. Now, he's evidencing great work-rate and desire to go with all the attacking threat like Suárez. Dunno what player comparison comes up next month.
Truth be told, I'd be really realy happy with the peak version of any one of those 3 players. Torres might look a bit out of place in that company now, but his first season in the Premier League was majestic.
Not sure he has that, excuse the phrase, cuntishness that Suarez has -- I think that's half of what drives Suarez on the pitch, a bit like Costa, but obviously a few levels above. Martial just seems so laconic and laid back, but lethal when it counts. That's why I get the Henry thing.. also, the Torres comparison you mention -- the Torres who was a beast and made Vidic look a fool, that is. Not sure Martial has that long-range shooting ability Torres had though, but it remains to be seen -- guy is 19! after-all.
Can't help but compare him to other players, but none seems to really fit. What I do know, barring injury, please God, is that he is most definitely a potential future Balon d'Or winner. Has everything you'd expect of a world class player, and to have it at such a young age is remarkable. I'd honestly never heard of him before we signed him (well, had seen him play against Arsenal, but couldn't remember his name), and now he's just exploded onto the seen -- keeping Coman, hugely talented in his own right, out of the national side; and who could argue, when you see what he did last night?
I totally agree with you that we are better of playing him out wide. The way we play means our striker usually receives the ball with his back towards the goal this is not the best way to utilise someone like Martial in my mind. When playing out wide he will have much better opportunities to run at the defenders and take players on, I would even perfer him to play as the #10 over striker for the same reason.
He keeps surprising me, his balance and pace control in that dribble is perfect. Fair fecks to our scouting and especially Louis, sometimes his arrogance and
stubbornness can work against him but going all out for this kid and flipping the finger to all is probably going his best piece of business during his time here.
stubbornness can work against him but going all out for this kid and flipping the finger to all is probably going his best piece of business during his time here.
That Neymar post was odd haha
Can't believe we've got him. He's going to be a world class player. Every time I watch Martial, I expect something great.
Can't believe we've got him. He's going to be a world class player. Every time I watch Martial, I expect something great.
One of the most laughable posts I've seen in a while. Suarez hasnt been better than Neymar for 1.5 year now, same level. And Pogba? Oh dear, do you even watch him?
What?!? Neymar is already better than Suarez and Aguero in my book. As for Pogba reaching that level before him, I don't know what to say really..
Was he involved in the friendly against Germany?
Yeah, had a nice assist you might be able to find in this thread.
The guy must eat, sleep and breathe football settling down so quickly at that age. Comforting to hope so.
That assist against Germany was unreal. So glad we signed him.
Is to too early to name and shame the kneejerkers on here who derided his transfer?
Hardly daft even if you think that. Simply pointing out he's our most effective forward and with our team struggling for goals, we could do worse than play him up top at least until we replace Rooney.
Van Gaal isn't playing him on the left purely because of him doing a good job out there. He's doing it so Rooney can continue playing.
Regardless of the reason why, he's played better for United out wide than he has up top. Rooney's been a little better in his last 2 or 3 games so Martial left and Rooney central is the best use of our resources. The only time it made sense to play Martial up top was when Rooney should have been on the bench.
Nope, he's only going to get better and better
Not me. I think players that burn out early tend to be those that play with a burst of energy, and I don't see that in Martial. Maybe it's his cool attitude covering up for it, but I just don't see the intensity that might be lost later in his career whenever he's on the ball.
Would be interesting to see a poll about where people prefer to see Martial - out wide or up front.
Up top for me, without a doubt. Apart from the explosive second half against Everton where he destroyed Coleman and some nice moments against City and Palace, he's been much more effective for us as a striker. Even his goal against CSKA Moscow happened when he briefly moved to a central position to make Valencia's cross count. He has great technique, but more often than not he's too far away from goal and is often isolated. He's shown too much composure, great link up and hold up play not to use him a striker.
When played as a striker, he's constantly drifting out wide on the left anyway, so no point restricting him to a wide position. We just need a better number 10 behind him and better delivery from the wings. Despite getting some assists under his belt, his final ball and overall passing need some work, so I think we should keep him in the striker's position.
The way he won the penalty againsy WBA and his tendency to create goalscoring chances out of nothing (Arsenal, WBA games immediately come to mind) are other reasons why he should stay up front.
Buy Mane in January and we're looking good. Obviously we'll also need to sign a better #10 as well, but I guess as long as LvG is at the helm, Rooney won't lose his starting place.
Up top for me, without a doubt. Apart from the explosive second half against Everton where he destroyed Coleman and some nice moments against City and Palace, he's been much more effective for us as a striker. Even his goal against CSKA Moscow happened when he briefly moved to a central position to make Valencia's cross count. He has great technique, but more often than not he's too far away from goal and is often isolated. He's shown too much composure, great link up and hold up play not to use him a striker.
When played as a striker, he's constantly drifting out wide on the left anyway, so no point restricting him to a wide position. We just need a better number 10 behind him and better delivery from the wings. Despite getting some assists under his belt, his final ball and overall passing need some work, so I think we should keep him in the striker's position.
The way he won the penalty againsy WBA and his tendency to create goalscoring chances out of nothing (Arsenal, WBA games immediately come to mind) are other reasons why he should stay up front.
Buy Mane in January and we're looking good. Obviously we'll also need to sign a better #10 as well, but I guess as long as LvG is at the helm, Rooney won't lose his starting place.
You must be fecking joking....
feck offI just saw this, it better be a fecking joke or a mistake
oh piss off
Seriously feck off. Sick of international football.
Feck
Literally don't know how to react to this. I want to slump to the floor and karate kick the wall at the same time.
Definitely true. This international break was a fecking disaster.
Looked fine when he went off?
feck.
Shite.
He picked up a knock earlier on and was limping. But he seemed to run it off.
If its a bandage and not a plaster it might just be a cut or bruise, lets hope
Delle Alli can go eat a bag of dicks. He was roughhousing the French players all night. Its a friendly, not the World Cup final, dimwit. (Although I understand you're keen to impress).
fecking international break.
fecking international break.
FFS hopefully just a bruise or something
Please no, just please no
Or a twisted ankle? How long does that take to heal?
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