Making things happen is very relevant in this team, as the majority of our players are too comfortable passing sideways and backwards keeping possession just for the sake of it, we need some players who take risks with passing, dribbling and shooting.
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He doesnt deserve to start. Nothing indicates he deserves to start ahead of Young or Mata. Even if Young and Mata arent doing anything, hes not doing anything better to say he should be starting ahead of them.
Felt sorry for him, never visibly seen a player lacking confidence to the extent I saw today.
meh
Young will start the remainder of the games. Di Maria will start the Hull game if the next two matches aren't good.
But if Di Maria comes on and is woeful with his runs, his passing and his crosses, ill even doubt that he will start the Hull match, lol. We dont watch training, but if I was picking the next team based on whats happened in our previous matches, Young and Mata start again on the wings.
They havent been great, but I dont think Di Maria has shown anything to replace either (unless its an injury)
He doesn't have to replace either. He might replace Fellaini. That way Mata might play as a midfielder instead of being shifted out wide where he currently is compensating for other players.
@Snow fair enough about that. I actually thought Di Maria should have come on for Fellaini and we should have gone to a 442 diamond with Young LB, Blind holding, Herrera and Di Maria beind Mata with Rooney/RVP up top. Would have made more sense with the players we had (and tbh, its the position Di Maria played where he got the goals / assists early in the season). For some reason that Leicester game killed LVGs thinking of it, even though WBA were never going to attack. But ive gone off point.
I will be surprised if Di Maria comes in for Fellaini as Fellaini offered more (scary to say) for LVGs style. He probably didnt give the ball away as much as Di Maria too.
I will be surprised if Di Maria comes in for Fellaini as Fellaini offered more (scary to say) for LVGs style. He probably didnt give the ball away as much as Di Maria too.
I think hes brought on in the last few minutes, and is told to lump it into box at every opportunity, or just try and make something happen for remaining minutes he has on the pitch
I doubt he plays so many wastefull balls from himself, plus not letting him start matches, and play consistently is a big negative for a player who needs matches to get some confidence, momentum going
I doubt he plays so many wastefull balls from himself, plus not letting him start matches, and play consistently is a big negative for a player who needs matches to get some confidence, momentum going
Not really. Two years ago, we had Valencia and Young as our main wingers. A lot of people wanted Di Maria especially after failing with getting Hazard and Moura. But Real Madrid weren't selling at the time.
I one willing to give him next season but it's amazing, I'm not taking the piss, every single time he has the ball, even if he is attempting a 4 or 5 yard pass, I don't back him to make it.
TBH, his downward spiral has gone so steeply that I don't believe that much in his chances for a recovery as a Manchester United player. If the PSG rumors are true and that they are willing to show Woody the money, I'm all for it since it would open the door for signing (preferably) a third player from Borussia Dortmund for this summer in Marco Reus as his replacement.
Highly doubt it but Reus to replace Di Maria? shut up and take my money!
Can only hope next season is different, cause right now it looks like we've been had.
I just don't see how he fits in going forward. He's a quality player but the wrong signing for us. Hopefully PSG are still interested.
His decision making and execution when it comes to passes and crosses is terrible, at least lately. Once in a while he does something fantastic on the pitch, but it's just not worth it. You can talk about positions and formations, but wherever he's being played there's no excuse for it. I was so excited when he signed, but I'm starting to think we should cut our losses. He's a complete liability at this moment in time.
It's hard to say. I'm not even sure anymore. It's rather if going into the last game and the 4th is secured that Di Maria will play rather if it wasn't.
Fellaini looses the ball way less. He also creates zilch. He get the ball to a team mate and keeps play going but when we need the goal he's put up top and the tactic is more relied on hope than one own's ability. That I dislike.
I just don't see how he is ever going to fit in with what LvG wants from his wide players, it's why Nani is almost certainly not going to be coming back, LvG seems to demand the ball protection and systematic attacking to such an extent that a maverick is never going to suit him.
Its just not working out here, for a variety of reasons.
First season syndrome I hope
Spains fairly easy for the top class players, lots of time on the ball to pick crosses, make a decision on run, cross etc etc
I think he'll be a lot better next year, get in the gym, get a bit of weight on him (not much) do him the world of good
Spains fairly easy for the top class players, lots of time on the ball to pick crosses, make a decision on run, cross etc etc
I think he'll be a lot better next year, get in the gym, get a bit of weight on him (not much) do him the world of good
Physically, possibly the weakest player I've ever seen play for United.
