It's not humiliating to be brought off after a half in which nothing worked for him. He started him ahead of Pogba and Griezmann in a show of confidence.
Why is everyone so precious?
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It's not humiliating to be brought off after a half in which nothing worked for him. He started him ahead of Pogba and Griezmann in a show of confidence.
Why is everyone so precious?
Confident? Where do you get confidence from in my posts regarding his performance tonight? Look at my choice of words.
And 20 minutes is more than enough to show something. People pretend as if 20 minutes of playing time is nothing. It was 5 minutes, maybe even 10 I could understand it. But not when he receives 20 minutes.
His manager just dropped 100 or whatever million player to play him. I am not sure it's just the United fans.
So we just keep underperforming players on the pitch now to be nice to them because they are young? What on Earth?
Aye. France didn't have a genuine ball player in the middle of the park in the first half. The team was disjointed.
As for Martial now being crap after one bad half in the Euros, Kevin De Brunye was pony for Belgium the other night so we can add him to the scrap heap too.
After one poor half for his national team, at 20 years of age?
So you're basing your opinion on comments here?
One poor half and all hell brakes loose.
And based on things written in live tickers. Granted it's not a great source, but if it's the universal opinion that he was piss poor, there has to be some truth to it. I mean why does he, in a France team that was apparently shite overall in the first half, get taken off?
Half time subs are usually for players in danger of costing you the game. Martial should have been given another 15 IMO. It is what Fergie would have done anyway, he was always reluctant to hook a player at half time because it doesn't help a players confidence at all.
That's just silly, he's been superb in 90% of games for United, against top sides.
He had a poor 45 minutes, but he's been superb for France whenever called upon this past year and his manager thinks so highly of him he started him ahead of two superstars tonight.
Reactions during this tournament are bizarre, players sometime have poor games, big fecking deal.
Pogba is hardly a 100 million player. Just because that's Juve's demand and teams are willing to pay it doesn't mean it's his actual worth. Besides, Deschamps isn't too fond of Pogba anyways.
Maybe you should watch the game and not base your opinion on things written in live tickers.
He wasn't the worst player for France. Deschamp subbed him off yeah but lets not make a big deal out of it like those guys in live tickers.
Completely disagree, and Fergie managed a league side, it's very different in a competition like this.
And get used to it, cause Mourinho loves a HT sub, as do I. Martial is a big boy who plays for Manchester United, he should perform or risk being hooked, just as Pogba and Griezmann were the other night and then dropped.
Because they switched back to 433, the formation they are most used to. That meant Payet moved to the left and Martial sacrificed. Payet is on fire at the moment so no arguments there.
He will go for 100 million so that will make him one.
How is it different in a international competition? Albania were naturally going to tire after the effort they put in the first half, France were not under any pressure at the back. The game would open up anyway. Deschamp bottled it and got lucky in the end.
Yup, he said that if you were confident enough to start someone you should be confident enough to leave them on a bit longer after the half. The space that was there for France towards the end is where Martial would thrive.
Ah well, he should come back to Manchester reasonably well rested
He is shite, we should sell.
That doesn't mean the likes of Coman or even Giroud couldn't have been taken off. But I see your point, Deschamps' options of taking a player off were limited, hence his substitution hardly means he was the worst player on the pitch. And to be fair, they did perform better in the 2nd half in their old formation.
Because SAF was looking after a long term team and long term interests. Not the same for national managers in a tournament, that much is obvious no?
Someone needed to get hooked and show the first half wasn't good enough. I personally agreed that it should have been Martial but could easily have been another player or 2.
The whole French team had a shite first half tbh, i'm not sure why anyone would single out Martial based on that.
Him for Veratti!
Having read the comments, here is my analysis:
- Martial was brought on very late (78 min) in the last game while he should have been brought on before Coman considering the season he had + his performances with the French national team.
- Then, He was given a shock start in this game.
Anyone who has ever watched him play knows that he was trying extremely hard - because this is what happens when you're trusted to start after playing just 12 minutes in the previous game. He knew this was his chance. Albanians were defending very well in the first half and none of the French players had a good half. Payet was woeful in the first half.