A breeze would knock him over.
A breeze would knock him over.
It's truly bizarre because he is a world class talent and we all know that, but he has looked like half the player for quite some time.
I think a lot of it has to do with his confidence, but I think whatever instructions he is getting from van Gaal/the way we play is definitely not suiting to his style of play.
I think a lot of it has to do with his confidence, but I think whatever instructions he is getting from van Gaal/the way we play is definitely not suiting to his style of play.
i think that most people remember di maria selectively, based on last season.
But before that, he had rows of absolutely dramatic displays where he eventually ended up on the bench for RM too. If there was one player that annoyed me with bad dribbles, useless ball losses and bad longshots during Mourinho's reign at RM it was Di Maria.
And then out of nowhere he went on to be amazing for the next 6 months, only to go back to dramaria the week after.
In short, hes the next level Nani. Even more unreliable, more talented, more swingy.
But before that, he had rows of absolutely dramatic displays where he eventually ended up on the bench for RM too. If there was one player that annoyed me with bad dribbles, useless ball losses and bad longshots during Mourinho's reign at RM it was Di Maria.
And then out of nowhere he went on to be amazing for the next 6 months, only to go back to dramaria the week after.
In short, hes the next level Nani. Even more unreliable, more talented, more swingy.
I think he's more compatible to the way SAF had his teams play, especially in comparison to the way LVG has you playing. He's just not suited to the stagnant style in the PL, and the fact he hasn't adjusted physically accentuates everything.
I have to admit I find this situation humorous considering all the rubbish I read in here about Ozil last season - though if he's shown anything it's that it can take some time to fully adjust to the PL for these kinds of players.
Yes you can point to the likes of Costa, Sanchez and Aguero as examples of players with big reputations coming from Spain to England and excelling from the off - but they're all very similar robust players who already had a physical edge to their game.
Ozil had obviously hit the gym during the injury lay-off and has come back into the side and clearly has been our best player during this run of form. It looks like he's put on a good 5kgs if muscle and can ride challenges/hold-off players better now.
I think ADM will need to do the same, and with a bit of an adjustment mentally he will show his true class. But the real question is how well does he fit in to LVG's slow system?
The problem is all of his running,passing and crossing is very poor atm.It doesn't really have a lot to do with tactics, he's just poor when when it comes to those fundamental things.
Though at least he tried and failed.We had some players yesterday who did nothing.
Yes hilarious, that he's the PL record signing and looks no better than Bebe. We should sell him while he still has some sort of value.I would start him against Crystal Palace.
slips on his arse, looks to the referee. Playing like the last kid picked in the playground, then shows why he was the last picked
He needs to sort himself out! he is miles better than he is showing.
No better then Bebe, really though?
Look he was crap yesterday absolute no doubts about it, it looks like his confidence has gone. He really needs a run of games starting and yesterday was a great opportunity to start that. I find it interesting that LVG has bought him seemingly without ever watching him prior as his man management of the player has been shocking in all honesty.
Feel sorry for him. He's a brilliant footballer but his confidence is completely shattered. Some of the stuff he did yesterday was laughably bad.
I'm reading this a lot. He's already had a longer run of consecutive starts than almost every other player in our team, with him getting worse over time, rather than better. I'm curious why if the same thing happened again, now, there would be a different outcome?
Who would sign him even at half price he paid?
He really was terrible yesterday. Looks totally devoid of any confidence at the moment. Needs to find his mojo back again.
Yes that's the problem and every game he plays we knock another £5m from his value!
He was awful.
During his consistent run of starts, he was arguably one of our better performers, albeit not great. However, as a team, we were really poor yet he was able to stand out among the rest, as a say he was the best (one of) of a bad bunch. The likes of Fellaini, Rooney, Young, Valencia, Smalling (whenever fit) were also consistent starters during that period, before Christmas, and have all continued improving, and were all essential components in our decent run of late. Add Mata and Herrera to those previously mentioned, and you have a core of about 7 or so players who were shown both faith and confidence by our manager, from which we reaped the rewards (the run of 6 wins has put us in pole position for a CL place).
Why not di Maria? He is our player. One which we spent £60m on. Why not afford him the same opportunity given to Young, Fellaini, Mata, Herrera and Valencia. Mata and Herrera weren't even in the starting eleven from Jan to March, yet were put straight back in against Newcastle/Spurs. The United futures of those named above were being doubted not too long ago, however, when given the chance to prove themselves, they ensured no one would ask that question again. Why is di Maria any different? Bale cost Real Madrid £100m and had a tough start to his career, yet he was afforded time and won Real the CDR and scored in the CL final.
The question you ask at the end is honestly ridiculous. Have you never seen an out of form player regain his form?
Quick glance at some Premier League numbers:
Rooney - 31 apps; 90% full games played 10% subbed off; 12 goals; 5 assists; 44 chances created; 39 key passes
Di Maria - 26 apps; 27% full games played 46% subbed off 27% subbed on; 3 goals, 10 assists; 51 chances created; 41 key passes
Young - 23 apps; 67% full games played 21% subbed off 12% subbed on; 2 goals, 3 assists; 28 chances created; 25 key passes
Mata - 30 apps; 43% full games played 36% subbed off 20% subbed on; 8 goals, 4 assists; 43 chances created; 39 key passes
Valencia - 29 apps; 69% full games played 21% subbed off 10% subbed on; 0 goals, 2 assists; 23 chances created; 21 key passes
Young and Di Maria are the ones who compete for the same spot right. Looking at the numbers alone indicates that Di Maria is simply a better creative force (no shock there, I know). Essentially, LVG wants to control the game from start to end and we are lead to believe that Young is being favoured because he is, somehow, believed to be better at doing what ADM was doing better, if you look at the numbers. Losing the ball or passing percentages isn't even an issue here as they are equally good/bad. Thus, we are giving up the ability to challenge team who sit back in favour of keeping the ball and move it around like a lethargic handball team.
So essentially this leaves a huge question mark over the purpose of the transfer of ADM and how he was to fit into a rigid system that is somewhat of an ideological mismatch. Or at least that's what's being perceived by his omission from the starting line-up. We cannot rely on just Rooney and Mata to create chances, that's too easy to deal with, especially when Rooney is forced to drop down to can't provide any sort of penetration.
Here's what I'm curious to know. Why isn't LVG utilising ADM the same way he utilise someone like Robben, on the right with the ability to cut inside? Imagine ADM getting into these positions:
Move Mata into the number 10 role (numbers suggest he would handle it well) and move Rooney up.
Rooney - 31 apps; 90% full games played 10% subbed off; 12 goals; 5 assists; 44 chances created; 39 key passes
Di Maria - 26 apps; 27% full games played 46% subbed off 27% subbed on; 3 goals, 10 assists; 51 chances created; 41 key passes
Young - 23 apps; 67% full games played 21% subbed off 12% subbed on; 2 goals, 3 assists; 28 chances created; 25 key passes
Mata - 30 apps; 43% full games played 36% subbed off 20% subbed on; 8 goals, 4 assists; 43 chances created; 39 key passes
Valencia - 29 apps; 69% full games played 21% subbed off 10% subbed on; 0 goals, 2 assists; 23 chances created; 21 key passes
Young and Di Maria are the ones who compete for the same spot right. Looking at the numbers alone indicates that Di Maria is simply a better creative force (no shock there, I know). Essentially, LVG wants to control the game from start to end and we are lead to believe that Young is being favoured because he is, somehow, believed to be better at doing what ADM was doing better, if you look at the numbers. Losing the ball or passing percentages isn't even an issue here as they are equally good/bad. Thus, we are giving up the ability to challenge team who sit back in favour of keeping the ball and move it around like a lethargic handball team.
So essentially this leaves a huge question mark over the purpose of the transfer of ADM and how he was to fit into a rigid system that is somewhat of an ideological mismatch. Or at least that's what's being perceived by his omission from the starting line-up. We cannot rely on just Rooney and Mata to create chances, that's too easy to deal with, especially when Rooney is forced to drop down to can't provide any sort of penetration.
Here's what I'm curious to know. Why isn't LVG utilising ADM the same way he utilise someone like Robben, on the right with the ability to cut inside? Imagine ADM getting into these positions:
Move Mata into the number 10 role (numbers suggest he would handle it well) and move Rooney up.
Because Robben's a great goalscorer and ADM isn't.
He need to start every game we plays from here,he tries a lot and nothing going for him in last game,imo it look like lack of game time that knocking him down.
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