So DD immediately subs Martial off which confirms Martial's fear that this was the only chance.
IMO, it's poor management from the coach and that's it for Martial in this tournament.
- Martial was brought on very late (78 min) in the last game while he should have been brought on before Coman considering the season he had + his performances with the French national team.
- Then, He was given a shock start in this game.
Anyone who has ever watched him play knows that he was trying extremely hard - because this is what happens when you're trusted to start after playing just 12 minutes in the previous game. He knew this was his chance. Albanians were defending very well in the first half and none of the French players had a good half. Payet was woeful in the first half.
So DD immediately subs Martial off which confirms Martial's fear that this was the only chance.
IMO, it's poor management from the coach and that's it for Martial in this tournament.
More likely Martial will be called upon again with 20 minutes to go in a game soon and he's more than capable of stepping up when asked.
It's not about being nice, it's about individual player management, which is fairly delicate with most youngsters. How often do players get subbed at half-time? It's basically the football equivalent of saying, "You're shit". If you give him an extra 15 minutes, he has the chance to improve and the manager still has plenty of time to change it.
Deschamps was so desperate to show Pogba and Griezmann that they hadn't done enough that he sent out the wrong side and ended up sacrificing another player to prove his point.
This entire post is precious.
Martial is a 20 year old man, not an 11 year old child, any decent player uses this to be more determined to do better next time.
I also thinking bringing someone off at HT is the football equivalent of saying, "You've had a tough half, it just hasn't worked for you, or us and we need to change something". Which is no doubt what the manager said to him,
"You're shit" would be leaving him at home or leaving him on the bench the entire tournament even when they are 1-0 down and desperate for a player like him.
Have any of you lot ever been in a football dressing room? Would you all have cried aged 20 when subbed?
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Wonder the reaction if Sterling had this performance and was subbed off HT.
The likes of Pogba & Griezmann were poor players before today and Embolo is suddenly the 'new Heskey.'
Point being, the knee-jerk is getting ridiculous.
The likes of Pogba & Griezmann were poor players before today and Embolo is suddenly the 'new Heskey.'
Point being, the knee-jerk is getting ridiculous.
Christ on a fecking bike, can't believe there are people saying he's overrated just because he had a poor half.
He should have been brought off at HT, maybe England would have been further away in the second half.
But lovely Roy didn't want to upset by and tell him "you're shit".
Kane should have been taken off for Vardy if anything. I don't see any better England player to play Sterling's position.
Logic and reason won't make you very far here
You're only as good as your last game on the caf
The difference is Martial has an excellent first season overall whereas Sterling's game looks to have stagnated. Not sure why they need to be compared.
Not that surprising to be honest, many fans have the memory of a goldfish.
This place is mental mate. Martial gets a start already by the second group game after a nice cameo in game one, that's his manager showing how much trust he has in him. And now because he brought him off after a poor half, "he's done, that's him finished for the tournament" and the manager has just basically told him "you're shit".
It's a crazy place.
Going by how it seems more and more people are judging players after one game.. sell him, he's shit.
Well we already have Ronaldo, Kane, Lewandowski, Pogba & Zlatan in the group so it's good company to keep.
You can put De Brunye and Hazard in there. Lukaku was absolutely appalling as was Origi when he came on.
I don't think he was substituted because he was super bad, the fact that Pogba came on for him and not Griezmann tells me that Deschamps was mainly going for a tactical change here and one that imo payed off. France seemed to be better in control of the game after switching back to a midfield trio of Kanté, Matuidi and Pogba.
Man this place is so mental it's just unbelievable!
Reading some of these comments one would think they're talking about an absolute donkey not the player who alomst singlehandedly carried the responsibility week in week out of an otherwise toothless and clueless attack!
One good game or a Youtbe clip is more than enough to label the player as the best thing since slice bread but one bad game or sometimes even a bad half he's garbage - Caf in a nutshell!
Reading some of these comments one would think they're talking about an absolute donkey not the player who alomst singlehandedly carried the responsibility week in week out of an otherwise toothless and clueless attack!
One good game or a Youtbe clip is more than enough to label the player as the best thing since slice bread but one bad game or sometimes even a bad half he's garbage - Caf in a nutshell!
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